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charly Wrote:
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> Scott Creighton Wrote:
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> > I am sure you understand the point well enough.
> > While some churches, chapels, abbeys and so on
> may
> > have crypts for the deceased, these buidings
> are
> > conceived and built primarily as places
> of
> > religious worship and various other religious
> > ceremonies, baptisms, weddings, funerals and so
> > on. These buildings are not conceived for the
> > primary function of burial.
>
> A while the pyramid was conceived and built as the
> tomb for the king,

You keep repeating this as if saying it over and over will make it true. For it to be accepted as true you will need EVIDENCE. I have presented to you physical evidence which explains the purpose of the earth-filled stone container found by Belzoni in G2. I have shown how this chthonic ritual was carried on by later dynasties. In short, I have shown you that the stone box in G2 (and by extension, all other pyramids with an anonymous stone box) was never a QRSW (ie. a sarcpphagus for the burial of a person such as we find in the QRSW of mastabas).


various other parts of the
> pyramid complex were used for the numerous aspects
> of the funeray cult.
>

Just because your books speak of a "funerary cult" does not make these temples funerary structures. These temples abutting the pyramids were, imo, temples of life of a "rebirth cult" (of the earth/kingdom). Just like the later dynasties would build sun temples in which to recite prayers, spells and incantations to bring about the rebirth of the sun each day, so these 'earth temples' with prayers and incantations said each day to bring about the desired rebirth of the earth/kingdom (after the deluge).

> > With the pyramid as an instrument not of death
> but
> > of life and rebirth (for the earth/kingdom),
> why
> > wouldn't high-ranking people of that
> time
> > not want to be buried close to such an
> > edifice?
> >
> > SC
>
> The pyramid was not only the tomb of the king but
> also a resurection machine (rebirth),

And THAT is where I believe Egyptology has gone awry. They were, imo, 'ressurection machines' to bring about the rebirth of the kingdom - that is what the Coptic-Egyptian tradition informs us and is what the evidence points to. This is not to say, however, that in later dynasties when the pyramid was regarded an 'instrument of rebirth' this concept would be appropriated for the king himself, thus all the confusion we have today. But they were FIRST the rebirth instruments for the kingdom--16 (completed) pyramids that would, in time, come to be seen as the body of Osiris which had been cut into 16 pieces and scattered across the land. This is what the Pyramid Texts say i.e. "the pyramid is Osiris... the construction [of the pyramid] is Osiris." The Ka of Osiris is within the pyramid (NOT the Osiris N. king's actual body). The pyramid as the 'body of Osiris' would essentially serve as the Ka Double for kings of this period.

high-ranking
> people wanted to be buried close to the most
> important one.
>
No. They would want to be close to a structure they knew to be an instrument of rebirth (of the kingdom). If the pyramid could bring about the rebirth of the kingdom, it could surely bring about their own rebirth. This is why an Osirian rebirth is a fully corporeal event in the living realm and not regarded as a metaphysical resurrection in the heavenly realm. It is a corporeal rebirth because the rebirth or 'reawakening' of the earth was a fully corporeal event.

> If the pyramids of the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th dyn
> weren't the tombs of the kings, where are their
> tombs? Still hidden? What are the odds that not a
> single one of those "hidden" tombs has been found?

Many early dynasty mastaba tombs of AE kings were raided numerous times. I suspect some of those kings may well have been re-located in the Hall of the Ancestors. But one would have thought that the visibility of mastaba tombs would have taught these early kings that underground burial in an unmarked tomb was the safest way to ensure an uniterrupted afterlife (certainly NOT an even more highly visible pyramid). The underground tomb of Khufu's mother at Giza was discovered only in the early 20th century after a freak accident. I suspect there may be other underground burials to be found.

SC



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07-Jan-18 15:15 by Scott Creighton.

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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 502 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 447 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 306 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 306 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 358 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 366 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 310 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 329 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 356 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 286 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 265 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 332 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 305 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 270 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 319 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 221 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 294 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 235 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 235 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 276 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 268 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 280 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 224 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 312 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 342 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 238 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 249 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 315 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 245 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 275 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 296 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 216 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 258 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 232 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 234 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
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Re: SC deflection 248 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 209 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 200 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
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Re: SC deflection 192 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 210 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 232 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 268 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 271 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 269 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
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Sam: act 3 scene 2 190 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 254 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
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the Root of the tree 205 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
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Rubbish! 220 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
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just to be clear... 240 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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