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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Aine Wrote:
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> > What violation? See Gibbs free energy, not
> > negative entropy.
>
> It's hard to get too serious about such things,
> but it's fun to muse about them, and it brings me
> back to my hippy days...
>
> Where does that enthalpy come from? The Sun? Where
> did the Sun get its energy? Someone or something
> had to load the gun in the first place. Gibbs
> energy only exists because the energy initially
> was inserted into the system, right? So where does
> the energy come from and how was it able to defeat
> the entropic tendency?

That's a question for Jonny, but the amount of energy in the universe is constant. The sun generates heat via nuclear reactions, which radiates to Earth. Plants and bacteria utilize the photons for photosynthesis, and so on up the food chain.

>
>
> > The second law describes closed systems. Living
> > organisms are open systems. The Earth itself is
> an
> > open system. Also, evolutionary processes take
> > place over very long periods of time. Show me
> the
> > equation that demonstrates that living
> organisms
> > are in violation of any of the laws of
> > thermodynamics.
>
> "Closed" and "open" systems are relative to the
> context at hand. And in a sense there is no truly
> closed system as long as it exists with other
> 'systems' in the same universe. I know of no known
> principle that allows any such "closed" systems to
> be guaranteed separation from any other system
> vis a vis the laws of physics. The notion
> of a truly "closed system" strikes me more as a
> thought experiment than anything real we can point
> to.
>
> It's not even clear to me that the universe as we
> know it, as a singular closed system truly follows
> the law of entropy. While it's possible for one to
> argue that the Big Bang is time zero on the
> entropy clock, one could also argue that the Big
> Bang is the second half of a Big Oscillation which
> includes a Big Implosion phase too, and once the
> universe compacts back to infinitesimally small as
> a result of the Big Implosion phase, it may then
> expand again with another Big Bang, etc., etc., so
> we do not know whether the 2nd law actually does
> apply to anything other than the current state of
> the universe.

Correct. But all we're concerned with is the current state of the universe.

But you still haven't demonstrated how any of this violates the laws. You're questioning the laws themselves.

> Likewise for the timescale of the energy exchange.
> Living systems represent an eddy current of a net
> acquisition of energy and organization in an
> apparent violation of the 2nd Law.

How?

You can create
> a "closed" system by including the entire solar
> system. Sure, eventually each living organism will
> succumb to the 2nd law, but they violate that law
> during their acquisition phase, and they do so
> quite consistently in an effort to preserve the
> species.

Again, how?

>
> I'd like to see the equation that plausibly
> explains how
> t
> his
can slowly develop through random
> coincidence in the midst of the laws of
> thermodynamics and statistical probability.
>
>
> > Also, if the 2nd law was violated, we'd never
> get
> > old and we'd never die.
>
> I certainly don't claim that the violation of the
> 2nd law is permanent for a given organism. But the
> law does continue to be violated as the
> population continues to expand. How
> is it possible for Nature to expend that energy,
> and why is it advantageous for Nature to do so?

That's easy. There's no better way to expend that energy than by reproducing.


> > Organisms live at
> > near-maximum thermodynamic efficiency (some
> more
> > so than others), but in the end, there is no
> > violation of the laws of thermodynamics.
>
> Again, "in the end" is a catch-all way to
> reconcile the law, but it doesn't account for the
> short-term and consistent reversal in entropy
> during the lifetime of a species, genus, or
> phylum, etc. Simply put, DNA is designed from the
> bottom up to counter entropy long after its
> procreative processes have been spent.

Why do you think DNA is some kind of designer drug? It's a nucleic acid, not some mystery substance.

And some
> species have been doing that for many millions of
> years. How is that the result of random mass and
> energy interactions? The video in the above link
> mainly depicts the high order coiling of DNA after
> it's been replicated. Very little is available
> regarding the physical process of replication, and
> I suspect that's because the unzipping a 6 mile
> length of rope that's been completely reduced to a
> 6-degree coil is basically impossible to
> comprehend, let alone explain.

Actually, just in the last week or two there was something about capturing DNA in the act of replicating. I'll see if I can find it.

> > And there is now evidence that life itself is
> an
> > unavoidable product of the laws of
> thermodynamics.
> > It's good stuff and they are in the process of
> > testing it.


