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> > > > > Audrey Wrote:
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> > > > > > Even if every mastaba were originally a
> > > tomb,
> > > > > how
> > > > > > would that show that the pyramids were
> > > tombs?
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> > > > > The pyramid evolved from the mastaba;
> > > Djoser's
> > > > > original mastaba evolved into a stepped
> > > mastaba
> > > > > and then with Sekhemkhet a square
> grounplan
> > > was
> > > > > used thus creating the first step
> pyramid.
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> > > > That's a neat hypothesis, now how are you
> > going
> > > to
> > > > prove it?
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> > > Not a hypothesis, just a statement of facts.
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> > Djoser's pyramid was converted from a mastaba.
> > The great pyramids were not converted from a
> > mastaba.
> > The great pyramids are very unlike Djosers
> > pyramid.
> > You're confusing evolution with conversion.
> > Therefore the notion of pyramid by pyramid
> > evolution is an unproven hypothesis and not a
> fact
> > or proven theory.
> > How are you going to prove that hypothesis?
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> If by great pyramids you mean those of the 4th
> dyn, they are just another step in pyramid
> evolution.
> The Medum pyramid complex is the link between the
> step pyramid complex and the "true" pyramid
> complex.
> The pyramid of Medum was originally a step pyramid
> but the other parts of the complex were something
> new, a blueprint if you like for all that followed
> untill the end of the OK; cult pyramid (first one
> ever, but a stepped one; only one of it's kind ),
> funerary chapel (evolved into temple), causway,
> valley temple.
> Don't forget that this step pyramid was converted
> into a "true" pyramid.

Some questions:

First: Why do you think the Meidum inner stepped 'cores' were smoothed with casing stones and then additonal casing stones added to convert to a true pyramid?

Second: Why do you think the core stepped footprint of Meidum was constructed on solid bedrock but the added casing to convert t to a true pyramid was built on sand (hence why this part collapsed)?

It strongly suggests to me that there were two quite different builders involved. One who understood and knew how to build a secure structure i.e. on a solid foundation and one who was quite ignorant of such. I'd be interested to hear your view.

SC



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jan-18 22:28 by Scott Creighton.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2279 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 495 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 432 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 283 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 300 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 321 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 289 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 286 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 255 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 340 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 345 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 261 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 293 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 314 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 336 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 269 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 316 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 271 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 302 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 276 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 266 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 262 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 224 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 265 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 292 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 259 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 303 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 229 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 230 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 294 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 229 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 258 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 267 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 199 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 241 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 212 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 215 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 226 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 236 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 194 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 184 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 228 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 174 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 190 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 214 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 214 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 233 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 298 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 253 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 204 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 170 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 235 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 174 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 258 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 258 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 261 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 266 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 189 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 181 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 250 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 203 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 224 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 223 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 221 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 221 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
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