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charly Wrote:
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> Scott Creighton Wrote:
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> > I am sure you understand the point well enough.
> > While some churches, chapels, abbeys and so on
> may
> > have crypts for the deceased, these buidings
> are
> > conceived and built primarily as places
> of
> > religious worship and various other religious
> > ceremonies, baptisms, weddings, funerals and so
> > on. These buildings are not conceived for the
> > primary function of burial.
>
> A while the pyramid was conceived and built as the
> tomb for the king,

You keep repeating this as if saying it over and over will make it true. For it to be accepted as true you will need EVIDENCE. I have presented to you physical evidence which explains the purpose of the earth-filled stone container found by Belzoni in G2. I have shown how this chthonic ritual was carried on by later dynasties. In short, I have shown you that the stone box in G2 (and by extension, all other pyramids with an anonymous stone box) was never a QRSW (ie. a sarcpphagus for the burial of a person such as we find in the QRSW of mastabas).


various other parts of the
> pyramid complex were used for the numerous aspects
> of the funeray cult.
>

Just because your books speak of a "funerary cult" does not make these temples funerary structures. These temples abutting the pyramids were, imo, temples of life of a "rebirth cult" (of the earth/kingdom). Just like the later dynasties would build sun temples in which to recite prayers, spells and incantations to bring about the rebirth of the sun each day, so these 'earth temples' with prayers and incantations said each day to bring about the desired rebirth of the earth/kingdom (after the deluge).

> > With the pyramid as an instrument not of death
> but
> > of life and rebirth (for the earth/kingdom),
> why
> > wouldn't high-ranking people of that
> time
> > not want to be buried close to such an
> > edifice?
> >
> > SC
>
> The pyramid was not only the tomb of the king but
> also a resurection machine (rebirth),

And THAT is where I believe Egyptology has gone awry. They were, imo, 'ressurection machines' to bring about the rebirth of the kingdom - that is what the Coptic-Egyptian tradition informs us and is what the evidence points to. This is not to say, however, that in later dynasties when the pyramid was regarded an 'instrument of rebirth' this concept would be appropriated for the king himself, thus all the confusion we have today. But they were FIRST the rebirth instruments for the kingdom--16 (completed) pyramids that would, in time, come to be seen as the body of Osiris which had been cut into 16 pieces and scattered across the land. This is what the Pyramid Texts say i.e. "the pyramid is Osiris... the construction [of the pyramid] is Osiris." The Ka of Osiris is within the pyramid (NOT the Osiris N. king's actual body). The pyramid as the 'body of Osiris' would essentially serve as the Ka Double for kings of this period.

high-ranking
> people wanted to be buried close to the most
> important one.
>
No. They would want to be close to a structure they knew to be an instrument of rebirth (of the kingdom). If the pyramid could bring about the rebirth of the kingdom, it could surely bring about their own rebirth. This is why an Osirian rebirth is a fully corporeal event in the living realm and not regarded as a metaphysical resurrection in the heavenly realm. It is a corporeal rebirth because the rebirth or 'reawakening' of the earth was a fully corporeal event.

> If the pyramids of the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th dyn
> weren't the tombs of the kings, where are their
> tombs? Still hidden? What are the odds that not a
> single one of those "hidden" tombs has been found?

Many early dynasty mastaba tombs of AE kings were raided numerous times. I suspect some of those kings may well have been re-located in the Hall of the Ancestors. But one would have thought that the visibility of mastaba tombs would have taught these early kings that underground burial in an unmarked tomb was the safest way to ensure an uniterrupted afterlife (certainly NOT an even more highly visible pyramid). The underground tomb of Khufu's mother at Giza was discovered only in the early 20th century after a freak accident. I suspect there may be other underground burials to be found.

SC



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07-Jan-18 15:15 by Scott Creighton.

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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 435 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 380 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 222 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 260 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 234 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 247 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 215 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 285 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 304 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 256 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 256 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 129 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 129 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 124 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 134 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 122 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 136 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 123 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 124 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 187 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 177 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 238 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 195 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 207 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 217 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 156 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 195 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 170 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 151 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 181 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 185 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 151 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 148 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 177 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 139 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 142 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 169 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 167 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 126 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 130 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 129 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 129 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 136 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 115 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
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Sam: act 3 scene 2 140 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
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the Root of the tree 160 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 159 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 173 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
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just to be clear... 188 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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