> Not so much "unavoidable" as much as "easily
> accommodated". The study is based on computer
> modeling which means many assumptions are made
> regarding the principles at play. It's reminiscent
> of Sydney Fox' primordial ooze which generated
> organic molecules when charged with an electric
> current.
>
> On the other hand, if you're suggesting that life
> (and the negative entropy it produces) is simply a
> short-term phase in the dissipation of energy from
> the Sun, I certainly would allow that possibility.
> But it's far less clear that the dissipation of
> solar energy can accidentally produce DNA's
> resilience, redundancy, self-repair,
> self-reproduction, and widespread occurrence on
> the surface of the planet, let alone the 6-degree
> helical windings and unzipping that's presented in
> the above youtube link.

Who said the dun caused it? That's really stretching things a bit, don't you think?

Has it occured to you that perhaps DNA itself evolved, and the relationship between RNA, DNA and proteins co-evolved? I doubt very much that DNA was the first agent of heredity.


> > Against the odds complexity? I knew we'd get
> into
> > that eventually. However, what are the odds of
> a
> > supernatural creator (and make no mistake,
> that's
> > what ID is about) actually existing?
>
> Why categorize it as "supernatural"? What do we
> think we know that allows us to make such a claim?
> I prefer "super-unknowable" which seems far more
> likely, considering the limits of those 3 pounds
> of water, fat, and protein that we depend on
> between our ears to contemplate such vast things.
>

Whatever you want to call it, then. What makes it more likely than the alternative?


> > Now, against the odds doesn't mean impossible
> > (because the probability never reaches zero).
> Show
> > me the math that states that a supernatural
> agent
> > is more possible than not.
>
> You're currect that it's a statistical argument,
> and the odds are infinitesimally tiny. I base that
> assessment on the 2nd Law, our inability to
> adequately define life, our inability to find life
> (so far) anywhere else than the few mile thick
> surface of our own planet, and the fact that life
> exists at all.

Why?

Here's another possibility: life is an immutable property of the universe. And another: the universe itself is evolving, and life is simply the next step.


> > > As was previously mentioned, if a non-random
> > > 'intelligence' is responsible for setting up
> the
> > > design, what created that 'intelligence'?
> >
> > Passing the buck fallacy. It fails to apply the
> > same rules to the problem when it comes to God.
> > And then you're back to infinite regression.
> >
> > In short, it solves nothing.
>
> Not sure what you mean by that. It's not passing
> the buck, it's allowing the logical reiterative
> paradigm to those who believe the universe is
> indeed infinite. Almost by definition, it's
> passing the buck to claim that the universe is
> infinite in space and time.

I didn't claim that space and time are infinite.

It's passing the buck to claim (as IDers and creationists do) that life on Earth MUST have been created, but God is subject to special rules exempting him from that question, and wasn't designed or created. It's more special pleading, but passing the buck does apply.


>
> What rules apply to God? And if God
> is "intelligent", where did that intelligence come
> from? Is God getting smarter? Is God subject to
> the laws of thermodynamics? Does God follow the
> laws of statistics?

Wouldn't we all love to know that. LOL In If he designed and created it, why wouldn't he be subject to it himself?

The problem with ID is that it doesn't set out any rules or parameters for their as yet nameless intelligent designer. Even magic has clearly delineated limitations.


> If the laws of physics don't apply to God,
> how do we account for God!

And therein lies the rub!

In the spring, at the end of the day, you should smell like earth. ~ Margaret Atwood



