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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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> You've no need to worry about embarrassing me,
> Sam.
>
> You need to remind yourself which body part Isis
> never recovered and where it ended up to
> appreciate why the Nile - according to Plutarch's
> description - was regarded as the "effusion
> of Osiris", Sam.
>
> I know you're not a fan of the mythology or
> metaphor but it's hardly an oblique reference.
>
> The Nile is the liquid which brings new life, in
> agrarian contexts, relating to the annual
> inundation and as is evidenced in the
> archaeological record by the Osirian seed-beds.
> Ask Scott. He'll confirm them for you!
>
> The Nile is not "Osiris" himself but the "effusion
> of Osiris".

Thank you for your response.

I'm sure many of my responses to your objections look just as idiotic, contrived, and highly convenient.

But bottom line it here. You are merely assuming that they used words that changed meaning with context. Worse you are assuming that they necessarily had the same language as we do. You are rejecting out of hand my contention that the words had a single fixed meaning and that author intention appeared in context. If I'm right then your interpretation of the symbolism and metaphor leads you to believe the Nile and the moon are identical. It you're right then there still exists the literal meaning of the words that suggests knowledge and no means to explain how such knowledge was gained.

If I'm right there is no argument an Egyptologist can't make to prove his beliefs. No evidence is required since any of the words can just be reinterpreted and if this looks bad then they can be retranslated and then reinterpreted.

If you're right I can still show that the literal meaning of the words agrees with Scott Creighton and other alts. I can show that nut was the granary and the pyramid existed in nut. What can you do other than to show what later people and Egyptologists believe?

Egyptologists are parsing reality itself, not with experiment as is demanded by real science but by observation and interpretation. This methodology is wrong. I would go to far as to say it is evil except that few individual Egyptologists seem to have the intention to deceive. At some point they must realize this and either change their ways or admit they are not real scientists.

We can not understand reality though observation because we lack the words to be able to pass the knowledge generationally. We perceive this more as preferentially seeing what we believe but the reality is the same. You can't understand reality be analyzing myths and books of incantation. It's metaphysically contradicted. You can never understand the Egyptians using these techniques and the fact that no two Egyptologists agree on anything except they were superstitious and religious is PROOF of this. The fact that they can't agree on translations and interpretations shows just how far you can get parsing a book of magic. ...Nowhere at all. They believe they've uncovered a mountain of evidence yet can't say how or why the Great Pyramid, or any great pyramid was built. This is why every time these subjects come up no one can point to an answer supported by the evidence and modern knowledge. There is no et al to say the pyramids were tombs and the builders were stinky footed bumpkins. Rather they have parse reality by means chiefly of their conclusions rather than even observation or experiment, as is demanded by science.

These are all simple tautologies. Egyptology can no longer hide behind the cloak of science because real science doesn't obfuscate, it makes transparent.

If this sound harsh there is a simple solution. Start using proper methodology. You don't have to jettison all the et als until you learn they are all wrong about everything. Indeed, even if they are mostly right you'll learn to spot the difference between incorrect speculation and interpretation of fact.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2148 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 441 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 383 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 224 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 263 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 275 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 237 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 250 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 218 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 287 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 307 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 256 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 262 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 284 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 259 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 259 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 125 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 137 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 125 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 121 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 130 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 189 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 182 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 239 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 198 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 210 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 221 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 159 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 198 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 171 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 152 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 183 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 188 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 154 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 150 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 179 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 141 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 146 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 170 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 171 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 130 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 137 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 137 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 130 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 142 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 158 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 136 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 161 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 175 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 190 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 258 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 210 cladking 05-Jan-18 17:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 204 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 17:45
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 223 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 18:01
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 183 cladking 05-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 192 Nemobutwhatiimagian 14-Jan-18 09:26
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 156 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 151 Barbelo 06-Jan-18 19:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 176 Open mind 07-Jan-18 08:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 194 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 182 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 12:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 191 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 159 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 140 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 19:23
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 171 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:31
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 148 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 192 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 184 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 108 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 185 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 22:19
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 201 Open mind 08-Jan-18 01:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 205 cladking 08-Jan-18 02:46
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 142 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 202 Anonymous User 07-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 172 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 181 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 22:09
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 180 cladking 07-Jan-18 22:28
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 201 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 18:41
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 168 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 18:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 162 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:16
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 141 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:45
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 178 Open mind 09-Jan-18 21:56
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 184 Nemobutwhatiimagian 10-Jan-18 01:20
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 169 Nemobutwhatiimagian 10-Jan-18 16:40
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 148 Anonymous User 10-Jan-18 19:06
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 148 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:03
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 188 Anonymous User 13-Jan-18 15:09
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 202 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:20
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 141 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:27
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