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> > > > > Audrey Wrote:
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> > > > > > Even if every mastaba were originally a
> > > tomb,
> > > > > how
> > > > > > would that show that the pyramids were
> > > tombs?
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> > > > > The pyramid evolved from the mastaba;
> > > Djoser's
> > > > > original mastaba evolved into a stepped
> > > mastaba
> > > > > and then with Sekhemkhet a square
> grounplan
> > > was
> > > > > used thus creating the first step
> pyramid.
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> > > > That's a neat hypothesis, now how are you
> > going
> > > to
> > > > prove it?
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> > > Not a hypothesis, just a statement of facts.
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> > Djoser's pyramid was converted from a mastaba.
> > The great pyramids were not converted from a
> > mastaba.
> > The great pyramids are very unlike Djosers
> > pyramid.
> > You're confusing evolution with conversion.
> > Therefore the notion of pyramid by pyramid
> > evolution is an unproven hypothesis and not a
> fact
> > or proven theory.
> > How are you going to prove that hypothesis?
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> If by great pyramids you mean those of the 4th
> dyn, they are just another step in pyramid
> evolution.
> The Medum pyramid complex is the link between the
> step pyramid complex and the "true" pyramid
> complex.
> The pyramid of Medum was originally a step pyramid
> but the other parts of the complex were something
> new, a blueprint if you like for all that followed
> untill the end of the OK; cult pyramid (first one
> ever, but a stepped one; only one of it's kind ),
> funerary chapel (evolved into temple), causway,
> valley temple.
> Don't forget that this step pyramid was converted
> into a "true" pyramid.

Some questions:

First: Why do you think the Meidum inner stepped 'cores' were smoothed with casing stones and then additonal casing stones added to convert to a true pyramid?

Second: Why do you think the core stepped footprint of Meidum was constructed on solid bedrock but the added casing to convert t to a true pyramid was built on sand (hence why this part collapsed)?

It strongly suggests to me that there were two quite different builders involved. One who understood and knew how to build a secure structure i.e. on a solid foundation and one who was quite ignorant of such. I'd be interested to hear your view.

SC



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jan-18 22:28 by Scott Creighton.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2129 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 427 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 371 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 214 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 256 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 262 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 229 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 241 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 210 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 278 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 296 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 248 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 275 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 249 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 248 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 123 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 122 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 117 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 122 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 129 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 134 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 112 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 111 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 114 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 116 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 177 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 165 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 229 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 187 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 197 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 205 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 146 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 182 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 162 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 142 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 172 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 177 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 142 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 141 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 167 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 133 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 132 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 162 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 159 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 117 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 125 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 121 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 129 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 122 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 106 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 136 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 136 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 121 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 129 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 107 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 122 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 129 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 118 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 125 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 130 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 146 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 124 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 151 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 121 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 167 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 180 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 121 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 124 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 246 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 199 cladking 05-Jan-18 17:32
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 213 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 18:01
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 172 cladking 05-Jan-18 18:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 178 Nemobutwhatiimagian 14-Jan-18 09:26
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 144 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 143 Barbelo 06-Jan-18 19:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 162 Open mind 07-Jan-18 08:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 184 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 170 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 12:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 180 M. J. Thomas 07-Jan-18 16:32
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 158 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:31
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 178 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:42
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 175 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 97 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 173 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 22:19
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 192 Open mind 08-Jan-18 01:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 188 cladking 08-Jan-18 02:46
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 161 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 171 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 22:09
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