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Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 402 rodz111 21-Jan-18 15:52
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Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 480 Aine 29-Dec-17 23:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 375 M. J. Thomas 30-Dec-17 11:12
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 406 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 13:10
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 372 Aine 30-Dec-17 14:47
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 329 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 17:41
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 362 Aine 30-Dec-17 17:57
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 368 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-17 18:18
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 326 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 18:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 378 M. J. Thomas 30-Dec-17 20:52
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 359 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-17 21:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 289 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 328 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-17 23:35
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 411 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 05:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 273 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 19:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 303 cladking 30-Dec-17 19:11
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 346 Vanya 30-Dec-17 14:04
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 298 MichaelG 08-Jan-18 18:46
Ongoing multidisciplinary studies across academia . . . 399 Reagent 30-Dec-17 02:49
Re: Ongoing multidisciplinary studies across academia . . . 288 MichaelG 08-Jan-18 19:52
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 411 Thunderbird 30-Dec-17 04:16
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 342 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 13:16
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 345 Thunderbird 31-Dec-17 18:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 323 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 235 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 425 Vanya 30-Dec-17 14:25
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 318 Aine 30-Dec-17 14:48
Not necessarily Christian 333 drrayeye 30-Dec-17 22:26
Re: Not necessarily Christian 329 Vanya 31-Dec-17 09:06
Re: Not necessarily Christian 274 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 03:48
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 311 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 16:59
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 302 brett z 31-Dec-17 17:16
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 279 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:37
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 283 brett z 31-Dec-17 23:22
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 283 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 07:53
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 260 brett z 01-Jan-18 19:17
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 264 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 245 brett z 01-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 285 Aine 31-Dec-17 17:46
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 322 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 18:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 293 Aine 31-Dec-17 19:23
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 307 Aine 31-Dec-17 19:31
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Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 309 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 305 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 225 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 255 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:13
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 296 drrayeye 31-Dec-17 12:57
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 290 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 14:27
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 310 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 15:56
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 276 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:15
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 312 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:06
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 218 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 08:05
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 280 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 01:59
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 273 brett z 01-Jan-18 02:08
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 318 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:11
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 266 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 07:59
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 297 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 10:32
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 282 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 17:25
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 324 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 18:29
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 283 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:54
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 326 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 05:15
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 360 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:06
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 380 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 21:09
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 273 Aine 02-Jan-18 22:55
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 316 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 14:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 304 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 15:05
entropy 284 brett z 03-Jan-18 15:45
Re: entropy 299 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 16:22
Re: entropy 292 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:56
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 290 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:45
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 221 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:26
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 298 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 317 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 17:07
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 269 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:16
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 221 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 21:26
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 244 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 252 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 16:55
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 238 cladking 06-Jan-18 20:06
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 311 Thunderbird 06-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 241 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 17:05
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Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 285 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:56
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Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 296 Susan Doris 10-Jan-18 07:40
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Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 286 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 18:57
Re: Masonic History 265 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:03
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Re: Masonic History 266 Susan Doris 11-Jan-18 06:35
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Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 211 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:00
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Re: UBW/nt 254 Thunderbird 11-Jan-18 03:25
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 294 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:52
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 239 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 234 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:00
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 237 Thunderbird 02-Jan-18 21:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 247 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 21:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 315 Aine 02-Jan-18 22:59
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 291 Vanya 03-Jan-18 16:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 273 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:01
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 242 Vanya 03-Jan-18 19:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 309 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 03:14
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 253 Audrey 02-Jan-18 06:05
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 248 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 365 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 13:05
Re: Directed Panspermia 290 Thunderbird 04-Jan-18 03:11
Re: Directed Panspermia 249 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:27
Re: Directed Panspermia 245 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 19:58
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 340 cladking 31-Dec-17 15:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 239 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 17:37
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 198 cladking 02-Jan-18 04:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 232 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 05:00
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 237 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:10
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 229 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 Aine 01-Jan-18 02:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 273 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:56
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 339 Aine 01-Jan-18 03:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 241 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 08:09
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 245 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 09:37
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 271 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 17:17
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 263 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 17:28
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 242 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 17:41
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 245 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:17
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 224 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 17:57
It's impossible 222 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 21:58
Re: It's impossible 236 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 22:22
Re: It's impossible 273 Audrey 01-Jan-18 22:40
Re: It's impossible 222 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 23:32
Re: It's impossible 247 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:42
Re: It's impossible 280 Eddie Larry 01-Jan-18 23:02
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Re: It's impossible 254 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 00:15
anthropic principle 367 brett z 02-Jan-18 00:21
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What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 376 Vanya 02-Jan-18 16:19
Re: What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 238 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 275 Vanya 02-Jan-18 17:14
