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eyeofhorus33 Wrote:
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> You've no need to worry about embarrassing me,
> Sam.
>
> You need to remind yourself which body part Isis
> never recovered and where it ended up to
> appreciate why the Nile - according to Plutarch's
> description - was regarded as the "effusion
> of Osiris", Sam.
>
> I know you're not a fan of the mythology or
> metaphor but it's hardly an oblique reference.
>
> The Nile is the liquid which brings new life, in
> agrarian contexts, relating to the annual
> inundation and as is evidenced in the
> archaeological record by the Osirian seed-beds.
> Ask Scott. He'll confirm them for you!
>
> The Nile is not "Osiris" himself but the "effusion
> of Osiris".

Thank you for your response.

I'm sure many of my responses to your objections look just as idiotic, contrived, and highly convenient.

But bottom line it here. You are merely assuming that they used words that changed meaning with context. Worse you are assuming that they necessarily had the same language as we do. You are rejecting out of hand my contention that the words had a single fixed meaning and that author intention appeared in context. If I'm right then your interpretation of the symbolism and metaphor leads you to believe the Nile and the moon are identical. It you're right then there still exists the literal meaning of the words that suggests knowledge and no means to explain how such knowledge was gained.

If I'm right there is no argument an Egyptologist can't make to prove his beliefs. No evidence is required since any of the words can just be reinterpreted and if this looks bad then they can be retranslated and then reinterpreted.

If you're right I can still show that the literal meaning of the words agrees with Scott Creighton and other alts. I can show that nut was the granary and the pyramid existed in nut. What can you do other than to show what later people and Egyptologists believe?

Egyptologists are parsing reality itself, not with experiment as is demanded by real science but by observation and interpretation. This methodology is wrong. I would go to far as to say it is evil except that few individual Egyptologists seem to have the intention to deceive. At some point they must realize this and either change their ways or admit they are not real scientists.

We can not understand reality though observation because we lack the words to be able to pass the knowledge generationally. We perceive this more as preferentially seeing what we believe but the reality is the same. You can't understand reality be analyzing myths and books of incantation. It's metaphysically contradicted. You can never understand the Egyptians using these techniques and the fact that no two Egyptologists agree on anything except they were superstitious and religious is PROOF of this. The fact that they can't agree on translations and interpretations shows just how far you can get parsing a book of magic. ...Nowhere at all. They believe they've uncovered a mountain of evidence yet can't say how or why the Great Pyramid, or any great pyramid was built. This is why every time these subjects come up no one can point to an answer supported by the evidence and modern knowledge. There is no et al to say the pyramids were tombs and the builders were stinky footed bumpkins. Rather they have parse reality by means chiefly of their conclusions rather than even observation or experiment, as is demanded by science.

These are all simple tautologies. Egyptology can no longer hide behind the cloak of science because real science doesn't obfuscate, it makes transparent.

If this sound harsh there is a simple solution. Start using proper methodology. You don't have to jettison all the et als until you learn they are all wrong about everything. Indeed, even if they are mostly right you'll learn to spot the difference between incorrect speculation and interpretation of fact.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2302 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 499 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 445 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 303 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 304 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 337 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 301 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 291 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 266 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 353 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 360 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 274 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 305 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 294 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 327 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 350 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 258 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 329 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 301 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 285 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 314 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 225 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 290 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 277 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 277 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 258 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 307 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 276 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 337 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 236 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 241 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 307 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 241 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 270 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 291 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 212 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 254 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 230 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 229 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 239 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 246 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 206 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 197 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 231 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 189 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 205 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 226 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 218 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 247 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 265 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 235 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 314 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 265 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 259 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 248 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 186 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 209 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 273 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 274 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 261 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 279 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 202 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 257 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 215 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 236 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 256 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 308 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 260 cladking 05-Jan-18 17:32
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 280 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 18:01
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 232 cladking 05-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 258 Nemobutwhatiimagian 14-Jan-18 09:26
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 218 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 210 Barbelo 06-Jan-18 19:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 238 Open mind 07-Jan-18 08:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 238 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 242 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 12:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 255 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 16:32
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 236 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 159 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 232 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 22:19
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 254 Open mind 08-Jan-18 01:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 252 cladking 08-Jan-18 02:46
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 246 Anonymous User 07-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 215 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 224 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 22:09
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