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Aine Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
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> > Aine Wrote:
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> > > ...NONRANDOM natural selection
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> > Would you mind elaborating on what you mean by that?
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> Just what it says. Mutations are random, natural
> selection is not. (Natural selection is a process,
> not an end result.) The genetic variation that we
> see because of mutations is random, but genetics
> that help survival and reproduction are more
> likely to survive than those than don't.
> Therefore, not random.

Allow me to play devil’s advocate with the assertion that “natural selection” isn’t random.

The term “natural selection” strikes me as a misnomer. How is anyone “selected”? Among a bunch of hungry animals under a tall tree, the animal with the longest neck gets the leaves. But the tree didn't "select" the long-necks. And the long-necks didn't "select" the tall tree since they can just as well eat from a short tree. Rather, the process is more like passive "Natural Filtration". My only point is that a tree with leaves high off the ground does not “select” the giraffe with the longest neck, so it's not clear how such a thing isn't considered random. The filtration is arguable random in that it applies to every animal that happens to pass by.

I have little doubt that cosmic rays can cause random mutations, but on what basis are we to believe that DNA mutations are generally random? May we not include environmental factors? Besides, how do we know whether those random mutations are prone to enhance the survival of a given species (e.g., how can be we sure that random mutations don't kill off as many or more organisms than they help?).

Might the built-in redundancy of DNA act as a mirror-RAID system to correct the mutation based on the other non-mutated redundant copies?

For that matter, one could argue against DNA mutations being "random" since the mutating cosmic photons must specifically "select" DNA, and that could arguably render the mutation non-random.

