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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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I could even cite chapter and verse of how
> what was said got tangled up in confusion to
> become the beliefs of the authors of the book of
> the dead and eventually the beliefs of
> Egyptologists.
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> I lay down that gauntlet.
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> Having explained my position to you, I'd now like
> an opportunity to see you elucidate your
> reasoning.
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> The floor is all yours.

No!

As I said, "Such endeavor would be wasted time though. How do you parse confusion even where its origins are right before you?".

I'm not going to get involved in the minutia of confusion even where it's painfully obvious to me. However I am willing to point out a couple of things. To the ancients everything was a function of theory which they called gods. This is exactly what modern scientists believe as well but the ancients knew their total knowledge was insignificant and we are truly "homo omnisciencis". Since reality expressed itself as this theory we confusedly understand as "gods" it simply follows logically that we'd believe the ancients thought the gods were all powerful. Since they were "named" we confusedly think they believed they were individuals rather than anthropomorphized reality. Since they were anthropomorphized they are ascribed functions consistent with animals and humans so we confusedly think they believed in walking and talking consciousnesses that determined mans' destiny. None of these things is real. Neters were natural phenomena developed by natural science and were merely a placeholder in a metaphysical language. This same confusion we have today was exactly the same as the confusion of the authors of the book of the dead from which Egyptologists borrowed to translate and interpret the Ancient Language.

My favorite example though is the "duat". This was the spraying water which resulted from the interactions of the gods. Together they produced not everything known about them, but the spraying water itself; the duat or d3.t

This was represented by the arm of nut expressed as a circle with a bubble known as an "imperishable star" inside. The hole through which the water sprayed was an arm of the "sky" and it was only imperishable styars (CO2) that drove the water up. "Duat" always meant spraying water and only spraying water in the PT and it is only used in this exact context which I used to deduce the meaning. It is obviously spraying water in context since it is "atum" standing in the eye of horus.

Eventually the spraying water died so atum was written out of the silly little rituals and dead "osiris" was inserted in his place. "Osiris" thus became lord of the duat but the only thing left of the spraying water were natural processes under the earth that no longer created columns of water. Osiris was a dead god of the dead gods in the ground.

You can trace all the confusion back to the very beginning and this will provide great insights into what the sun addled bumpkins who wrote the Bible were thinking. It will provide insights into many Bible passages such as the story of the Tower of Babel. We are the confused offspring of the tower builders and can't even see that language is still confused or that there used to be a global metaphysical language. We can see only what we expect to see so everything we see is within our knowledge base. We are truly "homo omnisciencis"; a little confused, none too smart, and wholly ignorant but this doesn't affect our beliefs.

Well... ...mebbe I can parse confusion. ;)

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 13-Jan-18 20:06 by cladking.

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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 441 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 384 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 226 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 238 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 309 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 257 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 262 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 286 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 260 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 247 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 224 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 262 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 126 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 147 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 159 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 124 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 130 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 190 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 182 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 241 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 200 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 212 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 221 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 161 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 198 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 172 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 152 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 184 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 188 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 154 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 152 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
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Re: SC deflection 142 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 147 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 171 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 171 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 134 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 144 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 137 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 136 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 159 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 161 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 176 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 193 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
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