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> > > > > Audrey Wrote:
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> > > > > > Even if every mastaba were originally a
> > > tomb,
> > > > > how
> > > > > > would that show that the pyramids were
> > > tombs?
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> > > > > The pyramid evolved from the mastaba;
> > > Djoser's
> > > > > original mastaba evolved into a stepped
> > > mastaba
> > > > > and then with Sekhemkhet a square
> grounplan
> > > was
> > > > > used thus creating the first step
> pyramid.
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> > > > That's a neat hypothesis, now how are you
> > going
> > > to
> > > > prove it?
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> > > Not a hypothesis, just a statement of facts.
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> > Djoser's pyramid was converted from a mastaba.
> > The great pyramids were not converted from a
> > mastaba.
> > The great pyramids are very unlike Djosers
> > pyramid.
> > You're confusing evolution with conversion.
> > Therefore the notion of pyramid by pyramid
> > evolution is an unproven hypothesis and not a
> fact
> > or proven theory.
> > How are you going to prove that hypothesis?
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> If by great pyramids you mean those of the 4th
> dyn, they are just another step in pyramid
> evolution.
> The Medum pyramid complex is the link between the
> step pyramid complex and the "true" pyramid
> complex.
> The pyramid of Medum was originally a step pyramid
> but the other parts of the complex were something
> new, a blueprint if you like for all that followed
> untill the end of the OK; cult pyramid (first one
> ever, but a stepped one; only one of it's kind ),
> funerary chapel (evolved into temple), causway,
> valley temple.
> Don't forget that this step pyramid was converted
> into a "true" pyramid.

Some questions:

First: Why do you think the Meidum inner stepped 'cores' were smoothed with casing stones and then additonal casing stones added to convert to a true pyramid?

Second: Why do you think the core stepped footprint of Meidum was constructed on solid bedrock but the added casing to convert t to a true pyramid was built on sand (hence why this part collapsed)?

It strongly suggests to me that there were two quite different builders involved. One who understood and knew how to build a secure structure i.e. on a solid foundation and one who was quite ignorant of such. I'd be interested to hear your view.

SC



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jan-18 22:28 by Scott Creighton.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2165 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 455 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 395 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 235 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 269 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 288 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 249 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 259 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 227 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 298 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 318 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 267 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 272 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 294 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 271 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 256 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 235 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 269 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 134 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 225 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 200 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 190 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 248 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 205 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 225 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 230 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 169 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 210 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 182 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 163 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 192 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 202 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 165 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 158 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 191 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 149 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 155 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 178 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 180 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 147 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 126 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 126 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 139 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 153 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 170 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 218 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 167 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 138 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 181 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 202 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 266 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 15:03
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 166 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 16:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 163 Barbelo 06-Jan-18 19:53
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 191 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 116 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 212 Open mind 08-Jan-18 01:59
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 214 cladking 08-Jan-18 02:46
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 178 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
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