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Intelligent Design and Human Origins 2578 MichaelG 29-Dec-17 18:35
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 504 PhiPIandI 29-Dec-17 20:51
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 316 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 318 rodz111 21-Jan-18 15:52
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 379 jjeremybenthem 29-Dec-17 21:25
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 282 MichaelG 08-Jan-18 18:45
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 412 Aine 29-Dec-17 23:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 311 M. J. Thomas 30-Dec-17 11:12
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 357 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 13:10
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 322 Aine 30-Dec-17 14:47
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 277 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 17:41
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 285 Aine 30-Dec-17 17:57
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 313 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-17 18:18
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 276 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 18:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 299 M. J. Thomas 30-Dec-17 20:52
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 308 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-17 21:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 240 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 262 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-17 23:35
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 347 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 05:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 219 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 19:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 240 cladking 30-Dec-17 19:11
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 290 Vanya 30-Dec-17 14:04
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 239 MichaelG 08-Jan-18 18:46
Ongoing multidisciplinary studies across academia . . . 348 Reagent 30-Dec-17 02:49
Re: Ongoing multidisciplinary studies across academia . . . 201 MichaelG 08-Jan-18 19:52
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 338 Thunderbird 30-Dec-17 04:16
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 282 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 13:16
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 288 Thunderbird 31-Dec-17 18:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 243 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 186 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 368 Vanya 30-Dec-17 14:25
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 266 Aine 30-Dec-17 14:48
Not necessarily Christian 268 drrayeye 30-Dec-17 22:26
Re: Not necessarily Christian 263 Vanya 31-Dec-17 09:06
Re: Not necessarily Christian 217 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 03:48
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 255 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 16:59
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 242 brett z 31-Dec-17 17:16
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 223 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:37
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 232 brett z 31-Dec-17 23:22
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 219 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 07:53
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 212 brett z 01-Jan-18 19:17
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 210 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 192 brett z 01-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 218 Aine 31-Dec-17 17:46
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 253 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 18:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 234 Aine 31-Dec-17 19:23
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 252 Aine 31-Dec-17 19:31
What about Multiverse ? 255 Vanya 01-Jan-18 12:19
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 237 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 214 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 168 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 206 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:13
Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 300 drrayeye 30-Dec-17 22:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 227 brett z 30-Dec-17 23:04
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 256 drrayeye 31-Dec-17 08:47
, Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 268 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 09:38
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design 235 DUNE 31-Dec-17 10:29
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 233 drrayeye 31-Dec-17 12:57
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 276 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 13:37
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 248 drrayeye 31-Dec-17 14:13
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 237 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 14:27
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 242 drrayeye 31-Dec-17 14:53
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 259 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 15:56
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 227 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:15
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 222 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:06
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 170 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 08:05
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 226 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 01:59
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 214 brett z 01-Jan-18 02:08
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 262 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:11
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 217 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 07:59
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 221 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 10:32
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 203 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 17:25
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 267 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 18:29
driving force 220 brett z 01-Jan-18 18:57
Re: driving force 214 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 18:59
Re: driving force 216 brett z 01-Jan-18 19:01
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 210 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:54
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 200 brett z 02-Jan-18 03:31
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 242 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 05:15
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 292 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:06
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 309 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 21:09
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 228 Aine 02-Jan-18 22:55
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 260 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 14:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 256 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 15:05
entropy 220 brett z 03-Jan-18 15:45
Re: entropy 216 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 16:22
Re: entropy 216 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:56
Re: entropy 269 brett z 03-Jan-18 21:15
Re: entropy 212 Aham 04-Jan-18 05:07
Re: entropy 249 brett z 04-Jan-18 05:52
Re: entropy 205 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:07
Re: entropy 197 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 16:59
Re: entropy 236 brett z 05-Jan-18 17:13
Re: entropy 213 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 18:17
Re: entropy 212 brett z 05-Jan-18 18:21
Re: entropy 195 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 18:08
Re: entropy 227 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 16:13
snow crystals and life 245 brett z 05-Jan-18 20:52
Re: snow crystals and life 199 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 21:18
Re: snow crystals and life 203 brett z 06-Jan-18 22:08
Re: entropy 249 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 15:34
Information 203 drrayeye 05-Jan-18 17:46
Re: Information 189 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 18:36
Re: Information 202 cladking 06-Jan-18 19:35
Re: Information 228 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 20:14
Re: entropy 213 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:16
Re: entropy 193 Eddie Larry 05-Jan-18 20:32
Re: entropy 262 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:53
Re: entropy 215 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 20:47
Re: entropy 203 cladking 06-Jan-18 21:57
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 241 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:45
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 171 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 160 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:26
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 195 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 03:03
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 241 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 236 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 17:07
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 222 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 19:06
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 199 cladking 05-Jan-18 19:33
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 199 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:16
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 167 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 21:26
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 177 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:27
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 183 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 206 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 16:55
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 205 brett z 06-Jan-18 17:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 181 cladking 06-Jan-18 20:06
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 242 Thunderbird 06-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 191 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 17:05
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 197 Thunderbird 08-Jan-18 05:59
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 220 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:13
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 182 cladking 08-Jan-18 17:17
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 234 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 17:31
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 191 cladking 08-Jan-18 18:26
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 250 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 16:55
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 237 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 202 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 06:59
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 230 Susan Doris 10-Jan-18 07:40
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 240 Audrey 10-Jan-18 18:03
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 215 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 18:57
Re: Masonic History 205 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:03
Re: Masonic History 210 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Masonic History 222 Susan Doris 11-Jan-18 06:35
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 205 Susan Doris 10-Jan-18 19:22
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 143 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:00
Re: The speed of Thought : ) 187 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:31
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 291 Susan Doris 11-Jan-18 06:42
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 193 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:20
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 228 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 21:53
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 184 cladking 11-Jan-18 01:25
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 208 Origyptian 11-Jan-18 06:04
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 298 cladking 11-Jan-18 15:39
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 212 Audrey 11-Jan-18 02:26
Re: UBW/nt 189 Thunderbird 11-Jan-18 03:25
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 239 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:52
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 188 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 184 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:00
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 192 Thunderbird 02-Jan-18 21:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 189 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 21:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 247 Aine 02-Jan-18 22:59
