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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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> You've no need to worry about embarrassing me,
> Sam.
>
> You need to remind yourself which body part Isis
> never recovered and where it ended up to
> appreciate why the Nile - according to Plutarch's
> description - was regarded as the "effusion
> of Osiris", Sam.
>
> I know you're not a fan of the mythology or
> metaphor but it's hardly an oblique reference.
>
> The Nile is the liquid which brings new life, in
> agrarian contexts, relating to the annual
> inundation and as is evidenced in the
> archaeological record by the Osirian seed-beds.
> Ask Scott. He'll confirm them for you!
>
> The Nile is not "Osiris" himself but the "effusion
> of Osiris".

Thank you for your response.

I'm sure many of my responses to your objections look just as idiotic, contrived, and highly convenient.

But bottom line it here. You are merely assuming that they used words that changed meaning with context. Worse you are assuming that they necessarily had the same language as we do. You are rejecting out of hand my contention that the words had a single fixed meaning and that author intention appeared in context. If I'm right then your interpretation of the symbolism and metaphor leads you to believe the Nile and the moon are identical. It you're right then there still exists the literal meaning of the words that suggests knowledge and no means to explain how such knowledge was gained.

If I'm right there is no argument an Egyptologist can't make to prove his beliefs. No evidence is required since any of the words can just be reinterpreted and if this looks bad then they can be retranslated and then reinterpreted.

If you're right I can still show that the literal meaning of the words agrees with Scott Creighton and other alts. I can show that nut was the granary and the pyramid existed in nut. What can you do other than to show what later people and Egyptologists believe?

Egyptologists are parsing reality itself, not with experiment as is demanded by real science but by observation and interpretation. This methodology is wrong. I would go to far as to say it is evil except that few individual Egyptologists seem to have the intention to deceive. At some point they must realize this and either change their ways or admit they are not real scientists.

We can not understand reality though observation because we lack the words to be able to pass the knowledge generationally. We perceive this more as preferentially seeing what we believe but the reality is the same. You can't understand reality be analyzing myths and books of incantation. It's metaphysically contradicted. You can never understand the Egyptians using these techniques and the fact that no two Egyptologists agree on anything except they were superstitious and religious is PROOF of this. The fact that they can't agree on translations and interpretations shows just how far you can get parsing a book of magic. ...Nowhere at all. They believe they've uncovered a mountain of evidence yet can't say how or why the Great Pyramid, or any great pyramid was built. This is why every time these subjects come up no one can point to an answer supported by the evidence and modern knowledge. There is no et al to say the pyramids were tombs and the builders were stinky footed bumpkins. Rather they have parse reality by means chiefly of their conclusions rather than even observation or experiment, as is demanded by science.

These are all simple tautologies. Egyptology can no longer hide behind the cloak of science because real science doesn't obfuscate, it makes transparent.

If this sound harsh there is a simple solution. Start using proper methodology. You don't have to jettison all the et als until you learn they are all wrong about everything. Indeed, even if they are mostly right you'll learn to spot the difference between incorrect speculation and interpretation of fact.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2336 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 516 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 462 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 320 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 320 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 359 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 323 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 305 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 283 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 387 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 386 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 291 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 326 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 314 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 346 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 377 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 304 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 282 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 350 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 317 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 287 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 303 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 331 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 308 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 225 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 302 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 303 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 257 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 307 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 276 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 285 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 295 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 269 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 233 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 335 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 297 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 360 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 256 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 264 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 333 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 257 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 295 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 309 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 230 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 273 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 250 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 259 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 256 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 264 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 225 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 213 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 246 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 208 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 229 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 258 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 244 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 268 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 302 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 266 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 258 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 345 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 225 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 261 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 273 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 201 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 230 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 273 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 296 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 291 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 267 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 301 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 280 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 311 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 218 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 279 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 282 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 234 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 258 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 254 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 271 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 282 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 235 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 328 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 281 cladking 05-Jan-18 17:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 307 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 17:45
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 302 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 18:01
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 253 cladking 05-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 284 Nemobutwhatiimagian 14-Jan-18 09:26
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 251 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 234 Barbelo 06-Jan-18 19:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 258 Open mind 07-Jan-18 08:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 268 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 261 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 12:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 277 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 232 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 201 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 19:23
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 250 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:31
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 230 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 259 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 254 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 180 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 253 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 22:19
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 269 Open mind 08-Jan-18 01:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 272 cladking 08-Jan-18 02:46
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 267 Anonymous User 07-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 236 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 240 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 22:09
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