as promised Yesterday I'm back to you.
> 2. Likewise with ET: "if" as something, the human
> species was subject to genetic manipulation, where
> a more adaptable strain of 'us' was introduced to
> the human family, where it then previaled, as
> expected by ET, through normal natural selection,
> then the same point you make can certainly be
> applied to ET - who could have evolved to its
> point through purely random processes, under the
> right conditions.
While I thnk it is silly to "Believe" in the existence of ET, also I think that is equally silly "Denied it".
Actually if we apply the calculation of the possibilities, ET should of course exists.
BUT... till now we do not got or found any out of any doubts proof about their existence.
Coming back to the question of Human Beings, If we change the word "manipulation", which litterally means
"act done by hands", there is the exact word which is: "MUTATION".
In Nature, if we take into consideration the animal species and in particular mammals from which we may
restrict the attention to "Primates", there are specifical "beings/Non beings" which can "manipulate,
better say "induce genetic mutations": that are VIRUSES.
It is a well know and attested knowledge, that VIRUSES can modify Genetic material i.e. DNA.
We held some discussion in Science section, and in my first post I posted the relative links.
In those Topics we discussed the role of the Viruses as responsible of Significan Genetic Mutation among Primates.
Such mutation pushed some Primates to come dawn from threes and start walk.
Why I do not consider an eventual ET "manipulations" is because the found fossils show a wide range of "Bipedes"
which we label HOMINIDAE which evidences we have frOm fossils which are dated around a couple of milions of years ago.
Event thoug our DNA is about 98% similar to those of Chimps and Bonobo, this does not means that they are
the only and true ancestors of us being only them "infected" by viruses and then some components of such
specie became "Bipede primates".
We may consider that such infections sprang among some species of "Primates" in which the "Mutation"
pushed them to walk: they became "HOMINIDAE".
See the discussion about "Little foot" here: [grahamhancock.com]
If we consider that all "Hominidae species" evolved (and when in contact they interbreed), they migrate
during catastrophic climate changes and they met with other Hminidae with whom they interbreed,
So as you are well aware interbreeding between animal species, provocate "GENETIC MUTATIONS" and then "Evolution of the new occoured branch (not specie)".
If we move down during flow of times we have evidences of Neanderthals. Denisovans, Florenses, Cro-Magnon.
From all of them only we, the evolution from Cro-Magnun survived.
Why only we survived ? may be because all of such breedings during eons, the more adapted and
customized to have proficual social behaviours, along with the right genetic bagage survived.
We who in our genetic bagaeùge have the 98% similar DNA of what adays has Chimps and Bonobo.
Our genetic bagage is a matter of fact.
BUT about the survival of only us, this is just my personal idea which are not supported by any out of any
Evidences are just those on which I drow the attention.
My conclusion is that we are, as very often I state: a sort of Soup (in Italian minestrone - Aine said Heinz 57)
which is the result of what above illustrated.
Of course that's just my Humbles and may be weird toughs.
> This is certainly possible, of course, but I think
> that general idea points to the futility of trying
> to prove the point either way. At the end
> of the day, as far as I can tell, the bottom line
> is if one considers 'chance' to be the most
> persuasive explanation. However, because we
> still have a mystery, imo, it must be incorrect
> to say that evolution 'is' entirely random; or
> that it 'is not'.
> For me personally, the whole matter hearkens
> straight back to the even deeper question: Does
> one think that the universe or multiverses etc etc
> are created-designed or the result of a big
> accident-random event? 'IMHO' is indeed the most
> apt term, with emphasis on the big H!
An accident-random event? why not? Big Bang could happened because of that? Why not?
Being me not a physicist nor an astronomer nor a mathematician, but just a simple man of a country,
I have a nail on the head about Big Bang Event: an accident (may be random) or as an event repeat, the
balaned Equilibrium between MATTER and ANTIMATTER failed and the results was actually the Big Bang.
On the other side it could be that the Universe can implode and so the Balanced Equilibrium between
Matter and Antimatter happen again, till when it can happen again and again:
I'm aware that this mean the existence of 2 Two different - but parallel - Universes.
WHO KNOWS? ARE THERE MANY UNIVERSES? ...... WE DO NOT KNOW..... but we can "postulate", speculate and discuss........
> Just curiously, are you familiar with the various
> theories that say, based apparently on the fossil
> record, that we may have been or are likely to
> have been genetically altered at certain key
Yew, as I stated the question of Viruses and interbreeding among Hominidae species.
The starting point was when 2 (two) chromosomes fused due to a huge viral infection, event which
has been extimated happened about 2.8 milion years ago.
That was widely discussed in the links of Viruses and Human origins and the others which went after,
links which I post in my first post on this long (and now very very engulfed) Topic.
Nice and bright day
You can not solve a problem with the same kind of thinking that you used to create it.