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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Aine Wrote:
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> > What violation? See Gibbs free energy, not
> > negative entropy.
>
> It's hard to get too serious about such things,
> but it's fun to muse about them, and it brings me
> back to my hippy days...
>
> Where does that enthalpy come from? The Sun? Where
> did the Sun get its energy? Someone or something
> had to load the gun in the first place. Gibbs
> energy only exists because the energy initially
> was inserted into the system, right? So where does
> the energy come from and how was it able to defeat
> the entropic tendency?

That's a question for Jonny, but the amount of energy in the universe is constant. The sun generates heat via nuclear reactions, which radiates to Earth. Plants and bacteria utilize the photons for photosynthesis, and so on up the food chain.

>
>
> > The second law describes closed systems. Living
> > organisms are open systems. The Earth itself is
> an
> > open system. Also, evolutionary processes take
> > place over very long periods of time. Show me
> the
> > equation that demonstrates that living
> organisms
> > are in violation of any of the laws of
> > thermodynamics.
>
> "Closed" and "open" systems are relative to the
> context at hand. And in a sense there is no truly
> closed system as long as it exists with other
> 'systems' in the same universe. I know of no known
> principle that allows any such "closed" systems to
> be guaranteed separation from any other system
> vis a vis the laws of physics. The notion
> of a truly "closed system" strikes me more as a
> thought experiment than anything real we can point
> to.
>
> It's not even clear to me that the universe as we
> know it, as a singular closed system truly follows
> the law of entropy. While it's possible for one to
> argue that the Big Bang is time zero on the
> entropy clock, one could also argue that the Big
> Bang is the second half of a Big Oscillation which
> includes a Big Implosion phase too, and once the
> universe compacts back to infinitesimally small as
> a result of the Big Implosion phase, it may then
> expand again with another Big Bang, etc., etc., so
> we do not know whether the 2nd law actually does
> apply to anything other than the current state of
> the universe.

Correct. But all we're concerned with is the current state of the universe.

But you still haven't demonstrated how any of this violates the laws. You're questioning the laws themselves.

> Likewise for the timescale of the energy exchange.
> Living systems represent an eddy current of a net
> acquisition of energy and organization in an
> apparent violation of the 2nd Law.

How?

You can create
> a "closed" system by including the entire solar
> system. Sure, eventually each living organism will
> succumb to the 2nd law, but they violate that law
> during their acquisition phase, and they do so
> quite consistently in an effort to preserve the
> species.

Again, how?

>
> I'd like to see the equation that plausibly
> explains how
> t
> his
can slowly develop through random
> coincidence in the midst of the laws of
> thermodynamics and statistical probability.
>
>
> > Also, if the 2nd law was violated, we'd never
> get
> > old and we'd never die.
>
> I certainly don't claim that the violation of the
> 2nd law is permanent for a given organism. But the
> law does continue to be violated as the
> population continues to expand. How
> is it possible for Nature to expend that energy,
> and why is it advantageous for Nature to do so?

That's easy. There's no better way to expend that energy than by reproducing.


> > Organisms live at
> > near-maximum thermodynamic efficiency (some
> more
> > so than others), but in the end, there is no
> > violation of the laws of thermodynamics.
>
> Again, "in the end" is a catch-all way to
> reconcile the law, but it doesn't account for the
> short-term and consistent reversal in entropy
> during the lifetime of a species, genus, or
> phylum, etc. Simply put, DNA is designed from the
> bottom up to counter entropy long after its
> procreative processes have been spent.

Why do you think DNA is some kind of designer drug? It's a nucleic acid, not some mystery substance.

And some
> species have been doing that for many millions of
> years. How is that the result of random mass and
> energy interactions? The video in the above link
> mainly depicts the high order coiling of DNA after
> it's been replicated. Very little is available
> regarding the physical process of replication, and
> I suspect that's because the unzipping a 6 mile
> length of rope that's been completely reduced to a
> 6-degree coil is basically impossible to
> comprehend, let alone explain.

Actually, just in the last week or two there was something about capturing DNA in the act of replicating. I'll see if I can find it.

