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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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I could even cite chapter and verse of how
> what was said got tangled up in confusion to
> become the beliefs of the authors of the book of
> the dead and eventually the beliefs of
> Egyptologists.
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> I lay down that gauntlet.
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> Having explained my position to you, I'd now like
> an opportunity to see you elucidate your
> reasoning.
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> The floor is all yours.

No!

As I said, "Such endeavor would be wasted time though. How do you parse confusion even where its origins are right before you?".

I'm not going to get involved in the minutia of confusion even where it's painfully obvious to me. However I am willing to point out a couple of things. To the ancients everything was a function of theory which they called gods. This is exactly what modern scientists believe as well but the ancients knew their total knowledge was insignificant and we are truly "homo omnisciencis". Since reality expressed itself as this theory we confusedly understand as "gods" it simply follows logically that we'd believe the ancients thought the gods were all powerful. Since they were "named" we confusedly think they believed they were individuals rather than anthropomorphized reality. Since they were anthropomorphized they are ascribed functions consistent with animals and humans so we confusedly think they believed in walking and talking consciousnesses that determined mans' destiny. None of these things is real. Neters were natural phenomena developed by natural science and were merely a placeholder in a metaphysical language. This same confusion we have today was exactly the same as the confusion of the authors of the book of the dead from which Egyptologists borrowed to translate and interpret the Ancient Language.

My favorite example though is the "duat". This was the spraying water which resulted from the interactions of the gods. Together they produced not everything known about them, but the spraying water itself; the duat or d3.t

This was represented by the arm of nut expressed as a circle with a bubble known as an "imperishable star" inside. The hole through which the water sprayed was an arm of the "sky" and it was only imperishable styars (CO2) that drove the water up. "Duat" always meant spraying water and only spraying water in the PT and it is only used in this exact context which I used to deduce the meaning. It is obviously spraying water in context since it is "atum" standing in the eye of horus.

Eventually the spraying water died so atum was written out of the silly little rituals and dead "osiris" was inserted in his place. "Osiris" thus became lord of the duat but the only thing left of the spraying water were natural processes under the earth that no longer created columns of water. Osiris was a dead god of the dead gods in the ground.

You can trace all the confusion back to the very beginning and this will provide great insights into what the sun addled bumpkins who wrote the Bible were thinking. It will provide insights into many Bible passages such as the story of the Tower of Babel. We are the confused offspring of the tower builders and can't even see that language is still confused or that there used to be a global metaphysical language. We can see only what we expect to see so everything we see is within our knowledge base. We are truly "homo omnisciencis"; a little confused, none too smart, and wholly ignorant but this doesn't affect our beliefs.

Well... ...mebbe I can parse confusion. ;)

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 13-Jan-18 20:06 by cladking.

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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 502 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 448 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 307 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 306 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 305 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 294 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 268 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 358 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 366 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 311 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 298 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 329 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 356 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 286 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 265 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 332 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 305 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 319 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 294 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 235 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 235 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 277 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 269 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 280 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 224 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 312 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 343 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 238 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 249 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 316 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 245 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 275 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 297 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 216 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 258 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 232 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 234 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 243 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 248 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 209 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 200 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
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Re: SC deflection 192 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 210 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 232 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 223 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 247 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 268 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 271 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 224 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 320 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 269 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
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Sam: act 3 scene 2 190 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 255 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 244 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 279 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 285 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 205 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 220 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 248 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 240 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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