Re: It's impossible 248 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:46
Re: It's impossible 263 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 15:40
Re: It's impossible 287 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 16:47
Re: It's impossible 247 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 17:44
Re: It's impossible 256 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:50
Re: It's impossible 232 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 18:04
Re: It's impossible 252 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:07
Re: It's impossible 233 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 23:20
Re: It's impossible 209 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:23
Re: It's impossible 202 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:05
Re: It's impossible 236 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 23:30
Re: It's impossible 251 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:25
Re: It's impossible 311 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 10:12
Re: It's impossible 246 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:36
Re: It's impossible 293 cladking 03-Jan-18 15:28
Re: It's impossible 216 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 04:57
Re: It's impossible 210 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:39
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 280 Audrey 01-Jan-18 21:00
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 217 Audrey 01-Jan-18 22:38
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Re: Bioplasma 228 Thunderbird 04-Jan-18 03:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 325 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 10:40
Laugh or cry? 299 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 13:00
Re: Laugh or cry? 325 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 14:21
About time for you to learn about atheism 254 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 17:20
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 249 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 18:03
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 307 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:21
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 283 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:52
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 283 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 291 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:54
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 285 Jon Ellison 02-Jan-18 08:23
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 247 Jon Ellison 02-Jan-18 09:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 264 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 331 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-17 15:39
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 349 eli stills 31-Dec-17 16:56
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 327 cladking 31-Dec-17 17:59
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 318 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 18:23
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 299 cladking 31-Dec-17 19:49
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 325 magisterchessmutt 31-Dec-17 20:56
But I lack the pictures! n/t 318 cladking 31-Dec-17 21:25
My interpretation 280 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:35
Re: My interpretation 316 Aine 01-Jan-18 02:46
not to me 331 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 270 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 321 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 05:38
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 220 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 06:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 232 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 23:12
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 246 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 00:19
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 250 eli stills 01-Jan-18 18:24
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 211 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 252 eli stills 01-Jan-18 20:34
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 213 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 20:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 253 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 265 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 02:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 381 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 05:44
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 235 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 05:50
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 259 eli stills 02-Jan-18 16:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 266 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 260 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 16:53
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 310 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 18:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 355 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 21:42
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 222 eli stills 03-Jan-18 02:47
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 283 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 23:07
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 237 eli stills 04-Jan-18 02:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 205 Origyptian 04-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 251 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 06:01
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 299 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 299 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 19:17
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 282 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:22
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 250 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 23:25
Kerala 2016 280 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Kerala 2016 237 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:38
Re: Kerala 2016 264 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 00:16
and Back to Nigeria 2017 230 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 05:43
Re: and Back to Nigeria 2017 297 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 16:16
Medjugorje - May 2010 229 PB Bytes 06-Jan-18 19:25
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 267 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 17:56
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 259 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 19:21
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 238 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 03:58
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 193 PB Bytes 08-Jan-18 04:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 218 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 18:49
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 212 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 19:25
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 238 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 238 Eddie Larry 07-Jan-18 20:59
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 230 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 21:18
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 296 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 21:42
See ya, Phil 279 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 22:31
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 259 Eddie Larry 08-Jan-18 06:20
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 230 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 252 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 221 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 21:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 225 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:15
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 231 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 03:02
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 249 PB Bytes 08-Jan-18 03:46
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 305 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 248 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:57
Proselytizing: Not 285 PB Bytes 09-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Proselytizing: Not 297 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 04:08
Re: Proselytizing: Not 309 PB Bytes 09-Jan-18 05:05
Re: Proselytizing: Not 279 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 14:05
Re: Proselytizing: Not 309 Susan Doris 09-Jan-18 14:41
13-Year Inquiry 232 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 03:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 235 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 19:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 205 PB Bytes 07-Jan-18 19:20
Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 311 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 20:02
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 277 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 233 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 22:28
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 248 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 262 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 275 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 00:58
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 248 eli stills 02-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 271 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:07
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 284 eli stills 02-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 288 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 16:46
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 280 Thunderbird 01-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 283 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 304 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 285 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 311 Aine 02-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 291 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 01:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 329 eli stills 02-Jan-18 17:19
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 286 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 268 eyeofhorus33 02-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 273 eli stills 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 313 eli stills 01-Jan-18 20:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 243 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 347 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 03:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 335 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:23
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 285 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 06:45
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 298 eli stills 01-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 309 PB Bytes 01-Jan-18 19:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 317 MichaelG 02-Jan-18 17:18
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 339 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 258 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 326 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:33
Genes Drive "Evolution". 297 cladking 03-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 204 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:26
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 278 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 302 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 244 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 281 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 07:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 280 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 298 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:56
