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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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I could even cite chapter and verse of how
> what was said got tangled up in confusion to
> become the beliefs of the authors of the book of
> the dead and eventually the beliefs of
> Egyptologists.
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> I lay down that gauntlet.
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> Having explained my position to you, I'd now like
> an opportunity to see you elucidate your
> reasoning.
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> The floor is all yours.

No!

As I said, "Such endeavor would be wasted time though. How do you parse confusion even where its origins are right before you?".

I'm not going to get involved in the minutia of confusion even where it's painfully obvious to me. However I am willing to point out a couple of things. To the ancients everything was a function of theory which they called gods. This is exactly what modern scientists believe as well but the ancients knew their total knowledge was insignificant and we are truly "homo omnisciencis". Since reality expressed itself as this theory we confusedly understand as "gods" it simply follows logically that we'd believe the ancients thought the gods were all powerful. Since they were "named" we confusedly think they believed they were individuals rather than anthropomorphized reality. Since they were anthropomorphized they are ascribed functions consistent with animals and humans so we confusedly think they believed in walking and talking consciousnesses that determined mans' destiny. None of these things is real. Neters were natural phenomena developed by natural science and were merely a placeholder in a metaphysical language. This same confusion we have today was exactly the same as the confusion of the authors of the book of the dead from which Egyptologists borrowed to translate and interpret the Ancient Language.

My favorite example though is the "duat". This was the spraying water which resulted from the interactions of the gods. Together they produced not everything known about them, but the spraying water itself; the duat or d3.t

This was represented by the arm of nut expressed as a circle with a bubble known as an "imperishable star" inside. The hole through which the water sprayed was an arm of the "sky" and it was only imperishable styars (CO2) that drove the water up. "Duat" always meant spraying water and only spraying water in the PT and it is only used in this exact context which I used to deduce the meaning. It is obviously spraying water in context since it is "atum" standing in the eye of horus.

Eventually the spraying water died so atum was written out of the silly little rituals and dead "osiris" was inserted in his place. "Osiris" thus became lord of the duat but the only thing left of the spraying water were natural processes under the earth that no longer created columns of water. Osiris was a dead god of the dead gods in the ground.

You can trace all the confusion back to the very beginning and this will provide great insights into what the sun addled bumpkins who wrote the Bible were thinking. It will provide insights into many Bible passages such as the story of the Tower of Babel. We are the confused offspring of the tower builders and can't even see that language is still confused or that there used to be a global metaphysical language. We can see only what we expect to see so everything we see is within our knowledge base. We are truly "homo omnisciencis"; a little confused, none too smart, and wholly ignorant but this doesn't affect our beliefs.

Well... ...mebbe I can parse confusion. ;)

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 13-Jan-18 20:06 by cladking.

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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 267 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 237 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 111 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 111 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 125 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 118 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 117 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 122 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 104 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 104 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 123 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 101 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 109 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 169 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 158 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 213 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 176 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 189 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 188 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 135 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 174 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
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Re: SC deflection 170 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 132 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 133 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
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Re: SC deflection 125 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 155 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 120 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 112 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 117 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 159 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 159 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 124 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 111 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 97 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 130 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 113 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 120 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 123 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 125 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 113 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 117 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
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Sam: act 3 scene 2 125 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 118 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 123 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 120 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
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the Root of the tree 142 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 117 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 169 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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