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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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> You've no need to worry about embarrassing me,
> Sam.
>
> You need to remind yourself which body part Isis
> never recovered and where it ended up to
> appreciate why the Nile - according to Plutarch's
> description - was regarded as the "effusion
> of Osiris", Sam.
>
> I know you're not a fan of the mythology or
> metaphor but it's hardly an oblique reference.
>
> The Nile is the liquid which brings new life, in
> agrarian contexts, relating to the annual
> inundation and as is evidenced in the
> archaeological record by the Osirian seed-beds.
> Ask Scott. He'll confirm them for you!
>
> The Nile is not "Osiris" himself but the "effusion
> of Osiris".

Thank you for your response.

I'm sure many of my responses to your objections look just as idiotic, contrived, and highly convenient.

But bottom line it here. You are merely assuming that they used words that changed meaning with context. Worse you are assuming that they necessarily had the same language as we do. You are rejecting out of hand my contention that the words had a single fixed meaning and that author intention appeared in context. If I'm right then your interpretation of the symbolism and metaphor leads you to believe the Nile and the moon are identical. It you're right then there still exists the literal meaning of the words that suggests knowledge and no means to explain how such knowledge was gained.

If I'm right there is no argument an Egyptologist can't make to prove his beliefs. No evidence is required since any of the words can just be reinterpreted and if this looks bad then they can be retranslated and then reinterpreted.

If you're right I can still show that the literal meaning of the words agrees with Scott Creighton and other alts. I can show that nut was the granary and the pyramid existed in nut. What can you do other than to show what later people and Egyptologists believe?

Egyptologists are parsing reality itself, not with experiment as is demanded by real science but by observation and interpretation. This methodology is wrong. I would go to far as to say it is evil except that few individual Egyptologists seem to have the intention to deceive. At some point they must realize this and either change their ways or admit they are not real scientists.

We can not understand reality though observation because we lack the words to be able to pass the knowledge generationally. We perceive this more as preferentially seeing what we believe but the reality is the same. You can't understand reality be analyzing myths and books of incantation. It's metaphysically contradicted. You can never understand the Egyptians using these techniques and the fact that no two Egyptologists agree on anything except they were superstitious and religious is PROOF of this. The fact that they can't agree on translations and interpretations shows just how far you can get parsing a book of magic. ...Nowhere at all. They believe they've uncovered a mountain of evidence yet can't say how or why the Great Pyramid, or any great pyramid was built. This is why every time these subjects come up no one can point to an answer supported by the evidence and modern knowledge. There is no et al to say the pyramids were tombs and the builders were stinky footed bumpkins. Rather they have parse reality by means chiefly of their conclusions rather than even observation or experiment, as is demanded by science.

These are all simple tautologies. Egyptology can no longer hide behind the cloak of science because real science doesn't obfuscate, it makes transparent.

If this sound harsh there is a simple solution. Start using proper methodology. You don't have to jettison all the et als until you learn they are all wrong about everything. Indeed, even if they are mostly right you'll learn to spot the difference between incorrect speculation and interpretation of fact.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2558 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 628 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 550 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 422 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 415 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 483 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 431 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 403 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 396 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 472 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 491 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 381 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 430 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 435 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 438 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 480 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 393 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 390 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 507 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 412 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 382 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 392 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 318 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 439 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 344 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 350 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 318 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 323 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 331 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 312 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 348 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 401 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 326 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 334 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 346 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 353 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 384 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 329 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 294 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 353 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 304 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 422 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 364 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 385 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 437 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 350 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 300 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 329 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 293 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 306 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 315 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 339 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 389 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 403 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 409 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 279 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 348 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 378 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 327 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 316 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 464 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 344 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 402 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 334 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 497 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 370 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 364 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 546 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 351 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 401 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 411 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 323 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 403 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 353 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 394 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 361 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 365 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 323 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 303 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 343 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 297 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 329 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 362 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 355 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 350 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 360 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 341 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 356 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 284 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 318 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 382 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 338 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 335 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 409 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 410 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 334 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 343 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 301 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 306 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 363 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 462 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 334 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 308 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 304 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 314 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 309 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 292 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 281 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 298 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 328 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 333 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 304 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 307 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 368 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 384 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 319 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 297 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 356 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 321 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 332 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 310 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 367 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 381 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 356 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 280 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 325 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 373 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 343 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 389 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 378 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 374 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 343 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 435 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 484 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 397 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 320 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 306 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 300 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 327 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 501 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 305 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 434 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 311 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 314 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 348 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 310 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 348 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 345 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 336 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 361 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 279 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 320 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 368 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 412 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 347 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 332 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 419 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 372 cladking 05-Jan-18 17:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 387 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 17:45
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 393 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 18:01
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 346 cladking 05-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 395 Nemobutwhatiimagian 14-Jan-18 09:26
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 358 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 312 Barbelo 06-Jan-18 19:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 357 Open mind 07-Jan-18 08:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 357 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 364 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 12:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 375 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 328 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 321 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 19:23
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 338 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:31
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 353 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 359 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 325 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 279 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 349 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 22:19
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 399 Open mind 08-Jan-18 01:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 362 cladking 08-Jan-18 02:46
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 282 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 350 Anonymous User 07-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 314 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 320 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 22:09
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 333 cladking 07-Jan-18 22:28
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 372 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 18:41
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 335 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 18:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 319 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:16
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 304 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:45
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 357 Nemobutwhatiimagian 10-Jan-18 01:20
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 325 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:03
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 362 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:20
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 293 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:27
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