> > And there is now evidence that life itself is
> an
> > unavoidable product of the laws of
> thermodynamics.
> > It's good stuff and they are in the process of
> > testing it.


> Not so much "unavoidable" as much as "easily
> accommodated". The study is based on computer
> modeling which means many assumptions are made
> regarding the principles at play. It's reminiscent
> of Sydney Fox' primordial ooze which generated
> organic molecules when charged with an electric
> current.
>
> On the other hand, if you're suggesting that life
> (and the negative entropy it produces) is simply a
> short-term phase in the dissipation of energy from
> the Sun, I certainly would allow that possibility.
> But it's far less clear that the dissipation of
> solar energy can accidentally produce DNA's
> resilience, redundancy, self-repair,
> self-reproduction, and widespread occurrence on
> the surface of the planet, let alone the 6-degree
> helical windings and unzipping that's presented in
> the above youtube link.

Who said the dun caused it? That's really stretching things a bit, don't you think?

Has it occured to you that perhaps DNA itself evolved, and the relationship between RNA, DNA and proteins co-evolved? I doubt very much that DNA was the first agent of heredity.


> > Against the odds complexity? I knew we'd get
> into
> > that eventually. However, what are the odds of
> a
> > supernatural creator (and make no mistake,
> that's
> > what ID is about) actually existing?
>
> Why categorize it as "supernatural"? What do we
> think we know that allows us to make such a claim?
> I prefer "super-unknowable" which seems far more
> likely, considering the limits of those 3 pounds
> of water, fat, and protein that we depend on
> between our ears to contemplate such vast things.
>

Whatever you want to call it, then. What makes it more likely than the alternative?


> > Now, against the odds doesn't mean impossible
> > (because the probability never reaches zero).
> Show
> > me the math that states that a supernatural
> agent
> > is more possible than not.
>
> You're currect that it's a statistical argument,
> and the odds are infinitesimally tiny. I base that
> assessment on the 2nd Law, our inability to
> adequately define life, our inability to find life
> (so far) anywhere else than the few mile thick
> surface of our own planet, and the fact that life
> exists at all.

Why?

Here's another possibility: life is an immutable property of the universe. And another: the universe itself is evolving, and life is simply the next step.


> > > As was previously mentioned, if a non-random
> > > 'intelligence' is responsible for setting up
> the
> > > design, what created that 'intelligence'?
> >
> > Passing the buck fallacy. It fails to apply the
> > same rules to the problem when it comes to God.
> > And then you're back to infinite regression.
> >
> > In short, it solves nothing.
>
> Not sure what you mean by that. It's not passing
> the buck, it's allowing the logical reiterative
> paradigm to those who believe the universe is
> indeed infinite. Almost by definition, it's
> passing the buck to claim that the universe is
> infinite in space and time.

I didn't claim that space and time are infinite.

It's passing the buck to claim (as IDers and creationists do) that life on Earth MUST have been created, but God is subject to special rules exempting him from that question, and wasn't designed or created. It's more special pleading, but passing the buck does apply.


>
> What rules apply to God? And if God
> is "intelligent", where did that intelligence come
> from? Is God getting smarter? Is God subject to
> the laws of thermodynamics? Does God follow the
> laws of statistics?

Wouldn't we all love to know that. LOL In If he designed and created it, why wouldn't he be subject to it himself?

The problem with ID is that it doesn't set out any rules or parameters for their as yet nameless intelligent designer. Even magic has clearly delineated limitations.


> If the laws of physics don't apply to God,
> how do we account for God!

And therein lies the rub!

