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Poster Boy wrote:

1 - Your answer to my a.m. post:
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More generally, did it become no longer correct to say that evolution is entirely random from the moment we commenced with the first genetic manipulation of anything?

I'm not being rhetorical here, just asking.

2. Referring to this yur post answering to Aine, of which here below is a quote:

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But the basic idea I am getting at involves the very first genetic manipulation of a living species or human - if the term 'mutation' applies to such activity - by us. Once that is done, it no longer seems that we can say that all mutations are random, due to our own precedent.

More generally, I'm wondering what you think of the idea that this may have been done to our species in a distant time, a kind of Stichen thing. It seems to me that this idea has been given some attention.

Hi Mark (if I'm right remembering your name),

I'm sorry if I come back again to the question of the meaning of words, but in this delicate and important context
they, the menings, are of utmost importance to well understand each other.

Advise: this post will be a bit long one and so if you like to have patience to read it till the end,
I thank you in advance for that.

RANDOM: This is a quite complicate concept and meaning, so in order to not disperse into complexed descriptions,
I choose this one which IMHO is the most useful to understand that concept:
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Randomness is the lack of pattern or predictability in events. A random sequence of events, symbols or steps
has no order and does not follow an intelligible pattern or combination.

Random selection, when narrowly associated with a simple random sample, is a method of selecting items (often
called units) from a population where the probability of choosing a specific item is the proportion of those
items in the population. For example, with a bowl containing just 10 red marbles and 90 blue marbles, a
random selection mechanism would choose a red marble with probability 1/10. Note that a random selection
mechanism that selected 10 marbles from this bowl would not necessarily result in 1 red and 9 blue. In
situations where a population consists of items that are distinguishable, a random selection mechanism
requires equal probabilities for any item to be chosen.

That is, if the selection process is such that each member of a population, of say research subjects, has the
same probability of being chosen then we can say the selection process is random.

I choose the "random sample" cause I spent over 10 years during my working life in a Supervising Company, the
biggest in the world, which main task was to collect "Significative sample" of big trading merchandises goods,
like wheat, barley,soya beans crude oil, minerals, all kind of edible vegetal oils.

Can you imagine to certify the "exact quality" of 60.000 Tons and more of wheat, or barley or edible vegetable oils,
how accurate and complicate is,the speedy sampling process that was need to carry on during loading or
discharging operation from a merchant ships ?

The exact quality of the sampled goods were strictly connette with this principle:

" IF " for example wheat, are formed of high percentage (for instance 70%) of good wheat, this will result
in a sample analysis of about half or maximum 1 kilogram of finalized sample, from which in order to be analyze
in laboratory the percentage of contained gluten, less than 100 grams were more than sufficient.
The result confirmed the good quality of the wheat.

Of course IF the wheat was of poor quality, (for example 40%) the result will give the result
conformed the poorest quality of wheat.

According to the above mentionned IF conditions whe will have the " THEN " result

I state all what above to focus the question of "RANDOM" into the term of IF i.e. the unknow and
unpredictable quality of wheat (or other goods) subjet to finalize a conclusion of trading contract related to
Buy / Selling, which prices and other contractual clause - the "THEN " result: payment of the loaded
and shipped goods (or the unloaded and received goods).

Apart of the quality there are also the problem of the weight: how exatly could be determine the correct
cjarged or discharged weight ?

This is also subject to the IF and in consequence the THEN: let continue with wheat, as example

IF the delivery were performed using trucks, "weigh bridge" of the Sea Port in a good condition (and we also verified it)
weighing the empty trucks and re-weighing the same ,laded trucks, we will have the correct delivered weight of the goods (wheat)

If the delivery were performed using Silos pneumatic systems, we verify that all the weigh scales of the pneumatic
system were in proper order: then reading the data of the scales we will have the correct weight.

But ... IF ... we do not verify and the "weigh bridge" or Silos scale system were not in goo condition, THEN
we would not have the correct delivered weight.

I used such examples because in Nature the Random principle is strictly conneccted with the IF .... THEN
situation.

As may you well know Computer and electronic (just in a poor and simple words) are based on the condition of
0 or 1 which was determining IF it is 0.... THEN the result is A (of course for a mery silly examples),
IF it is 1 THEN the result is B.

And so on with 2, 4 , 8 , 16, 32, 64 etc.... Bit composed of 0 and 1

Nowadays electronic evolved but the base is always made on the condition of IF ..... THEN, but the
evolution (development ?!?) of electronic-digital sequnced program are composed by:

IF plus some detailed postulate which in turn determine THEN with many detailed results, according
to mathematical calculations.

All what above we called and identify as "algorithms".

WELL.... can you imagine to apply the IF... THEN principle on our physical world starting since the beginning of its esistence ? and also to the beginning of the life on it ?

Let me try: we know that he life on Earth is possible because our planet has the right condition to
support and maintain it.

BUT....

IF the Earth would not have the "right conditions" to start and support, THEN we would not have the life on it.

IF the Earth would not have the right conditions THEN it will be not in the actual position, in which is now, into our Solar System.

And so on, so on .......

