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charly Wrote:
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> Scott Creighton Wrote:
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> > I am sure you understand the point well enough.
> > While some churches, chapels, abbeys and so on
> may
> > have crypts for the deceased, these buidings
> are
> > conceived and built primarily as places
> of
> > religious worship and various other religious
> > ceremonies, baptisms, weddings, funerals and so
> > on. These buildings are not conceived for the
> > primary function of burial.
>
> A while the pyramid was conceived and built as the
> tomb for the king,

You keep repeating this as if saying it over and over will make it true. For it to be accepted as true you will need EVIDENCE. I have presented to you physical evidence which explains the purpose of the earth-filled stone container found by Belzoni in G2. I have shown how this chthonic ritual was carried on by later dynasties. In short, I have shown you that the stone box in G2 (and by extension, all other pyramids with an anonymous stone box) was never a QRSW (ie. a sarcpphagus for the burial of a person such as we find in the QRSW of mastabas).


various other parts of the
> pyramid complex were used for the numerous aspects
> of the funeray cult.
>

Just because your books speak of a "funerary cult" does not make these temples funerary structures. These temples abutting the pyramids were, imo, temples of life of a "rebirth cult" (of the earth/kingdom). Just like the later dynasties would build sun temples in which to recite prayers, spells and incantations to bring about the rebirth of the sun each day, so these 'earth temples' with prayers and incantations said each day to bring about the desired rebirth of the earth/kingdom (after the deluge).

> > With the pyramid as an instrument not of death
> but
> > of life and rebirth (for the earth/kingdom),
> why
> > wouldn't high-ranking people of that
> time
> > not want to be buried close to such an
> > edifice?
> >
> > SC
>
> The pyramid was not only the tomb of the king but
> also a resurection machine (rebirth),

And THAT is where I believe Egyptology has gone awry. They were, imo, 'ressurection machines' to bring about the rebirth of the kingdom - that is what the Coptic-Egyptian tradition informs us and is what the evidence points to. This is not to say, however, that in later dynasties when the pyramid was regarded an 'instrument of rebirth' this concept would be appropriated for the king himself, thus all the confusion we have today. But they were FIRST the rebirth instruments for the kingdom--16 (completed) pyramids that would, in time, come to be seen as the body of Osiris which had been cut into 16 pieces and scattered across the land. This is what the Pyramid Texts say i.e. "the pyramid is Osiris... the construction [of the pyramid] is Osiris." The Ka of Osiris is within the pyramid (NOT the Osiris N. king's actual body). The pyramid as the 'body of Osiris' would essentially serve as the Ka Double for kings of this period.

high-ranking
> people wanted to be buried close to the most
> important one.
>
No. They would want to be close to a structure they knew to be an instrument of rebirth (of the kingdom). If the pyramid could bring about the rebirth of the kingdom, it could surely bring about their own rebirth. This is why an Osirian rebirth is a fully corporeal event in the living realm and not regarded as a metaphysical resurrection in the heavenly realm. It is a corporeal rebirth because the rebirth or 'reawakening' of the earth was a fully corporeal event.

> If the pyramids of the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th dyn
> weren't the tombs of the kings, where are their
> tombs? Still hidden? What are the odds that not a
> single one of those "hidden" tombs has been found?

Many early dynasty mastaba tombs of AE kings were raided numerous times. I suspect some of those kings may well have been re-located in the Hall of the Ancestors. But one would have thought that the visibility of mastaba tombs would have taught these early kings that underground burial in an unmarked tomb was the safest way to ensure an uniterrupted afterlife (certainly NOT an even more highly visible pyramid). The underground tomb of Khufu's mother at Giza was discovered only in the early 20th century after a freak accident. I suspect there may be other underground burials to be found.

SC



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07-Jan-18 15:15 by Scott Creighton.

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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 353 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 318 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 296 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 367 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 333 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 299 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 346 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 326 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 254 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 262 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 314 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 331 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 280 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 285 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 323 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 257 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 294 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 306 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 315 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 263 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 285 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 363 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 259 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 313 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
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SC deflection 287 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 283 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 358 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 269 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 315 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 291 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 301 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
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the Root of the tree 238 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
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just to be clear... 268 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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