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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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> You've no need to worry about embarrassing me,
> Sam.
>
> You need to remind yourself which body part Isis
> never recovered and where it ended up to
> appreciate why the Nile - according to Plutarch's
> description - was regarded as the "effusion
> of Osiris", Sam.
>
> I know you're not a fan of the mythology or
> metaphor but it's hardly an oblique reference.
>
> The Nile is the liquid which brings new life, in
> agrarian contexts, relating to the annual
> inundation and as is evidenced in the
> archaeological record by the Osirian seed-beds.
> Ask Scott. He'll confirm them for you!
>
> The Nile is not "Osiris" himself but the "effusion
> of Osiris".

Thank you for your response.

I'm sure many of my responses to your objections look just as idiotic, contrived, and highly convenient.

But bottom line it here. You are merely assuming that they used words that changed meaning with context. Worse you are assuming that they necessarily had the same language as we do. You are rejecting out of hand my contention that the words had a single fixed meaning and that author intention appeared in context. If I'm right then your interpretation of the symbolism and metaphor leads you to believe the Nile and the moon are identical. It you're right then there still exists the literal meaning of the words that suggests knowledge and no means to explain how such knowledge was gained.

If I'm right there is no argument an Egyptologist can't make to prove his beliefs. No evidence is required since any of the words can just be reinterpreted and if this looks bad then they can be retranslated and then reinterpreted.

If you're right I can still show that the literal meaning of the words agrees with Scott Creighton and other alts. I can show that nut was the granary and the pyramid existed in nut. What can you do other than to show what later people and Egyptologists believe?

Egyptologists are parsing reality itself, not with experiment as is demanded by real science but by observation and interpretation. This methodology is wrong. I would go to far as to say it is evil except that few individual Egyptologists seem to have the intention to deceive. At some point they must realize this and either change their ways or admit they are not real scientists.

We can not understand reality though observation because we lack the words to be able to pass the knowledge generationally. We perceive this more as preferentially seeing what we believe but the reality is the same. You can't understand reality be analyzing myths and books of incantation. It's metaphysically contradicted. You can never understand the Egyptians using these techniques and the fact that no two Egyptologists agree on anything except they were superstitious and religious is PROOF of this. The fact that they can't agree on translations and interpretations shows just how far you can get parsing a book of magic. ...Nowhere at all. They believe they've uncovered a mountain of evidence yet can't say how or why the Great Pyramid, or any great pyramid was built. This is why every time these subjects come up no one can point to an answer supported by the evidence and modern knowledge. There is no et al to say the pyramids were tombs and the builders were stinky footed bumpkins. Rather they have parse reality by means chiefly of their conclusions rather than even observation or experiment, as is demanded by science.

These are all simple tautologies. Egyptology can no longer hide behind the cloak of science because real science doesn't obfuscate, it makes transparent.

If this sound harsh there is a simple solution. Start using proper methodology. You don't have to jettison all the et als until you learn they are all wrong about everything. Indeed, even if they are mostly right you'll learn to spot the difference between incorrect speculation and interpretation of fact.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2192 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 467 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 410 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 248 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 278 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 297 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 263 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 272 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 238 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 312 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 331 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 275 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 262 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 303 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 221 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 285 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 247 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 281 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 137 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 159 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 221 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 247 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 267 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 213 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 202 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 265 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 215 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 238 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 244 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 183 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 223 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 190 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 173 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 199 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 215 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 176 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 169 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 210 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 155 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 168 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 190 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 196 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 147 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 262 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 159 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 180 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 159 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 244 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 224 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 233 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 176 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 147 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 189 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 210 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 280 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 228 cladking 05-Jan-18 17:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 232 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 17:45
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 240 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 18:01
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 203 cladking 05-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 216 Nemobutwhatiimagian 14-Jan-18 09:26
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 177 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 169 Barbelo 06-Jan-18 19:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 195 Open mind 07-Jan-18 08:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 211 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 203 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 12:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 211 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 174 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 156 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 19:23
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 198 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:31
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 171 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 215 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 204 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 122 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 205 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 22:19
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 224 Open mind 08-Jan-18 01:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 225 cladking 08-Jan-18 02:46
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 158 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 218 Anonymous User 07-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 187 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 197 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 22:09
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 198 cladking 07-Jan-18 22:28
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 220 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 18:41
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 185 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 18:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 179 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:16
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 157 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:45
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 207 Nemobutwhatiimagian 10-Jan-18 01:20
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 170 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:03
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 220 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:20
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 163 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:27
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