After above long dissertation about the IF and THEN, IMHO we can achieve following links between different
words and therefore concepts:

IF along with AND / OR: is a CONDITION which can be defined as the "BEGINNING OF A RANDOM EVENT"
(AND / OR can be figured in complicate sequences as an ALGORITHM).

THEN along with AND / OR : are the "CONSEQUENCES OF THE HAPPENED CONDITION"
(AND / OR can be figured in complicate sequences as an ALGORITHM).

We can say, following these considerations, which are based on Facts (see the example of samplings), that
in Biology the THEN along with AND can be identified as MUTATION, word which means:
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In biology, a mutation is the permanent alteration of the nucleotide sequence of the genome of an organism,
virus, or extrachromosomal DNA or other genetic elements.

while OR can be identified as EVOLUITION, word which means:
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Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.[1]
Evolutionary processes give rise to biodiversity at every level of biological organisation, including the
levels of species, individual organisms, and molecules.

Examining now the question of Human Manipulation (i.e. modification of the enviroment and beings on our planet)
I think that being us, Human Being, part of the Nature of this Planet on which we live, doing manipulations
atc, perfectly match with the CONDITIONS .. i.e. the "IF":

IF we will have not developped the knowledge we have reached today, THEN we would not have been able to do such manipulations etc.

That's why, IMHO, the RANDOM EEVENTS are at the base of evry CONSEQUENCES we can see today around us.

The IF..... THEN concept and point of view, IMHO of course, can facilitate the comprehension and
discoveries of many and many things and forces of which we do not are aware yet.

That is what I personally define: ALL WAS IS CLOSE, AROUND AND BEYOND US IS DUE AND MADE ONLY BY THE UNIVERSE
(i.e. systems in which forces works).

Concluding: NOT an "INTELLIGENT DESIGN", but just what UNIVERS IS.

Nice and Bright Day

Ivano

NOTE:
I'm perfectly aware that (may be) some will take the IF ... THEN as a proof of "Intelligent Design"......
but I'm also perfectly aware that Beliefs do not have any border.......

Edited to add the source of RANDOM - MUTATION- EVOLUTION words and concepts:

RANDOM: [en.wikipedia.org]
MUTATION: [en.wikipedia.org]
EVOLUTION: [en.wikipedia.org]

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You can not solve a problem with the same kind of thinking that you used to create it.
A.Einstein



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03-Jan-18 16:53 by Vanya.