In the spring, at the end of the day, you should smell like earth. ~ Margaret Atwood



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Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 364 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 367 rodz111 21-Jan-18 15:52
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 433 jjeremybenthem 29-Dec-17 21:25
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 333 MichaelG 08-Jan-18 18:45
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 467 Aine 29-Dec-17 23:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 359 M. J. Thomas 30-Dec-17 11:12
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 395 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 13:10
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 359 Aine 30-Dec-17 14:47
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 317 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 17:41
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 342 Aine 30-Dec-17 17:57
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 350 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-17 18:18
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 313 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 18:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 351 M. J. Thomas 30-Dec-17 20:52
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 346 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-17 21:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 278 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 22:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 314 Sirfiroth 30-Dec-17 23:35
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 387 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 05:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 257 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 19:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 290 cladking 30-Dec-17 19:11
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 332 Vanya 30-Dec-17 14:04
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 285 MichaelG 08-Jan-18 18:46
Ongoing multidisciplinary studies across academia . . . 384 Reagent 30-Dec-17 02:49
Re: Ongoing multidisciplinary studies across academia . . . 279 MichaelG 08-Jan-18 19:52
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 388 Thunderbird 30-Dec-17 04:16
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 328 Susan Doris 30-Dec-17 13:16
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 333 Thunderbird 31-Dec-17 18:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 303 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 221 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 411 Vanya 30-Dec-17 14:25
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 304 Aine 30-Dec-17 14:48
Not necessarily Christian 315 drrayeye 30-Dec-17 22:26
Re: Not necessarily Christian 314 Vanya 31-Dec-17 09:06
Re: Not necessarily Christian 261 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 03:48
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 297 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 16:59
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 286 brett z 31-Dec-17 17:16
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 264 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:37
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 269 brett z 31-Dec-17 23:22
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 268 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 07:53
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 247 brett z 01-Jan-18 19:17
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 250 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 22:07
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 230 brett z 01-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 258 Aine 31-Dec-17 17:46
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 302 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 18:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 281 Aine 31-Dec-17 19:23
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 293 Aine 31-Dec-17 19:31
What about Multiverse ? 305 Vanya 01-Jan-18 12:19
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 289 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 279 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 206 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 243 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:13
Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 359 drrayeye 30-Dec-17 22:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 260 brett z 30-Dec-17 23:04
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 327 drrayeye 31-Dec-17 08:47
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Re: , Re: Intelligent Design 273 DUNE 31-Dec-17 10:29
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 280 drrayeye 31-Dec-17 12:57
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 344 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 13:37
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 289 drrayeye 31-Dec-17 14:13
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 277 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 14:27
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 291 drrayeye 31-Dec-17 14:53
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 299 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 15:56
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 263 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:15
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 283 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:06
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 205 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 08:05
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 267 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 01:59
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 brett z 01-Jan-18 02:08
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 305 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:11
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 253 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 07:59
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 266 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 10:32
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 258 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 17:25
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 312 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 18:29
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Re: driving force 271 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 18:59
Re: driving force 253 brett z 01-Jan-18 19:01
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 260 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:54
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 235 brett z 02-Jan-18 03:31
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 300 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 05:15
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 338 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:06
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 357 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 21:09
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 Aine 02-Jan-18 22:55
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 299 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 14:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 290 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 15:05
entropy 268 brett z 03-Jan-18 15:45
Re: entropy 288 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 16:22
Re: entropy 256 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:56
Re: entropy 310 brett z 03-Jan-18 21:15
Re: entropy 276 Aham 04-Jan-18 05:07
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Re: entropy 253 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:07
Re: entropy 232 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 16:59
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Re: entropy 257 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 18:08
Re: entropy 263 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 16:13
snow crystals and life 291 brett z 05-Jan-18 20:52
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Re: Information 266 cladking 06-Jan-18 19:35
Re: Information 279 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 20:14
Re: entropy 251 cladking 05-Jan-18 20:16
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Re: entropy 312 cladking 05-Jan-18 21:53
Re: entropy 261 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 20:47
Re: entropy 247 cladking 06-Jan-18 21:57
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 277 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:45
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 211 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 203 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:26
