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Martin Stower Wrote:
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> As I said, the final nail in the coffin of your
> bid for credibility. If you can’t see through
> Creighton’s con-job, then you simply aren’t up
> to the job.

I always try to take people, including writers, at face value.

I believe people always make sense in terms of their premises but obviously we each know which side our bread is buttered on. This means that it can be difficult top determine premises at some times. Hence I take them at face value.

A great deal of what we believe is nonsense, improbable, unevidenced, or illogical. This is the nature of the beast. It's not my place to point out every instance that shows what appears to be illogical and I don't do it except where it runs counter to my theory and involves the Great Pyramid or its builders. Of course I don't believe Scott Creighton is right in every detail, nobody can be correct in every detail. But my statement stands, I believe the reality is that there is better chance of these being seed vaults than tombs. This hardly means I support every argument and every conclusion reached by the author. Generally speaking I don't think his methodology is any worse than Egyptology. I don't hang on his every word but I certainly enjoy reading his thinking. As a rule I'm seeking ideas. I'm looking for new thoughts and new ways to see evidence. I'm looking at the various evidence people bring to the table.

People have a lot of different ideas. In subjects in which I've put little thought I want state of the art. In subjects I've studied I want facts, logic, and new ides. This makes his posts quite interesting and I believe it's unfair to simply assume anyone would invent ideas just to fool people. People disagree with one another for sound reasons and because we often don't understand each other.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2166 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 455 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 397 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 235 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 269 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 288 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 250 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 260 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 227 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 299 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 318 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 267 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 254 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 272 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 295 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 272 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 257 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 159 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 134 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 134 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 202 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 193 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 249 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 206 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 226 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 231 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 170 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 212 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 183 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 163 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 193 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 202 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 165 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 159 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 193 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 149 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 155 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 180 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 182 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 248 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 126 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 147 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 153 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 171 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 168 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 181 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 202 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 266 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 219 cladking 05-Jan-18 17:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 215 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 17:45
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 231 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 18:01
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 194 cladking 05-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 207 Nemobutwhatiimagian 14-Jan-18 09:26
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 166 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 163 Barbelo 06-Jan-18 19:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 183 Open mind 07-Jan-18 08:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 200 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 193 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 12:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 200 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 168 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 149 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 19:23
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 180 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:31
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 161 Open mind 07-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 204 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 193 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 116 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 194 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 22:19
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 213 Open mind 08-Jan-18 01:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 214 cladking 08-Jan-18 02:46
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 152 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 209 Anonymous User 07-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 178 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 189 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 22:09
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 189 cladking 07-Jan-18 22:28
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 207 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 18:41
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 177 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 18:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 169 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:16
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 146 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 21:45
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 185 Open mind 09-Jan-18 21:56
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 194 Nemobutwhatiimagian 10-Jan-18 01:20
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 178 Nemobutwhatiimagian 10-Jan-18 16:40
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 178 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 189 Anonymous User 10-Jan-18 17:20
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 194 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 127 Open mind 10-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 123 Anonymous User 10-Jan-18 18:22
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 167 Open mind 10-Jan-18 18:48
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 159 Anonymous User 10-Jan-18 19:06
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 199 Open mind 10-Jan-18 19:27
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 157 Anonymous User 10-Jan-18 19:48
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 155 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:03
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 195 Anonymous User 13-Jan-18 15:09
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 210 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:20
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 198 Open mind 10-Jan-18 21:33
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 158 Nemobutwhatiimagian 10-Jan-18 23:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 225 Open mind 11-Jan-18 03:57
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 134 M. J. Thomas 11-Jan-18 19:35
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 216 Nemobutwhatiimagian 11-Jan-18 01:31
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 215 M. J. Thomas 11-Jan-18 19:48
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 198 cladking 11-Jan-18 01:41
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 181 Open mind 11-Jan-18 02:46
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