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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Which is based entirely on the unsubstantiated
> premise that it was built during the early bronze
> age by a known early bronze age, archaeologically
> known culture of archaeologically known and
> typically early bronze age technological ability.
> The mismatch is the problem.
> Circular logic and confirmation bias..

Exactly.

The problem is Egyptologists just explain everything in terms of trial and error performed by people just exactly like us but with no metaphysics at all, no scientific theory at all, and no understanding of their environment whatsoever. According to Egyptologists a bunch of wholly ignorant people who believed everything was controlled by forces of magic and religion tried one technique after another before they found a means to build complex shapes and raise mountains. Never mind that these techniques aren't understood or explained by us because they obviously possessed some magical technology that accounts for everything we can't explain. The pyramid exists therefore Khufu had the knowledge and means to build it. What makes this wholly unremarkable is that they started with the assumption that Khufu had the knowledge and means to build it. It doesn't matter to Egyptologists how this knowledge was invented or why it was applied because they started with all the answers.

Egyptologists are not disturbed that no metaphysics and no words of science exist because the pyramid does and they mustta had the means to do it and that means mustta been ramps because they were so highly ignorant and so incapable that ramps were the only technology available. Everything always makes perfect sense to those who believe from the outset.

The FACT that it's been shown other means exist and the FACT that recent testing has disproven internal ramps means nothing to them. It's not only been PROVEN other means exist but it's been shown that these means are actually in evidence and ramps are not. But they can't back off any of their beliefs without endangering them all and therefore the pyramids are tombs built by superstitious people using ramps and they didn't need no stinkin' metaphysics because they had superstition to make them strong enough to use a wholly unevidenced means of dragging stones.

It might not make sense to us but then we don't turn our backs to the pyramid to try to reverse engineer it and don't wait for the latest word from linguists about engineering. We don't assume that all those tests that Egyptologists have failed to perform would return no meaningful results. We don't just look at anomalies and write them off as a manifestation of ancient superstition rather than what they actually are; a manifestation of our own ignorance. We don't ignore the evidence that doesn't support our hypotheses. I always thought Egyptology would have to be proven wrong while resisting it the whole way to become a laughing stock. Now I wonder. No matter how wrong they are shown to be it has no effect on their beliefs and little on their tactics to suppress dissent. They remain afraid to do the testing that must be done to answer the real questions. These questions don't concern the beliefs of ancient stinky footed bumpkin but rather they concern the determination of what knowledge was needed to build the pyramids.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jan-18 17:26 by cladking.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2148 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 441 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 383 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 224 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 263 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 275 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 237 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 250 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 218 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 307 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 256 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 262 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 284 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 259 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 259 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 125 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 157 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 137 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 126 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 122 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 127 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 130 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 189 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 182 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 239 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 198 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 211 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 221 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 159 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 198 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 172 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 152 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 184 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 188 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 154 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 151 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 179 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 141 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 146 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 170 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 171 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 128 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 208 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 137 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 133 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 119 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 167 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 137 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 141 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 143 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 130 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 142 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 158 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 136 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 215 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 209 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 135 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 158 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 161 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 132 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 175 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 146 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 190 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 131 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 184 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 108 cladking 07-Jan-18 21:50
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 172 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 181 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 22:09
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