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 231 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 03:03
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 281 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 298 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 17:07
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 262 Susan Doris 05-Jan-18 19:06
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 249 cladking 05-Jan-18 19:33
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 258 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:16
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 205 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 21:26
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 209 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:27
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 228 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 239 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 16:55
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 238 brett z 06-Jan-18 17:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 228 cladking 06-Jan-18 20:06
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 287 Thunderbird 06-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 229 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 17:05
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 235 Thunderbird 08-Jan-18 05:59
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 262 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:13
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 219 cladking 08-Jan-18 17:17
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Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 237 cladking 08-Jan-18 18:26
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 298 Thunderbird 09-Jan-18 16:55
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 273 cladking 09-Jan-18 20:56
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 236 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 06:59
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 280 Susan Doris 10-Jan-18 07:40
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 280 Audrey 10-Jan-18 18:03
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 270 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 18:57
Re: Masonic History 250 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:03
Re: Masonic History 245 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Masonic History 254 Susan Doris 11-Jan-18 06:35
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 249 Susan Doris 10-Jan-18 19:22
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 174 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:00
Re: The speed of Thought : ) 244 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:31
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 363 Susan Doris 11-Jan-18 06:42
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 225 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:20
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 283 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 21:53
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 219 cladking 11-Jan-18 01:25
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 251 Origyptian 11-Jan-18 06:04
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 349 cladking 11-Jan-18 15:39
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 248 Audrey 11-Jan-18 02:26
Re: UBW/nt 236 Thunderbird 11-Jan-18 03:25
Re: Cosmic Parallels ... 283 cladking 10-Jan-18 14:52
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 224 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 222 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:00
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 227 Thunderbird 02-Jan-18 21:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 235 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 21:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 299 Aine 02-Jan-18 22:59
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 273 Vanya 03-Jan-18 16:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 260 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:01
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 232 Vanya 03-Jan-18 19:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 294 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 03:14
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 244 Audrey 02-Jan-18 06:05
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 231 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 353 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 13:05
Re: Directed Panspermia 275 Thunderbird 04-Jan-18 03:11
Re: Directed Panspermia 238 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:27
Re: Directed Panspermia 234 Origyptian 05-Jan-18 19:58
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 330 cladking 31-Dec-17 15:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 228 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 17:37
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 226 cladking 02-Jan-18 03:38
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 211 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 03:58
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 222 cladking 02-Jan-18 04:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 195 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 04:33
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 187 cladking 02-Jan-18 04:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 223 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 05:00
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 227 Origyptian 31-Dec-17 17:10
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 216 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 248 Aine 01-Jan-18 02:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 263 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:56
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 327 Aine 01-Jan-18 03:49
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 232 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 08:09
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 220 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 09:37
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 247 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 17:17
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 252 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 17:28
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 231 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 17:41
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 232 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:17
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 208 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 17:57
It's impossible 213 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 21:58
Re: It's impossible 225 Origyptian 01-Jan-18 22:22
Re: It's impossible 263 Audrey 01-Jan-18 22:40
Re: It's impossible 211 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 23:32
Re: It's impossible 236 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:42
Re: It's impossible 264 Eddie Larry 01-Jan-18 23:02
Re: It's impossible 235 brett z 01-Jan-18 23:57
Re: It's impossible 237 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 00:15
anthropic principle 327 brett z 02-Jan-18 00:21
Re: anthropic principle 241 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 04:44
Re: anthropic principle 293 brett z 02-Jan-18 12:16
What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 353 Vanya 02-Jan-18 16:19
Re: What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 228 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 16:59
Re: What Primates Teach Us About Being Human 259 Vanya 02-Jan-18 17:14
Re: It's impossible 236 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:46
Re: It's impossible 250 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 15:40
Re: It's impossible 278 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 16:47
Re: It's impossible 232 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 17:44
Re: It's impossible 243 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:50
Re: It's impossible 202 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 18:04
Re: It's impossible 241 Aine 02-Jan-18 18:07
Re: It's impossible 220 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 23:20
Re: It's impossible 190 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:23
Re: It's impossible 190 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:05
Re: It's impossible 221 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 23:30
Re: It's impossible 239 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:25
Re: It's impossible 301 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 10:12
Re: It's impossible 220 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:36
Re: It's impossible 273 cladking 03-Jan-18 15:28
