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charly Wrote:
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> Scott Creighton Wrote:
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> > I am sure you understand the point well enough.
> > While some churches, chapels, abbeys and so on
> may
> > have crypts for the deceased, these buidings
> are
> > conceived and built primarily as places
> of
> > religious worship and various other religious
> > ceremonies, baptisms, weddings, funerals and so
> > on. These buildings are not conceived for the
> > primary function of burial.
>
> A while the pyramid was conceived and built as the
> tomb for the king,

You keep repeating this as if saying it over and over will make it true. For it to be accepted as true you will need EVIDENCE. I have presented to you physical evidence which explains the purpose of the earth-filled stone container found by Belzoni in G2. I have shown how this chthonic ritual was carried on by later dynasties. In short, I have shown you that the stone box in G2 (and by extension, all other pyramids with an anonymous stone box) was never a QRSW (ie. a sarcpphagus for the burial of a person such as we find in the QRSW of mastabas).


various other parts of the
> pyramid complex were used for the numerous aspects
> of the funeray cult.
>

Just because your books speak of a "funerary cult" does not make these temples funerary structures. These temples abutting the pyramids were, imo, temples of life of a "rebirth cult" (of the earth/kingdom). Just like the later dynasties would build sun temples in which to recite prayers, spells and incantations to bring about the rebirth of the sun each day, so these 'earth temples' with prayers and incantations said each day to bring about the desired rebirth of the earth/kingdom (after the deluge).

> > With the pyramid as an instrument not of death
> but
> > of life and rebirth (for the earth/kingdom),
> why
> > wouldn't high-ranking people of that
> time
> > not want to be buried close to such an
> > edifice?
> >
> > SC
>
> The pyramid was not only the tomb of the king but
> also a resurection machine (rebirth),

And THAT is where I believe Egyptology has gone awry. They were, imo, 'ressurection machines' to bring about the rebirth of the kingdom - that is what the Coptic-Egyptian tradition informs us and is what the evidence points to. This is not to say, however, that in later dynasties when the pyramid was regarded an 'instrument of rebirth' this concept would be appropriated for the king himself, thus all the confusion we have today. But they were FIRST the rebirth instruments for the kingdom--16 (completed) pyramids that would, in time, come to be seen as the body of Osiris which had been cut into 16 pieces and scattered across the land. This is what the Pyramid Texts say i.e. "the pyramid is Osiris... the construction [of the pyramid] is Osiris." The Ka of Osiris is within the pyramid (NOT the Osiris N. king's actual body). The pyramid as the 'body of Osiris' would essentially serve as the Ka Double for kings of this period.

high-ranking
> people wanted to be buried close to the most
> important one.
>
No. They would want to be close to a structure they knew to be an instrument of rebirth (of the kingdom). If the pyramid could bring about the rebirth of the kingdom, it could surely bring about their own rebirth. This is why an Osirian rebirth is a fully corporeal event in the living realm and not regarded as a metaphysical resurrection in the heavenly realm. It is a corporeal rebirth because the rebirth or 'reawakening' of the earth was a fully corporeal event.

> If the pyramids of the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th dyn
> weren't the tombs of the kings, where are their
> tombs? Still hidden? What are the odds that not a
> single one of those "hidden" tombs has been found?

Many early dynasty mastaba tombs of AE kings were raided numerous times. I suspect some of those kings may well have been re-located in the Hall of the Ancestors. But one would have thought that the visibility of mastaba tombs would have taught these early kings that underground burial in an unmarked tomb was the safest way to ensure an uniterrupted afterlife (certainly NOT an even more highly visible pyramid). The underground tomb of Khufu's mother at Giza was discovered only in the early 20th century after a freak accident. I suspect there may be other underground burials to be found.

SC



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07-Jan-18 15:15 by Scott Creighton.

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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 415 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 358 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 205 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 248 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 269 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 286 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 266 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 235 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 134 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 111 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 111 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 125 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 117 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 137 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 117 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 122 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 104 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 104 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 123 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 100 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 107 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 168 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 158 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 213 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 176 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 189 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 188 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 134 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 173 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 155 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 133 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 162 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 169 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 132 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 132 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
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Re: SC deflection 124 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 124 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 155 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 146 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 120 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 112 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 116 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 159 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 124 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 110 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 123 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 125 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 96 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 130 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 113 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 123 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 124 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 112 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 117 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
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Sam: act 3 scene 2 124 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 118 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 122 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 120 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
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the Root of the tree 140 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 117 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
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Rubbish! 157 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
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just to be clear... 168 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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