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Scott Creighton Wrote:
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Your willful misrepresentation of Belzoni, among other things, has been well documented here already.

> Oh and you forgot
> this post.

Speaking of which, according to one of the so-called "FACTS" you list in your link:
"2) According to Belzoni, this stone box was once 'filled' with a "great quantity of earth and stones" (and some fragments of bull bones). FACT."

Described after more careful inspection the next day as "rubbish". FACT. Let's keep in mind at this point that Scott was not noting stone was also found until after I took him to task on it.

And now the stone, and rubbish, are once again gone replaced once again by a tidy "earth-filled stone box". According to Scott, from just this thread alone:
"And in the case of G2 the stone box there was found by Belzoni in 1818 to contain a great quantity of earth and some bull bones."

What happened to the great quantity of stone found as well? All characterized as "rubbish" upon actual inspection of its contents the next day.

Why would one omit such facts?

"An earth-filled stone box with some bull bones is strongly indicative of a chthonic ritual desiring the rebirth of the earth (the kingdom). The bull bones symbolised the fecundity of the earth. And, as I have said above, this chthonic ritual was practiced by later dynasties using their own, smaller replica earth-filled boxes which they buried below a large rock."

Oh, I see.

Repeated as fact again:
"The earth-filled stone box found by Belzoni in G2 in 1818 is a rather fine example. THAT is what you call EVIDENCE."

And again:
"I have presented to you physical evidence which explains the purpose of the earth-filled stone container found by Belzoni in G2."

And again:
"No. An earth-filled anonymous stone box also containing framents of bull bones. The earth symbolising the earth/kingdom, the bull bones symbolising the fecundity of the earth. Placed therein as part of a sacred chthonic ritual. I didn't "invent" anything. The EVIDENCE was found and reported by Belzoni. Alas, however, Belzoni didn't quite understand the implication of what he had discovered. Had he known about the later miniature replicas of this earth-filled box then I am certain he would not have been so quick to declare what he had found was a king's sarcophagus. It wasn't and isn't."

And again:
" Except I have a piece of evidence--an earth-filled box--strongly indicating a chthonic function and rebirth (of the earth) ritual."

And again:
"Sure. A completely anonymous, earth-filled stone box within a pyramid has no correlation whatsoever with smaller, anonymous earth-filled boxes placed under a large rock?"

Followed by:
"No. Go read for yourself what Belzoni discovered in G2. That has nothing to do with my imagination however much you wish to make it."

And when we do, Belzoni refers to the sarcophagus as containing a great quantity of both earth and stone, of which is the greater quantity we do not know, where upon more careful examination the whole is described as "rubbish" i.e. trash.

More:
"It doesn't. A stone, earth-filled box is NOT a sarcophagus however much you try to insist it is."

And:
"An earth-filled stone box (with fragments of bull bones) might be "rubbish" to you and Belzoni but I am sure they were absolutely vital to the ancients who placed them there.".

Wow.

Where do you note exactly anywhere that this "stone box" being "filled with earth [like an Osiris bed]" is anything but your "interpretation" Scott?

Ironically Scott later says to Charly:
"You're right. I don't get why soemone [sic] keeps repeating the same thing over and over and think that by mere constant repetition will somehow make it true. I'm sure I'm not alone in this."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08-Jan-18 22:08 by Thanos5150.

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just to be clear... 223 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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