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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> You can’t read the texts. You are entirely
> dependent upon the translations, sign lists and
> dictionaries of Egyptologists. All you add is
> idio-Egyptology, stuff you’ve made up and got
> wrong.

If I were a better writer and more educated I could lay out where you have twisted the logic and why. But all I can do is observe that you are playing fast and loose with the word "read". By saying he can't read the texts you are implying that Egyptologists can. Where is your evidence for this contention? Isn't it true that almost all cooks can read a recipe and then with the ingredients make just about the same dish? Isn't it true that the word "read" means "to take the meaning of"?

You are simply implying that Egyptologists can take the meaning of the writing and even Egyptologists don't make this claim. They say they can only circumscribe the meaning because it is gobbledty gook and incantation.

You can not win this argument because no two Egyptologists agree on the meaning of anything therefore there is no evidence any Egyptologist can read the writing. Saying they can is another appeal to authority and another appeal to your "mountain of evidence" that lacks any direct evidence any great pyramid was designed or used as a tomb.

Egyptology needs to get their act together. This is the third millennium and people are not so ignorant and sheep-like any longer. We can also communicate in real time and see the gaping flaws in your evidence, methodology, and logic.

I never thought I'd come to see the day that I'd see the quacks from the 1960's and 1970's more like pioneers than opportunists but it already may be beginning. I just never realized what unevidenced hokum was being used to build paradigms.

> Here as elsewhere you try to boost it by
> relativising: it’s all just opinion, and yours
> is as good as anyone’s. No, it isn’t.

Of course his opinion isn't as good as an Egyptologist but this doesn't mean his opinion is less likely to be correct. There are many instances where the prevailing scientific opinion has proven to be wrong. Surgeons in the 1850's killed most of their patients with infections because they thought that there was no time to wash their hands.

> expensive at the price.

You can't put a price tag on knowledge and understanding.

I'd be inclined to say in the long run it is cheap at any price.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2366 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 525 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 466 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 327 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 326 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 384 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 329 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 311 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 292 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 393 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 400 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 299 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 336 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 321 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 349 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 384 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 312 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 290 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 362 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 326 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 296 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 308 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 339 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 247 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 258 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 318 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 247 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 259 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 255 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 309 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 325 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 273 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 275 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 317 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 254 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 297 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 305 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 261 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 280 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 354 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 257 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 306 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 372 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 273 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 272 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 348 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 263 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 309 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 318 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 236 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 280 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 257 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 294 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 265 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 272 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 234 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 219 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 254 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 216 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 236 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 267 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 252 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 275 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 221 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 256 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 315 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 275 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 254 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 277 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 361 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 294 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 274 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 247 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 279 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 284 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 206 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 237 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 284 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 303 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 297 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 276 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 322 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 319 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 224 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 227 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 307 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 239 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 269 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 265 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 261 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 268 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 307 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 310 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 18:01
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 266 cladking 05-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 299 Nemobutwhatiimagian 14-Jan-18 09:26
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 261 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 16:59
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 271 Open mind 07-Jan-18 08:25
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 259 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 190 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 262 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 22:19
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 277 Open mind 08-Jan-18 01:59
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 241 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
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