> Dr. Phil: "A mass, simultaneous drug-induced
> hallucination OR a simultaneous collective LSD
What?! You are attributing that to me as an exact quote, but where did I make that statement?
> My God, Don't you realize how desperate you sound
> by making such a suggestion, which you further
> imply that my experience was likely due to
> some acid trip, along with all of the hundreds of
> other people that witnessed what I did?
Yes, it's pretty clear who's being desperate here.
First, I didn't say what you quoted me as saying.
Second, I never remotely hinted that you were drugged.
Third, I never said anything disparaging at all about the hundreds of other people at those events.
And since you still haven't described in detail what it was that you saw, I have no basis for opining whether the rest of the audience saw what you saw.
You're way overreaching.
> First you accuse me of proselytizing, now you
> basically call me, and everybody else who saw the
> 'dancing stars', a druggie.
Nonsense. Stop trying to twist my words so that you have something you can throw darts at. I'm only questioning the veracity of the blinking Sun on those videos.
> Back to this thread's discussion. As you know by
> now, since you are on the board, I sent you a PM
> entitled Poster Boy writes.
> Are these the words of a person who is proselytizing?
> "Hi Phillip
> I am sorry if we got off on the wrong foot.
> Thinking about this further, I am trying to come
> up with the best case for you that I can think of.
> Are you saying that the video footage is likely
> manipulated frame by frame, which you represented
> examples of with the two still images?
> That would be reasonable."
> You did not reply.
> Instead, at your first opportunity, you respond to
> my peace offering by trying to make me out to be a
> druggie in an indirect way.
> So, let me close this discussion.
> The PM I sent you is the only interpretation I can
> think of that makes sense, in no small part
> because I have done video editing. One could, in
> theory, doctor each frame to create the illusion
> of an expanding and contracting sun in
> post-production. It would be a helluva a lot of
> work, but it could be done.
You obviously don't have very much experience in video editing. Even the free apps that come with the computer make it clear that you select a video segment and tell the software to apply the processing to that segment. The user isn't required to "doctor each frame". It is most definitely NOT a "helluva lot of work". If you truly had experience editing videos you'd know that.
> Now, if this is true, your explanation requires
> that all such videos are doctored this way.
> After looking around on Youtube I found several.
> Dozens, Phil. Each one, according to your take,
> must have been similarly doctored.
Well, that's NOT true, so your argument here is moot. And how do you know whether all those videos aren't created by the same one or two people? What do you know about those vidographers at all?
> ...This apparent take of yours also requires that
> every first-person testimonial is based on
> lies or delusion. If you had looked you would have
> been able to find ample first-person testimonials.
To what "first-person" testimonials are you referring? I've not seen a single testimonial that has described a Blinking Sun. In fact, even YOU haven't claimed to have see that, so what are you debating here? That the videos posted on YouTube are authentic even though you haven't actually seen it yourself, and haven't even corroborated it with any technical authority or independent eyewitness reports?
> So, your view is that everybody who saw the
> dancing stars in India, on two occasions, at
> least, must have been on acid or experiencing its
> post effects en masse and at the same time. An
> unprecedented collective hallucination, eh Phil?
"Everybody" who saw the "dancing stars"?
Who reported "dancing stars", besides "Ram Das"?
And where did I ever say that the attendees at those events were tripping on acid "en masse"?
> Every solar anomaly video was doctored, and...
How many is "every"? I saw a couple, and it's not clear that they were generated by more than one individual.
> ...everybody present at these solar events was on
> some sort of drug or similarly deluded.
You fabricated that, I never said anything like that.
> That seems to be your take.
Perhaps in your mind, but that's simply not at all what I said.
How can any of us ever know, when all we can do is think?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09-Jan-18 17:48 by Origyptian.