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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Which is based entirely on the unsubstantiated
> premise that it was built during the early bronze
> age by a known early bronze age, archaeologically
> known culture of archaeologically known and
> typically early bronze age technological ability.
> The mismatch is the problem.
> Circular logic and confirmation bias..

Exactly.

The problem is Egyptologists just explain everything in terms of trial and error performed by people just exactly like us but with no metaphysics at all, no scientific theory at all, and no understanding of their environment whatsoever. According to Egyptologists a bunch of wholly ignorant people who believed everything was controlled by forces of magic and religion tried one technique after another before they found a means to build complex shapes and raise mountains. Never mind that these techniques aren't understood or explained by us because they obviously possessed some magical technology that accounts for everything we can't explain. The pyramid exists therefore Khufu had the knowledge and means to build it. What makes this wholly unremarkable is that they started with the assumption that Khufu had the knowledge and means to build it. It doesn't matter to Egyptologists how this knowledge was invented or why it was applied because they started with all the answers.

Egyptologists are not disturbed that no metaphysics and no words of science exist because the pyramid does and they mustta had the means to do it and that means mustta been ramps because they were so highly ignorant and so incapable that ramps were the only technology available. Everything always makes perfect sense to those who believe from the outset.

The FACT that it's been shown other means exist and the FACT that recent testing has disproven internal ramps means nothing to them. It's not only been PROVEN other means exist but it's been shown that these means are actually in evidence and ramps are not. But they can't back off any of their beliefs without endangering them all and therefore the pyramids are tombs built by superstitious people using ramps and they didn't need no stinkin' metaphysics because they had superstition to make them strong enough to use a wholly unevidenced means of dragging stones.

It might not make sense to us but then we don't turn our backs to the pyramid to try to reverse engineer it and don't wait for the latest word from linguists about engineering. We don't assume that all those tests that Egyptologists have failed to perform would return no meaningful results. We don't just look at anomalies and write them off as a manifestation of ancient superstition rather than what they actually are; a manifestation of our own ignorance. We don't ignore the evidence that doesn't support our hypotheses. I always thought Egyptology would have to be proven wrong while resisting it the whole way to become a laughing stock. Now I wonder. No matter how wrong they are shown to be it has no effect on their beliefs and little on their tactics to suppress dissent. They remain afraid to do the testing that must be done to answer the real questions. These questions don't concern the beliefs of ancient stinky footed bumpkin but rather they concern the determination of what knowledge was needed to build the pyramids.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06-Jan-18 17:26 by cladking.