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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 236 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:00
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 244 Vanya 03-Jan-18 19:18
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 256 Audrey 02-Jan-18 06:05
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 370 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 13:05
Re: Directed Panspermia 292 Thunderbird 04-Jan-18 03:11
Re: Directed Panspermia 252 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:27
Re: Directed Panspermia 247 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 19:58
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 349 cladking 31-Dec-17 15:19
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 241 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:10
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 231 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 262 Aine 01-Jan-18 02:49
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 342 Aine 01-Jan-18 03:49
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 273 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 17:17
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It's impossible 224 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 21:58
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Re: It's impossible 275 Audrey 01-Jan-18 22:40
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Re: What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 277 Vanya 02-Jan-18 17:14
Re: It's impossible 251 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:46
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Re: It's impossible 213 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:39
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 284 Audrey 01-Jan-18 21:00
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 331 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 10:40
Laugh or cry? 303 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 13:00
Re: Laugh or cry? 327 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 14:21
About time for you to learn about atheism 256 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 17:20
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 251 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 18:03
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 309 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:21
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Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 334 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-17 15:39
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Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 329 cladking 31-Dec-17 17:59
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 321 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 18:23
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 301 cladking 31-Dec-17 19:49
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 327 magisterchessmutt 31-Dec-17 20:56
But I lack the pictures! n/t 320 cladking 31-Dec-17 21:25
My interpretation 284 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:35
Re: My interpretation 318 Aine 01-Jan-18 02:46
not to me 336 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:54
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Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 254 eli stills 01-Jan-18 20:34
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Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 257 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 01:26
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Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 263 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 260 eli stills 02-Jan-18 16:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 267 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 263 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 16:53
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 312 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 18:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 359 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 21:42
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 224 eli stills 03-Jan-18 02:47
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Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 239 eli stills 04-Jan-18 02:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 208 Origyptian 04-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 254 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 06:01
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 303 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:06
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Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 285 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:22
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Kerala 2016 282 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 21:43
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and Back to Nigeria 2017 233 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 05:43
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See ya, Phil 283 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 22:31
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Proselytizing: Not 289 PB Bytes 09-Jan-18 01:26
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Re: Proselytizing: Not 312 PB Bytes 09-Jan-18 05:05
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Re: Proselytizing: Not 313 Susan Doris 09-Jan-18 14:41
13-Year Inquiry 235 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 03:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 240 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 19:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 207 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 19:20
Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 316 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 20:02
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 279 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 236 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 22:28
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Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 265 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 277 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 00:58
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 250 eli stills 02-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 273 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:07
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 287 eli stills 02-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 291 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 16:46
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 286 Thunderbird 01-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 286 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 307 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 288 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 315 Aine 02-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 294 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 01:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 332 eli stills 02-Jan-18 17:19
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 289 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 270 eyeofhorus33 02-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 278 eli stills 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 315 eli stills 01-Jan-18 20:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 244 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 348 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 03:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 338 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:23
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 287 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 06:45
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 301 eli stills 01-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 312 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 19:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 319 MichaelG 02-Jan-18 17:18
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 341 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 263 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 328 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:33
Genes Drive "Evolution". 301 cladking 03-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 210 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:26
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 285 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 304 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 246 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 283 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 07:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 283 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 307 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:56
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 261 cladking 03-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 340 Aine 03-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 305 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 261 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:55
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 240 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 265 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 21:12
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 297 Aine 03-Jan-18 23:30
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 264 cladking 04-Jan-18 00:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 250 Archaic 04-Jan-18 02:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 280 cladking 04-Jan-18 03:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 296 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 304 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 15:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 294 Aine 04-Jan-18 15:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 301 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 286 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 271 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 252 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 262 cladking 06-Jan-18 18:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 274 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 12:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 251 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:28
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 249 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 277 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 16:53
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 235 cladking 08-Jan-18 19:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 246 cladking 08-Jan-18 14:59
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 285 cladking 04-Jan-18 15:39
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 280 Vanya 04-Jan-18 16:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 294 cladking 04-Jan-18 17:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 316 Vanya 04-Jan-18 18:05
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 341 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 18:11
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 277 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 248 Vanya 06-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 283 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 05:29
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 242 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 260 cladking 06-Jan-18 17:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 200 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 292 cladking 07-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 242 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 248 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:25
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 218 Audrey 08-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 258 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 186 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 271 cladking 03-Jan-18 21:03
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 308 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 19:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 292 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 316 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 18:38
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 304 cladking 04-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 260 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:22
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 260 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:45
Design makes sense 282 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Design makes sense 325 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:59
Re: Design makes sense 242 brett z 02-Jan-18 20:03
Re: Design makes sense 283 Aine 02-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Design makes sense 273 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Design makes sense 299 Aine 03-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Design makes sense 293 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 06:05
Plans and the structure of behavior 382 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 09:09
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 260 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 09:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 298 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:26
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 285 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 244 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 12:38
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 253 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 14:40
Executive Subroutines 254 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Executive Subroutines 255 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Executive Subroutines 266 cladking 06-Jan-18 01:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 241 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:34
Re: Executive Subroutines 239 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 255 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:23
Re: Executive Subroutines 242 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:25
Re: Executive Subroutines 232 cladking 07-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 241 Audrey 07-Jan-18 04:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 237 cladking 07-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Executive Subroutines 307 Audrey 08-Jan-18 03:03
Re: Executive Subroutines 230 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Executive Subroutines 243 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 05:45
Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 228 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 06:28
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 261 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:36
Not a great start 269 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 10:32
Re: Not a great start 328 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 252 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 268 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 309 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 09:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 252 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:56
Re: Executive Subroutines 272 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 367 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 07:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 179 cladking 07-Jan-18 14:29
Re: Executive Subroutines 311 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 14:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 225 cladking 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Executive Subroutines 251 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 17:54
Re: Executive Subroutines 226 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Executive Subroutines 265 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:52
Re: Executive Subroutines 248 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 287 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 328 cladking 08-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 308 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 06:11
Re: Executive Subroutines 303 cladking 21-Jan-18 02:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 289 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 13:17
Re: Executive Subroutines 293 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Executive Subroutines 251 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 227 cladking 08-Jan-18 17:05
Re: Executive Subroutines 300 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 226 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 261 Eddie Larry 06-Jan-18 15:52
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 257 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 281 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 311 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:47
If you really want to know 228 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 04:04
Re: If you really want to know 249 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:51
Re: If you really want to know 246 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:07
Re: Design makes sense 334 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 00:15
Re: Design makes sense 266 cladking 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Design makes sense 311 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:34
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 314 Vanya 02-Jan-18 20:13
Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 307 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 20:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 300 Aine 02-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 313 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 261 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 302 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 01:24
IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 375 Vanya 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 246 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:03
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 339 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 17:43
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 270 Vanya 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 282 Vanya 04-Jan-18 13:13
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 223 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 20:22
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 356 Vanya 05-Jan-18 09:15
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 278 PB Bytes 05-Jan-18 20:06
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 388 Vanya 06-Jan-18 14:17
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 235 PB Bytes 06-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 274 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 271 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 14:27
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 323 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 234 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 314 cloister 03-Jan-18 22:14
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 311 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:13
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 330 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 227 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 302 gulsbo 06-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 243 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 04:48
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 343 gulsbo 08-Jan-18 20:45
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 266 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 21:44
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 328 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 275 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:53
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 279 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 289 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 19:13
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 207 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:33
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 231 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 282 cladking 11-Jan-18 01:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 253 cladking 08-Jan-18 20:20
2 points 295 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:33
Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 331 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 249 Warwick 10-Jan-18 20:58
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 285 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 272 MichaelG 17-Jan-18 18:26
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 269 cladking 17-Jan-18 18:42
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 244 Audrey 17-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 375 Warwick 17-Jan-18 23:52


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