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 218 Vanya 03-Jan-18 16:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 225 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:01
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 199 Vanya 03-Jan-18 19:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 246 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 03:14
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 207 Audrey 02-Jan-18 06:05
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 194 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 311 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 13:05
Re: Directed Panspermia 234 Thunderbird 04-Jan-18 03:11
Re: Directed Panspermia 205 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:27
Re: Directed Panspermia 182 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 19:58
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 288 cladking 31-Dec-17 15:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 186 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 17:37
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 188 cladking 02-Jan-18 03:38
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 176 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 03:58
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 164 cladking 02-Jan-18 04:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 158 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 04:33
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 155 cladking 02-Jan-18 04:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 173 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 05:00
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 194 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:10
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 157 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 205 Aine 01-Jan-18 02:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 227 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:56
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 292 Aine 01-Jan-18 03:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 190 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 08:09
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 179 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 09:37
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 212 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 17:17
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 204 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 17:28
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 196 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 17:41
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 188 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:17
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 169 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 17:57
It's impossible 180 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 21:58
Re: It's impossible 190 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 22:22
Re: It's impossible 229 Audrey 01-Jan-18 22:40
Re: It's impossible 178 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 23:32
Re: It's impossible 204 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:42
Re: It's impossible 210 Eddie Larry 01-Jan-18 23:02
Re: It's impossible 192 brett z 01-Jan-18 23:57
Re: It's impossible 191 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 00:15
anthropic principle 270 brett z 02-Jan-18 00:21
Re: anthropic principle 203 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 04:44
Re: anthropic principle 220 brett z 02-Jan-18 12:16
What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 284 Vanya 02-Jan-18 16:19
Re: What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 181 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 197 Vanya 02-Jan-18 17:14
Re: It's impossible 202 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:46
Re: It's impossible 209 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 15:40
Re: It's impossible 200 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 16:47
Re: It's impossible 198 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 17:44
Re: It's impossible 207 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:50
Re: It's impossible 152 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 18:04
Re: It's impossible 210 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:07
Re: It's impossible 188 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 23:20
Re: It's impossible 152 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:23
Re: It's impossible 154 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:05
Re: It's impossible 161 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 23:30
Re: It's impossible 199 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:25
Re: It's impossible 257 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 10:12
Re: It's impossible 187 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:36
Re: It's impossible 234 cladking 03-Jan-18 15:28
Re: It's impossible 173 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 04:57
Re: It's impossible 147 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:39
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 236 Audrey 01-Jan-18 21:00
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 244 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 21:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 177 Audrey 01-Jan-18 22:38
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 229 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 23:26
Re: Bioplasma 181 Thunderbird 04-Jan-18 03:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 247 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 10:40
Laugh or cry? 252 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 13:00
Re: Laugh or cry? 279 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 14:21
About time for you to learn about atheism 208 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 17:20
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 206 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 18:03
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 259 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:21
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 242 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:52
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 231 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 227 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:54
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 210 Jon Ellison 02-Jan-18 08:23
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 223 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 08:29
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 203 Jon Ellison 02-Jan-18 09:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 218 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 262 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-17 15:39
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 296 eli stills 31-Dec-17 16:56
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 267 cladking 31-Dec-17 17:59
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 265 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 18:23
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 227 cladking 31-Dec-17 19:49
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 262 magisterchessmutt 31-Dec-17 20:56
But I lack the pictures! n/t 258 cladking 31-Dec-17 21:25
My interpretation 237 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:35
Re: My interpretation 247 Aine 01-Jan-18 02:46
not to me 263 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 222 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 267 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 05:38
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 202 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 174 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 06:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 183 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 23:12
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Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 163 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 194 eli stills 01-Jan-18 20:34
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 169 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 20:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 207 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 214 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 02:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 297 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 05:44
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 179 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 05:50
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 208 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 210 eli stills 02-Jan-18 16:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 194 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 196 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 16:53
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 225 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 18:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 268 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 21:42
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 175 eli stills 03-Jan-18 02:47
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 213 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 23:07
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 194 eli stills 04-Jan-18 02:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 158 Origyptian 04-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 191 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 06:01
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 228 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 236 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 19:17
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 200 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:22
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 173 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 23:25
Kerala 2016 204 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 21:43
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and Back to Nigeria 2017 177 Poster Boy 04-Jan-18 05:43
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Medjugorje - May 2010 181 Poster Boy 06-Jan-18 19:25
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See ya, Phil 201 Poster Boy 07-Jan-18 22:31
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Proselytizing: Not 239 Poster Boy 09-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Proselytizing: Not 248 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 04:08
Re: Proselytizing: Not 251 Poster Boy 09-Jan-18 05:05
Re: Proselytizing: Not 217 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 14:05
Re: Proselytizing: Not 248 Susan Doris 09-Jan-18 14:41
13-Year Inquiry 175 Poster Boy 07-Jan-18 03:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 176 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 19:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 159 Poster Boy 07-Jan-18 19:20
Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 242 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 20:02
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Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 191 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 22:28
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 174 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 205 Poster Boy 04-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 215 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 00:58
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 185 eli stills 02-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 200 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:07
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 221 eli stills 02-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 217 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 16:46
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 223 Thunderbird 01-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 213 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 260 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 224 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 249 Aine 02-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 213 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 01:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 254 eli stills 02-Jan-18 17:19
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 220 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 221 eyeofhorus33 02-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 210 eli stills 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 eli stills 01-Jan-18 20:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 168 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 296 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 03:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 281 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:23
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 241 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 06:45
