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> > > > > > > > Even if every mastaba were
> originally
> > a
> > > > > tomb,
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > would that show that the pyramids
> > were
> > > > > tombs?
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The pyramid evolved from the mastaba;
> > > > > Djoser's
> > > > > > > original mastaba evolved into a
> stepped
> > > > > mastaba
> > > > > > > and then with Sekhemkhet a square
> > > grounplan
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > used thus creating the first step
> > > pyramid.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's a neat hypothesis, now how are
> you
> > > > going
> > > > > to
> > > > > > prove it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not a hypothesis, just a statement of
> > facts.
> > > >
> > > > Djoser's pyramid was converted from a
> > mastaba.
> > > > The great pyramids were not converted from
> a
> > > > mastaba.
> > > > The great pyramids are very unlike Djosers
> > > > pyramid.
> > > > You're confusing evolution with conversion.
> > > > Therefore the notion of pyramid by pyramid
> > > > evolution is an unproven hypothesis and not
> a
> > > fact
> > > > or proven theory.
> > > > How are you going to prove that hypothesis?
> > >
> > > If by great pyramids you mean those of the
> 4th
> > > dyn, they are just another step in pyramid
> > > evolution.
> > > The Medum pyramid complex is the link between
> > the
> > > step pyramid complex and the "true" pyramid
> > > complex.
> > > The pyramid of Medum was originally a step
> > pyramid
> > > but the other parts of the complex were
> > something
> > > new, a blueprint if you like for all that
> > followed
> > > untill the end of the OK; cult pyramid
> (first
> > one
> > > ever, but a stepped one; only one of it's
> kind
> > ),
> > > funerary chapel (evolved into temple),
> causway,
> > > valley temple.
> > > Don't forget that this step pyramid was
> > converted
> > > into a "true" pyramid.
> >
> > Some questions:
> >
> > First: Why do you think the Meidum inner
> stepped
> > 'cores' were smoothed with casing stones and
> then
> > additonal casing stones added to convert to a
> true
> > pyramid?
>
> Sneferu wanted a true pyramid,

Yes, you read that opinion in a hundred or more books, didn't you. All those books regurgitating the same tired old OPINION. Opinion ISN'T fact, Charly, no matter how much you wish it to be so. What PROOF can you present that Sneferu's goal was to build a true pyramid? Why isn't it just as possible that Sneferu desired to build as many pyramids in his lifetime as he possibly could (as part of a national recovery system for the kingdom)?

after the problems
> with the Bent the conversion at Meidum started
> etc.

So "after the problems with the Bent" why did Sneferu continue to build it long after these problems were identified? Why not stop building at the point the problem of too steep a slope became apparent, re-use the blocks from the Bent to help in the conversion of Meidum and the new construction of the Red? This suggests to me that Sneferu continued to build the Bent long after the problem of the slope became obvious because he simply didn't give a hoot about building a true pyramid.

As you well know you can find this in most
> works about pyramids.
>

And as well you know, it is all just Egyptological OPINION often presented as FACT. You really need to learn the difference.

> > Second: Why do you think the core stepped
> > footprint of Meidum was constructed on solid
> > bedrock but the added casing to convert t to a
> > true pyramid was built on sand (hence why this
> > part collapsed)?
>
> Collapse occured centuries later as you probably
> know.
>

Indeed. And the core STILL stands over 4,000 years later. Like I said--one builder knew what they were doing, the other didn't.

> > It strongly suggests to me that there were two
> > quite different builders involved. One who
> > understood and knew how to build a secure
> > structure i.e. on a solid foundation and one
> who
> > was quite ignorant of such. I'd be interested
> to
> > hear your view.
> >
> > SC
>
> It suggest Sneferu wanted a true pyramid at all
> costs, no need for two different builders.

No. It suggests Sneferu was adapting an existing monument and didn't have the experience at that point to do it correctly, hence the collapse of the conversion HE built.

Give the books a rest Charly and try thinking for yourself. The proof you claim to be all around that the pyramids were conceived as tombs is only in your imagination I'm afraid. If you cannot see that simple truth then there is little I or anyone else can do to help you see it.

SC



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07-Jan-18 10:13 by Scott Creighton.

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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 515 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 461 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 320 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 320 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 358 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 323 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 305 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 283 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 385 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 381 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 326 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 313 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 345 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 376 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 304 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 282 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 348 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 316 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 287 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 302 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 331 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 308 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 225 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 302 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 303 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 256 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 307 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 275 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 285 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 295 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 268 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 233 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 334 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 296 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 358 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 254 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 263 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 333 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 257 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 293 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 308 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 228 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 272 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 249 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 259 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
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Re: SC deflection 264 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 225 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 212 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
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Re: SC deflection 208 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 228 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 258 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 243 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 267 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 282 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 247 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 244 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 299 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 266 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 281 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 285 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
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Sam: act 3 scene 2 201 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
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the Root of the tree 218 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
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Rubbish! 234 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
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just to be clear... 253 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
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