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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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> You've no need to worry about embarrassing me,
> Sam.
>
> You need to remind yourself which body part Isis
> never recovered and where it ended up to
> appreciate why the Nile - according to Plutarch's
> description - was regarded as the "effusion
> of Osiris", Sam.
>
> I know you're not a fan of the mythology or
> metaphor but it's hardly an oblique reference.
>
> The Nile is the liquid which brings new life, in
> agrarian contexts, relating to the annual
> inundation and as is evidenced in the
> archaeological record by the Osirian seed-beds.
> Ask Scott. He'll confirm them for you!
>
> The Nile is not "Osiris" himself but the "effusion
> of Osiris".

Thank you for your response.

I'm sure many of my responses to your objections look just as idiotic, contrived, and highly convenient.

But bottom line it here. You are merely assuming that they used words that changed meaning with context. Worse you are assuming that they necessarily had the same language as we do. You are rejecting out of hand my contention that the words had a single fixed meaning and that author intention appeared in context. If I'm right then your interpretation of the symbolism and metaphor leads you to believe the Nile and the moon are identical. It you're right then there still exists the literal meaning of the words that suggests knowledge and no means to explain how such knowledge was gained.

If I'm right there is no argument an Egyptologist can't make to prove his beliefs. No evidence is required since any of the words can just be reinterpreted and if this looks bad then they can be retranslated and then reinterpreted.

If you're right I can still show that the literal meaning of the words agrees with Scott Creighton and other alts. I can show that nut was the granary and the pyramid existed in nut. What can you do other than to show what later people and Egyptologists believe?

Egyptologists are parsing reality itself, not with experiment as is demanded by real science but by observation and interpretation. This methodology is wrong. I would go to far as to say it is evil except that few individual Egyptologists seem to have the intention to deceive. At some point they must realize this and either change their ways or admit they are not real scientists.

We can not understand reality though observation because we lack the words to be able to pass the knowledge generationally. We perceive this more as preferentially seeing what we believe but the reality is the same. You can't understand reality be analyzing myths and books of incantation. It's metaphysically contradicted. You can never understand the Egyptians using these techniques and the fact that no two Egyptologists agree on anything except they were superstitious and religious is PROOF of this. The fact that they can't agree on translations and interpretations shows just how far you can get parsing a book of magic. ...Nowhere at all. They believe they've uncovered a mountain of evidence yet can't say how or why the Great Pyramid, or any great pyramid was built. This is why every time these subjects come up no one can point to an answer supported by the evidence and modern knowledge. There is no et al to say the pyramids were tombs and the builders were stinky footed bumpkins. Rather they have parse reality by means chiefly of their conclusions rather than even observation or experiment, as is demanded by science.

These are all simple tautologies. Egyptology can no longer hide behind the cloak of science because real science doesn't obfuscate, it makes transparent.

If this sound harsh there is a simple solution. Start using proper methodology. You don't have to jettison all the et als until you learn they are all wrong about everything. Indeed, even if they are mostly right you'll learn to spot the difference between incorrect speculation and interpretation of fact.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2218 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 480 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 418 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 256 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 285 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 305 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 274 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 277 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 243 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 325 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 335 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 282 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 272 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 303 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 309 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 256 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 295 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 279 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 233 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 292 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 262 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 263 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 248 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 276 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 220 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 219 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 279 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 219 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 248 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 255 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 188 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 231 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 196 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 195 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 207 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 224 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 183 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 173 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 218 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 162 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 179 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 201 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 204 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 225 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 274 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 233 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 225 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 164 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 185 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 224 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 248 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 180 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 195 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 214 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 225 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 285 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 234 cladking 05-Jan-18 17:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 241 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 17:45
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 257 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 18:01
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 208 cladking 05-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 231 Nemobutwhatiimagian 14-Jan-18 09:26
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 188 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 175 Barbelo 06-Jan-18 19:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 212 Open mind 07-Jan-18 08:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 215 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 206 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 12:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 220 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 181 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 159 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 19:23
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 205 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:31
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 176 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 222 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 210 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 128 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 209 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 22:19
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 230 Open mind 08-Jan-18 01:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 231 cladking 08-Jan-18 02:46
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 164 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 221 Anonymous User 07-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 192 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 202 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 22:09
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 208 cladking 07-Jan-18 22:28
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 225 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 18:41
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 195 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 18:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 186 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:16
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 169 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:45
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 213 Nemobutwhatiimagian 10-Jan-18 01:20
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 178 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:03
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 229 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:20
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