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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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I could even cite chapter and verse of how
> what was said got tangled up in confusion to
> become the beliefs of the authors of the book of
> the dead and eventually the beliefs of
> Egyptologists.
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> I lay down that gauntlet.
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> Having explained my position to you, I'd now like
> an opportunity to see you elucidate your
> reasoning.
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> The floor is all yours.

No!

As I said, "Such endeavor would be wasted time though. How do you parse confusion even where its origins are right before you?".

I'm not going to get involved in the minutia of confusion even where it's painfully obvious to me. However I am willing to point out a couple of things. To the ancients everything was a function of theory which they called gods. This is exactly what modern scientists believe as well but the ancients knew their total knowledge was insignificant and we are truly "homo omnisciencis". Since reality expressed itself as this theory we confusedly understand as "gods" it simply follows logically that we'd believe the ancients thought the gods were all powerful. Since they were "named" we confusedly think they believed they were individuals rather than anthropomorphized reality. Since they were anthropomorphized they are ascribed functions consistent with animals and humans so we confusedly think they believed in walking and talking consciousnesses that determined mans' destiny. None of these things is real. Neters were natural phenomena developed by natural science and were merely a placeholder in a metaphysical language. This same confusion we have today was exactly the same as the confusion of the authors of the book of the dead from which Egyptologists borrowed to translate and interpret the Ancient Language.

My favorite example though is the "duat". This was the spraying water which resulted from the interactions of the gods. Together they produced not everything known about them, but the spraying water itself; the duat or d3.t

This was represented by the arm of nut expressed as a circle with a bubble known as an "imperishable star" inside. The hole through which the water sprayed was an arm of the "sky" and it was only imperishable styars (CO2) that drove the water up. "Duat" always meant spraying water and only spraying water in the PT and it is only used in this exact context which I used to deduce the meaning. It is obviously spraying water in context since it is "atum" standing in the eye of horus.

Eventually the spraying water died so atum was written out of the silly little rituals and dead "osiris" was inserted in his place. "Osiris" thus became lord of the duat but the only thing left of the spraying water were natural processes under the earth that no longer created columns of water. Osiris was a dead god of the dead gods in the ground.

You can trace all the confusion back to the very beginning and this will provide great insights into what the sun addled bumpkins who wrote the Bible were thinking. It will provide insights into many Bible passages such as the story of the Tower of Babel. We are the confused offspring of the tower builders and can't even see that language is still confused or that there used to be a global metaphysical language. We can see only what we expect to see so everything we see is within our knowledge base. We are truly "homo omnisciencis"; a little confused, none too smart, and wholly ignorant but this doesn't affect our beliefs.

Well... ...mebbe I can parse confusion. ;)

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 13-Jan-18 20:06 by cladking.

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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 488 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 424 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 264 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 292 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 312 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 282 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 280 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 249 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 330 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 340 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 277 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 309 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 317 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 262 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 306 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 284 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 259 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 297 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 271 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 259 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 233 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 235 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 255 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 275 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 285 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 225 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 225 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 285 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 225 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 252 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 261 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 193 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 236 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 204 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 204 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 212 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 229 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 188 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 179 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 223 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 168 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 184 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 207 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 210 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 169 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 257 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 185 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 233 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 200 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 221 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 219 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
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