Re: It's impossible 205 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 04:57
Re: It's impossible 193 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:39
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 268 Audrey 01-Jan-18 21:00
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 275 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 21:21
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 207 Audrey 01-Jan-18 22:38
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 267 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 23:26
Re: Bioplasma 217 Thunderbird 04-Jan-18 03:30
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 307 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 10:40
Laugh or cry? 286 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 13:00
Re: Laugh or cry? 313 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 14:21
About time for you to learn about atheism 243 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 17:20
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 239 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 18:03
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 293 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:21
Re: About time for you to learn about atheism 272 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:52
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 273 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 20:19
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 277 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 06:54
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 255 Jon Ellison 02-Jan-18 08:23
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 292 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 08:29
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 238 Jon Ellison 02-Jan-18 09:18
Re: , Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 253 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 11:20
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 315 eyeofhorus33 31-Dec-17 15:39
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 336 eli stills 31-Dec-17 16:56
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 314 cladking 31-Dec-17 17:59
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 307 Susan Doris 31-Dec-17 18:23
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 289 cladking 31-Dec-17 19:49
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 307 magisterchessmutt 31-Dec-17 20:56
But I lack the pictures! n/t 306 cladking 31-Dec-17 21:25
My interpretation 271 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:35
Re: My interpretation 297 Aine 01-Jan-18 02:46
not to me 318 drrayeye 01-Jan-18 02:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 259 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 04:15
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 308 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 05:38
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 249 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 208 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 06:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 220 Thanos5150 01-Jan-18 23:12
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 228 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 00:19
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 234 eli stills 01-Jan-18 18:24
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 199 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 18:55
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 241 eli stills 01-Jan-18 20:34
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 202 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 20:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 244 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 251 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 02:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 353 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 05:44
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 223 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 05:50
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 251 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 246 eli stills 02-Jan-18 16:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 250 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 16:32
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 249 Origyptian 02-Jan-18 16:53
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 293 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 18:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 312 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 21:42
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 211 eli stills 03-Jan-18 02:47
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 268 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 23:07
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 226 eli stills 04-Jan-18 02:11
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 191 Origyptian 04-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 241 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 06:01
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 19:06
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 284 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 19:17
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 263 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:22
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 229 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 23:25
Kerala 2016 245 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Kerala 2016 223 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 23:38
Re: Kerala 2016 254 Poster Boy 04-Jan-18 00:16
and Back to Nigeria 2017 220 Poster Boy 04-Jan-18 05:43
Re: and Back to Nigeria 2017 267 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 16:16
Medjugorje - May 2010 218 Poster Boy 06-Jan-18 19:25
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 254 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 17:56
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 249 Poster Boy 07-Jan-18 19:21
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 223 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 03:58
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 180 Poster Boy 08-Jan-18 04:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 200 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 18:49
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 203 Poster Boy 07-Jan-18 19:25
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 219 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 20:51
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 215 Eddie Larry 07-Jan-18 20:59
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 218 Poster Boy 07-Jan-18 21:18
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 267 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 21:42
See ya, Phil 245 Poster Boy 07-Jan-18 22:31
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 238 Eddie Larry 08-Jan-18 06:20
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 209 Poster Boy 07-Jan-18 21:15
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 233 Jon Ellison 07-Jan-18 21:32
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 207 Poster Boy 07-Jan-18 21:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 209 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:15
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 218 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 03:02
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 233 Poster Boy 08-Jan-18 03:46
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 267 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:42
Re: Medjugorje - May 2010 227 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 14:57
Proselytizing: Not 270 Poster Boy 09-Jan-18 01:26
Re: Proselytizing: Not 281 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 04:08
Re: Proselytizing: Not 296 Poster Boy 09-Jan-18 05:05
Re: Proselytizing: Not 252 Origyptian 09-Jan-18 14:05
Re: Proselytizing: Not 288 Susan Doris 09-Jan-18 14:41
13-Year Inquiry 218 Poster Boy 07-Jan-18 03:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 215 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 19:00
Re: 13-Year Inquiry 193 Poster Boy 07-Jan-18 19:20
Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 292 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 20:02
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 259 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 21:43
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 220 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 22:28
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 228 Thanos5150 03-Jan-18 22:51
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 242 Poster Boy 04-Jan-18 00:03
Re: Exodus, Hebrews Yahweh etc 260 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 00:58
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 225 eli stills 02-Jan-18 03:01