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 241 eli stills 01-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 257 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 19:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 248 MichaelG 02-Jan-18 17:18
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 270 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 190 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 258 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:33
Genes Drive "Evolution". 244 cladking 03-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 157 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:26
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 207 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 254 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 198 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 231 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 07:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 199 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 231 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:56
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 197 cladking 03-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 236 Aine 03-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 243 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 208 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:55
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 192 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 217 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 21:12
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 217 Aine 03-Jan-18 23:30
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 204 cladking 04-Jan-18 00:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 195 Archaic 04-Jan-18 02:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 195 cladking 04-Jan-18 03:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 232 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 228 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 15:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 230 Aine 04-Jan-18 15:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 247 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 220 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 218 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 179 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 207 cladking 06-Jan-18 18:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 191 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 12:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 185 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:28
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 153 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 210 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 16:53
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 184 cladking 08-Jan-18 19:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 183 cladking 08-Jan-18 14:59
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 225 cladking 04-Jan-18 15:39
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 222 Vanya 04-Jan-18 16:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 218 cladking 04-Jan-18 17:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 268 Vanya 04-Jan-18 18:05
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 279 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 18:11
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 222 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 205 Vanya 06-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 187 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 05:29
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 188 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 206 cladking 06-Jan-18 17:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 129 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 205 cladking 07-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 198 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 155 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:25
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 150 Audrey 08-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 202 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 137 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 207 cladking 03-Jan-18 21:03
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 251 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 19:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 216 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 233 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 18:38
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 235 cladking 04-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 213 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:22
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 203 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:45
Design makes sense 231 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Design makes sense 264 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:59
Re: Design makes sense 198 brett z 02-Jan-18 20:03
Re: Design makes sense 220 Aine 02-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Design makes sense 194 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Design makes sense 228 Aine 03-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Design makes sense 218 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 06:05
Plans and the structure of behavior 284 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 09:09
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 210 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 09:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 225 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:26
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 221 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 161 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 12:38
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 190 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 14:40
Executive Subroutines 191 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Executive Subroutines 194 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Executive Subroutines 215 cladking 06-Jan-18 01:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 193 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:34
Re: Executive Subroutines 181 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 183 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:23
Re: Executive Subroutines 189 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:25
Re: Executive Subroutines 181 cladking 07-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 171 Audrey 07-Jan-18 04:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 186 cladking 07-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Executive Subroutines 212 Audrey 08-Jan-18 03:03
Re: Executive Subroutines 161 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Executive Subroutines 169 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 05:45
Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 176 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 06:28
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 209 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:36
Not a great start 199 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 10:32
Re: Not a great start 259 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 190 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 196 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 248 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 09:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 189 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:56
Re: Executive Subroutines 196 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 270 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 07:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 132 cladking 07-Jan-18 14:29
Re: Executive Subroutines 244 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 14:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 170 cladking 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Executive Subroutines 206 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 17:54
Re: Executive Subroutines 168 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Executive Subroutines 193 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:52
Re: Executive Subroutines 197 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 202 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 240 cladking 08-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 256 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 06:11
Re: Executive Subroutines 241 cladking 21-Jan-18 02:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 203 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 13:17
Re: Executive Subroutines 233 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Executive Subroutines 203 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 153 cladking 08-Jan-18 17:05
Re: Executive Subroutines 226 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 180 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 189 Eddie Larry 06-Jan-18 15:52
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 203 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 219 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 240 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:47
If you really want to know 183 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 04:04
Re: If you really want to know 195 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:51
Re: If you really want to know 191 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:07
Re: Design makes sense 261 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 00:15
Re: Design makes sense 199 cladking 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Design makes sense 239 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:34
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 248 Vanya 02-Jan-18 20:13
Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 225 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 20:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 238 Aine 02-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 215 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 209 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 216 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 01:24
IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 310 Vanya 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 185 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:03
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 267 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 17:43
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 215 Vanya 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 210 Vanya 04-Jan-18 13:13
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 172 Poster Boy 04-Jan-18 20:22
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 284 Vanya 05-Jan-18 09:15
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 192 Poster Boy 05-Jan-18 20:06
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 301 Vanya 06-Jan-18 14:17
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 163 Poster Boy 06-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 209 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 227 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 14:27
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 236 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 184 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 229 cloister 03-Jan-18 22:14
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 252 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:13
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 278 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 151 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 234 gulsbo 06-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 171 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 04:48
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 243 gulsbo 08-Jan-18 20:45
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 193 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 21:44
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 254 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 205 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:53
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 227 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 214 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 19:13
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 141 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:33
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 178 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 215 cladking 11-Jan-18 01:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 206 cladking 08-Jan-18 20:20
2 points 241 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:33
Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 271 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 187 Warwick 10-Jan-18 20:58
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 218 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 191 MichaelG 17-Jan-18 18:26
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 194 cladking 17-Jan-18 18:42
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 196 Audrey 17-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 286 Warwick 17-Jan-18 23:52


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