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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Which is based entirely on the unsubstantiated
> premise that it was built during the early bronze
> age by a known early bronze age, archaeologically
> known culture of archaeologically known and
> typically early bronze age technological ability.
> The mismatch is the problem.
> Circular logic and confirmation bias..

Exactly.

The problem is Egyptologists just explain everything in terms of trial and error performed by people just exactly like us but with no metaphysics at all, no scientific theory at all, and no understanding of their environment whatsoever. According to Egyptologists a bunch of wholly ignorant people who believed everything was controlled by forces of magic and religion tried one technique after another before they found a means to build complex shapes and raise mountains. Never mind that these techniques aren't understood or explained by us because they obviously possessed some magical technology that accounts for everything we can't explain. The pyramid exists therefore Khufu had the knowledge and means to build it. What makes this wholly unremarkable is that they started with the assumption that Khufu had the knowledge and means to build it. It doesn't matter to Egyptologists how this knowledge was invented or why it was applied because they started with all the answers.

Egyptologists are not disturbed that no metaphysics and no words of science exist because the pyramid does and they mustta had the means to do it and that means mustta been ramps because they were so highly ignorant and so incapable that ramps were the only technology available. Everything always makes perfect sense to those who believe from the outset.

The FACT that it's been shown other means exist and the FACT that recent testing has disproven internal ramps means nothing to them. It's not only been PROVEN other means exist but it's been shown that these means are actually in evidence and ramps are not. But they can't back off any of their beliefs without endangering them all and therefore the pyramids are tombs built by superstitious people using ramps and they didn't need no stinkin' metaphysics because they had superstition to make them strong enough to use a wholly unevidenced means of dragging stones.

It might not make sense to us but then we don't turn our backs to the pyramid to try to reverse engineer it and don't wait for the latest word from linguists about engineering. We don't assume that all those tests that Egyptologists have failed to perform would return no meaningful results. We don't just look at anomalies and write them off as a manifestation of ancient superstition rather than what they actually are; a manifestation of our own ignorance. We don't ignore the evidence that doesn't support our hypotheses. I always thought Egyptology would have to be proven wrong while resisting it the whole way to become a laughing stock. Now I wonder. No matter how wrong they are shown to be it has no effect on their beliefs and little on their tactics to suppress dissent. They remain afraid to do the testing that must be done to answer the real questions. These questions don't concern the beliefs of ancient stinky footed bumpkin but rather they concern the determination of what knowledge was needed to build the pyramids.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jan-18 17:26 by cladking.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2272 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 493 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 429 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 279 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 298 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 318 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 286 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 283 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 253 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 340 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 345 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 292 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 281 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 313 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 334 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 268 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 313 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 288 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 268 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 301 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 276 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 191 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 263 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 263 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 287 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 258 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 298 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 229 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 229 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 293 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 228 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 258 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 266 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 198 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 240 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 211 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 213 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 223 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 234 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 193 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 183 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 228 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 173 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 190 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 213 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 214 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 251 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 213 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 297 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 193 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 188 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 187 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 192 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 252 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 240 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 219 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 203 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 169 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 206 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 234 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 197 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 173 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 256 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 258 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 228 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 227 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 260 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 265 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 188 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 238 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 246 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 196 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 202 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 230 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 222 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 161 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 159 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
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Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 222 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 21:32
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 203 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
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