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Plausible functions of the great pyramid 2198 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:10
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 468 Nemobutwhatiimagian 04-Jan-18 19:15
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 411 Barbelo 04-Jan-18 20:29
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 249 theoferrum 11-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 279 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 12:53
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 298 D-Archer 05-Jan-18 13:25
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 264 Nemobutwhatiimagian 05-Jan-18 14:24
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 273 Pifaaso 05-Jan-18 14:58
Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 238 MBeeler 07-Jan-18 05:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 314 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 14:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 331 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 239 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 276 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 M. J. Thomas 05-Jan-18 22:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 289 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 22:16
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 305 M. J. Thomas 06-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 08:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 Nemobutwhatiimagian 06-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Function in plain sight! 289 Thunderbird 07-Jan-18 19:12
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 272 Corpuscles 05-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 249 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 21:30
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 283 charly 06-Jan-18 11:19
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 14:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 189 charly 06-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 178 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 19:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 charly 06-Jan-18 20:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 190 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 charly 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:58
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 charly 06-Jan-18 22:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 243 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 21:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 charly 06-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 23:14
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 202 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 10:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 theoferrum 12-Jan-18 07:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 242 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 12:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 10:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 180 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 cladking 13-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 231 Nemobutwhatiimagian 08-Jan-18 19:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 207 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 14:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 charly 06-Jan-18 14:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 15:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 charly 06-Jan-18 21:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 charly 06-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 142 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 144 charly 06-Jan-18 22:43
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 179 Jon Ellison 06-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Nemobutwhatiimagian 13-Jan-18 11:13
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Scott Creighton 06-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 charly 07-Jan-18 09:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 241 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 145 Merrell 07-Jan-18 12:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 13:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 211 charly 07-Jan-18 14:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 174 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 148 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 15:11
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 248 charly 07-Jan-18 15:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 236 Corpuscles 07-Jan-18 17:28
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 271 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 19:27
SC deflection 214 Corpuscles 08-Jan-18 23:00
I must be doing something right, too. n/t 204 cladking 09-Jan-18 02:01
Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 268 charly 09-Jan-18 09:32
Re: Re:Sneferu and his pyramids 215 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 13:26
Re: SC deflection 239 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:04
Re: SC deflection 244 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 16:59
Re: SC deflection 184 Corpuscles 09-Jan-18 23:23
Re: SC deflection 225 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 10:22
Re: SC deflection 192 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 11:56
Re: SC deflection 177 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:25
Re: SC deflection 203 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 15:47
Re: SC deflection 215 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:05
Re: SC deflection 177 Open mind 10-Jan-18 17:14
Re: SC deflection 170 cladking 10-Jan-18 17:41
Ramps? 210 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 10:57
Re: SC deflection 156 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 20:46
Re: SC deflection 169 cladking 11-Jan-18 21:12
Re: SC deflection 192 Corpuscles 11-Jan-18 01:17
Re: SC deflection 196 Open mind 11-Jan-18 04:07
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 eyeofhorus33 09-Jan-18 21:05
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:41
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Corpuscles 10-Jan-18 00:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 147 cladking 10-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 151 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 09:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 233 Merrell 10-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 eyeofhorus33 10-Jan-18 17:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 198 Scott Creighton 11-Jan-18 11:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 15:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 186 cladking 11-Jan-18 18:51
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 19:32
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 156 eyeofhorus33 11-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 cladking 11-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 199 Martin Stower 11-Jan-18 21:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 264 cladking 12-Jan-18 01:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 cladking 12-Jan-18 19:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 137 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 20:44
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 cladking 12-Jan-18 21:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 eyeofhorus33 12-Jan-18 22:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 171 cladking 12-Jan-18 22:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 166 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:25
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 162 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:38
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 Martin Stower 12-Jan-18 23:37
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 140 cladking 13-Jan-18 00:52
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 184 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 176 cladking 13-Jan-18 03:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 175 Corpuscles 12-Jan-18 23:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 229 Scott Creighton 12-Jan-18 10:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 154 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 07:45
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 223 Scott Creighton 13-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 163 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 12:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 164 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 cladking 13-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 eyeofhorus33 13-Jan-18 18:29
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 194 cladking 13-Jan-18 20:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 Martin Stower 13-Jan-18 21:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 153 cladking 13-Jan-18 21:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 195 eyeofhorus33 14-Jan-18 00:00
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 183 cladking 14-Jan-18 01:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Nemobutwhatiimagian 09-Jan-18 17:55
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 214 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:12
Sam: act 3 scene 2 160 Warwick 09-Jan-18 16:58
Re: Sam: act 3 scene 2 180 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:36
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 222 charly 07-Jan-18 15:17
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 155 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:50
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 160 Scott Creighton 07-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 245 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 00:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 244 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 10:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 200 Scott Creighton 08-Jan-18 10:47
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 11:31
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 226 charly 08-Jan-18 13:18
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 232 Martin Stower 08-Jan-18 14:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 237 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 11:33
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 173 charly 09-Jan-18 13:59
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 152 cladking 09-Jan-18 14:34
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 Scott Creighton 09-Jan-18 15:54
the Root of the tree 176 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:09
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 217 charly 09-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 168 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Scott Creighton 10-Jan-18 08:42
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 182 Thanos5150 08-Jan-18 21:00
Rubbish! 191 Warwick 09-Jan-18 17:23
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 212 Martin Stower 09-Jan-18 18:02
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 165 Warwick 09-Jan-18 19:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 185 Thanos5150 09-Jan-18 22:35
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 205 Martin Stower 10-Jan-18 18:30
just to be clear... 211 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:40
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 149 cladking 07-Jan-18 15:08
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 201 charly 07-Jan-18 16:03
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 150 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:27
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 177 Martin Stower 07-Jan-18 12:39
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 216 Audrey 07-Jan-18 07:04
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 220 Thanos5150 06-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 210 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Plausible (?) functions of the great pyramid 172 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 23:34
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 242 Jon Ellison 05-Jan-18 18:01
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Re: Plausible functions of the great pyramid 188 Nemobutwhatiimagian 07-Jan-18 22:02
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