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 258 cladking 03-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 337 Aine 03-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 303 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 259 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:55
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 239 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 263 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 21:12
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 292 Aine 03-Jan-18 23:30
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 261 cladking 04-Jan-18 00:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 247 Archaic 04-Jan-18 02:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 279 cladking 04-Jan-18 03:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 290 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 300 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 15:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 288 Aine 04-Jan-18 15:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 298 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 283 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 266 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 249 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 260 cladking 06-Jan-18 18:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 271 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 12:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 247 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:28
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 246 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 272 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 16:53
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 230 cladking 08-Jan-18 19:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 244 cladking 08-Jan-18 14:59
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 281 cladking 04-Jan-18 15:39
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 278 Vanya 04-Jan-18 16:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 292 cladking 04-Jan-18 17:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 315 Vanya 04-Jan-18 18:05
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 340 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 18:11
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 273 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 246 Vanya 06-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 278 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 05:29
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 238 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 255 cladking 06-Jan-18 17:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 193 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 288 cladking 07-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 240 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 244 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:25
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 217 Audrey 08-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 256 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 184 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 269 cladking 03-Jan-18 21:03
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 304 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 19:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 289 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 310 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 18:38
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 300 cladking 04-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 258 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:22
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 258 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:45
Design makes sense 280 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Design makes sense 322 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:59
Re: Design makes sense 241 brett z 02-Jan-18 20:03
Re: Design makes sense 281 Aine 02-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Design makes sense 270 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Design makes sense 297 Aine 03-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Design makes sense 290 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 06:05
Plans and the structure of behavior 381 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 09:09
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 257 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 09:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 296 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:26
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 284 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 240 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 12:38
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 250 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 14:40
Executive Subroutines 249 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Executive Subroutines 253 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Executive Subroutines 263 cladking 06-Jan-18 01:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 239 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:34
Re: Executive Subroutines 236 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 251 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:23
Re: Executive Subroutines 241 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:25
Re: Executive Subroutines 229 cladking 07-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 237 Audrey 07-Jan-18 04:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 234 cladking 07-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Executive Subroutines 304 Audrey 08-Jan-18 03:03
Re: Executive Subroutines 227 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Executive Subroutines 240 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 05:45
Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 227 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 06:28
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 259 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:36
Not a great start 267 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 10:32
Re: Not a great start 324 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 250 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 265 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 306 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 09:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 247 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:56
Re: Executive Subroutines 268 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 364 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 07:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 176 cladking 07-Jan-18 14:29
Re: Executive Subroutines 307 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 14:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 223 cladking 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Executive Subroutines 249 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 17:54
Re: Executive Subroutines 224 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Executive Subroutines 262 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:52
Re: Executive Subroutines 246 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 285 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 324 cladking 08-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 306 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 06:11
Re: Executive Subroutines 300 cladking 21-Jan-18 02:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 287 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 13:17
Re: Executive Subroutines 290 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Executive Subroutines 248 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 224 cladking 08-Jan-18 17:05
Re: Executive Subroutines 296 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 224 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 259 Eddie Larry 06-Jan-18 15:52
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 255 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 278 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 302 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:47
If you really want to know 225 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 04:04
Re: If you really want to know 244 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:51
Re: If you really want to know 243 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:07
Re: Design makes sense 331 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 00:15
Re: Design makes sense 262 cladking 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Design makes sense 309 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:34
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 310 Vanya 02-Jan-18 20:13
Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 305 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 20:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 297 Aine 02-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 311 PB Bytes 02-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 257 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 298 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 01:24
IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 372 Vanya 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 243 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:03
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 334 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 17:43
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 268 Vanya 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 280 Vanya 04-Jan-18 13:13
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 221 PB Bytes 04-Jan-18 20:22
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 355 Vanya 05-Jan-18 09:15
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 276 PB Bytes 05-Jan-18 20:06
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 385 Vanya 06-Jan-18 14:17
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 233 PB Bytes 06-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 270 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 269 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 14:27
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 319 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 232 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 306 cloister 03-Jan-18 22:14
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 308 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:13
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 328 PB Bytes 03-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 226 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 297 gulsbo 06-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 240 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 04:48
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 336 gulsbo 08-Jan-18 20:45
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 264 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 21:44
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 324 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 274 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:53
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 275 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 285 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 19:13
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 205 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:33
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 226 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 280 cladking 11-Jan-18 01:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 250 cladking 08-Jan-18 20:20
2 points 293 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:33
Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 326 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 243 Warwick 10-Jan-18 20:58
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 281 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 269 MichaelG 17-Jan-18 18:26
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 266 cladking 17-Jan-18 18:42
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 242 Audrey 17-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 371 Warwick 17-Jan-18 23:52


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