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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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> You've no need to worry about embarrassing me,
> Sam.
>
> You need to remind yourself which body part Isis
> never recovered and where it ended up to
> appreciate why the Nile - according to Plutarch's
> description - was regarded as the "effusion
> of Osiris", Sam.
>
> I know you're not a fan of the mythology or
> metaphor but it's hardly an oblique reference.
>
> The Nile is the liquid which brings new life, in
> agrarian contexts, relating to the annual
> inundation and as is evidenced in the
> archaeological record by the Osirian seed-beds.
> Ask Scott. He'll confirm them for you!
>
> The Nile is not "Osiris" himself but the "effusion
> of Osiris".

Thank you for your response.

I'm sure many of my responses to your objections look just as idiotic, contrived, and highly convenient.

But bottom line it here. You are merely assuming that they used words that changed meaning with context. Worse you are assuming that they necessarily had the same language as we do. You are rejecting out of hand my contention that the words had a single fixed meaning and that author intention appeared in context. If I'm right then your interpretation of the symbolism and metaphor leads you to believe the Nile and the moon are identical. It you're right then there still exists the literal meaning of the words that suggests knowledge and no means to explain how such knowledge was gained.

If I'm right there is no argument an Egyptologist can't make to prove his beliefs. No evidence is required since any of the words can just be reinterpreted and if this looks bad then they can be retranslated and then reinterpreted.

If you're right I can still show that the literal meaning of the words agrees with Scott Creighton and other alts. I can show that nut was the granary and the pyramid existed in nut. What can you do other than to show what later people and Egyptologists believe?

Egyptologists are parsing reality itself, not with experiment as is demanded by real science but by observation and interpretation. This methodology is wrong. I would go to far as to say it is evil except that few individual Egyptologists seem to have the intention to deceive. At some point they must realize this and either change their ways or admit they are not real scientists.

We can not understand reality though observation because we lack the words to be able to pass the knowledge generationally. We perceive this more as preferentially seeing what we believe but the reality is the same. You can't understand reality be analyzing myths and books of incantation. It's metaphysically contradicted. You can never understand the Egyptians using these techniques and the fact that no two Egyptologists agree on anything except they were superstitious and religious is PROOF of this. The fact that they can't agree on translations and interpretations shows just how far you can get parsing a book of magic. ...Nowhere at all. They believe they've uncovered a mountain of evidence yet can't say how or why the Great Pyramid, or any great pyramid was built. This is why every time these subjects come up no one can point to an answer supported by the evidence and modern knowledge. There is no et al to say the pyramids were tombs and the builders were stinky footed bumpkins. Rather they have parse reality by means chiefly of their conclusions rather than even observation or experiment, as is demanded by science.

These are all simple tautologies. Egyptology can no longer hide behind the cloak of science because real science doesn't obfuscate, it makes transparent.

If this sound harsh there is a simple solution. Start using proper methodology. You don't have to jettison all the et als until you learn they are all wrong about everything. Indeed, even if they are mostly right you'll learn to spot the difference between incorrect speculation and interpretation of fact.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2112 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 418 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 363 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 208 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 252 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 254 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 222 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 235 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 203 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 268 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 239 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 147 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 121 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 114 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 113 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 121 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 122 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 105 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 104 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 125 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 104 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 134 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 110 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 171 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 161 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 215 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 180 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 190 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 193 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 136 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 177 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 156 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 136 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 165 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 171 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 136 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 134 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 159 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 126 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 127 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 156 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 149 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 123 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 134 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 112 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 114 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 126 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 129 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 116 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 100 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 111 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 126 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 130 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 120 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 114 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 126 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 99 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 134 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 115 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 121 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 125 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 126 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 113 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 118 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 126 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 137 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 123 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 122 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 142 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 118 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 160 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 129 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 171 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 117 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 137 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 237 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 192 cladking 05-Jan-18 17:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 184 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 17:45
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 205 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 18:01
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 166 cladking 05-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 169 Nemobutwhatiimagian 14-Jan-18 09:26
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 138 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 137 Barbelo 06-Jan-18 19:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 157 Open mind 07-Jan-18 08:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 179 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 163 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 12:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 173 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 145 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 123 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 19:23
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 150 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:31
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 131 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 170 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 168 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 92 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 167 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 22:19
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 184 Open mind 08-Jan-18 01:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 183 cladking 08-Jan-18 02:46
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 124 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 184 Anonymous User 07-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 155 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 166 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 22:09
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 163 cladking 07-Jan-18 22:28
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 185 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 18:41
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 147 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 18:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 147 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:16
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 124 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:45
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 163 Open mind 09-Jan-18 21:56
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 170 Nemobutwhatiimagian 10-Jan-18 01:20
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 149 Nemobutwhatiimagian 10-Jan-18 16:40
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 129 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:03
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 182 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:20
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 126 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:27
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