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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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I could even cite chapter and verse of how
> what was said got tangled up in confusion to
> become the beliefs of the authors of the book of
> the dead and eventually the beliefs of
> Egyptologists.
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> I lay down that gauntlet.
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> Having explained my position to you, I'd now like
> an opportunity to see you elucidate your
> reasoning.
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> The floor is all yours.

No!

As I said, "Such endeavor would be wasted time though. How do you parse confusion even where its origins are right before you?".

I'm not going to get involved in the minutia of confusion even where it's painfully obvious to me. However I am willing to point out a couple of things. To the ancients everything was a function of theory which they called gods. This is exactly what modern scientists believe as well but the ancients knew their total knowledge was insignificant and we are truly "homo omnisciencis". Since reality expressed itself as this theory we confusedly understand as "gods" it simply follows logically that we'd believe the ancients thought the gods were all powerful. Since they were "named" we confusedly think they believed they were individuals rather than anthropomorphized reality. Since they were anthropomorphized they are ascribed functions consistent with animals and humans so we confusedly think they believed in walking and talking consciousnesses that determined mans' destiny. None of these things is real. Neters were natural phenomena developed by natural science and were merely a placeholder in a metaphysical language. This same confusion we have today was exactly the same as the confusion of the authors of the book of the dead from which Egyptologists borrowed to translate and interpret the Ancient Language.

My favorite example though is the "duat". This was the spraying water which resulted from the interactions of the gods. Together they produced not everything known about them, but the spraying water itself; the duat or d3.t

This was represented by the arm of nut expressed as a circle with a bubble known as an "imperishable star" inside. The hole through which the water sprayed was an arm of the "sky" and it was only imperishable styars (CO2) that drove the water up. "Duat" always meant spraying water and only spraying water in the PT and it is only used in this exact context which I used to deduce the meaning. It is obviously spraying water in context since it is "atum" standing in the eye of horus.

Eventually the spraying water died so atum was written out of the silly little rituals and dead "osiris" was inserted in his place. "Osiris" thus became lord of the duat but the only thing left of the spraying water were natural processes under the earth that no longer created columns of water. Osiris was a dead god of the dead gods in the ground.

You can trace all the confusion back to the very beginning and this will provide great insights into what the sun addled bumpkins who wrote the Bible were thinking. It will provide insights into many Bible passages such as the story of the Tower of Babel. We are the confused offspring of the tower builders and can't even see that language is still confused or that there used to be a global metaphysical language. We can see only what we expect to see so everything we see is within our knowledge base. We are truly "homo omnisciencis"; a little confused, none too smart, and wholly ignorant but this doesn't affect our beliefs.

Well... ...mebbe I can parse confusion. ;)

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 13-Jan-18 20:06 by cladking.

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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 468 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 248 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 331 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 275 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 304 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 287 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 272 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 281 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 147 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 248 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 214 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 203 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 266 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 215 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 238 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 244 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 184 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 224 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
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Re: SC deflection 177 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
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Re: SC deflection 215 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 177 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 170 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
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Re: SC deflection 169 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 190 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 147 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
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the Root of the tree 176 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 190 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
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just to be clear... 210 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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