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 244 Thanos5150 02-Jan-18 06:07
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 272 eli stills 02-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 261 Eddie Larry 02-Jan-18 16:46
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 263 Thunderbird 01-Jan-18 20:24
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 256 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 292 Aine 02-Jan-18 00:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 271 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 300 Aine 02-Jan-18 01:02
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 279 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 01:21
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 312 eli stills 02-Jan-18 17:19
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 276 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:37
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 253 eyeofhorus33 02-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 250 eli stills 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 299 eli stills 01-Jan-18 20:54
Re: Intelligent Design is a form of atheism 216 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:46
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 337 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 03:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 319 Susan Doris 01-Jan-18 06:23
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 275 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 06:45
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 288 eli stills 01-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 289 Poster Boy 01-Jan-18 19:02
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 297 MichaelG 02-Jan-18 17:18
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 316 Aine 02-Jan-18 17:44
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 224 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:28
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 289 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:33
Genes Drive "Evolution". 277 cladking 03-Jan-18 15:43
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 191 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:26
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 250 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:38
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 287 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 17:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 230 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 264 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 07:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 253 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 281 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:56
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 236 cladking 03-Jan-18 18:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 310 Aine 03-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 284 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 246 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:55
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 224 cladking 03-Jan-18 20:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 249 Eddie Larry 03-Jan-18 21:12
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 267 Aine 03-Jan-18 23:30
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 236 cladking 04-Jan-18 00:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 228 Archaic 04-Jan-18 02:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 245 cladking 04-Jan-18 03:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 270 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 275 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 15:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 267 Aine 04-Jan-18 15:40
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 282 Thanos5150 04-Jan-18 16:07
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 267 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 250 cladking 04-Jan-18 16:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 222 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:35
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 238 cladking 06-Jan-18 18:37
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 252 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 12:47
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 228 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:28
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 207 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:45
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 247 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 16:53
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 216 cladking 08-Jan-18 19:48
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 223 cladking 08-Jan-18 14:59
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 270 cladking 04-Jan-18 15:39
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 264 Vanya 04-Jan-18 16:10
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 262 cladking 04-Jan-18 17:14
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 303 Vanya 04-Jan-18 18:05
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 322 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 18:11
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 255 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:41
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 235 Vanya 06-Jan-18 19:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 239 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 05:29
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 220 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 17:22
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 237 cladking 06-Jan-18 17:46
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 176 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 266 cladking 07-Jan-18 18:27
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 228 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:52
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 222 Origyptian 07-Jan-18 16:25
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 200 Audrey 08-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 238 Thunderbird 10-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 170 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 18:00
Re: Genes Drive "Evolution". 253 cladking 03-Jan-18 21:03
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 289 Susan Doris 02-Jan-18 19:06
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 276 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:41
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 278 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 18:38
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 282 cladking 04-Jan-18 18:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 247 cladking 02-Jan-18 19:22
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 243 MichaelG 04-Jan-18 16:45
Design makes sense 264 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 19:49
Re: Design makes sense 301 Aine 02-Jan-18 19:59
Re: Design makes sense 228 brett z 02-Jan-18 20:03
Re: Design makes sense 257 Aine 02-Jan-18 20:05
Re: Design makes sense 236 drrayeye 02-Jan-18 20:31
Re: Design makes sense 271 Aine 03-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Design makes sense 266 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 06:05
Plans and the structure of behavior 365 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 09:09
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 243 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 09:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 269 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:26
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 269 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:46
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 213 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 12:38
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 231 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 14:40
Executive Subroutines 224 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 16:09
Re: Executive Subroutines 233 Origyptian 06-Jan-18 01:14
Re: Executive Subroutines 251 cladking 06-Jan-18 01:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 226 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:34
Re: Executive Subroutines 223 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 219 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:23
Re: Executive Subroutines 228 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:25
Re: Executive Subroutines 216 cladking 07-Jan-18 02:51
Re: Executive Subroutines 213 Audrey 07-Jan-18 04:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 218 cladking 07-Jan-18 04:53
Re: Executive Subroutines 264 Audrey 08-Jan-18 03:03
Re: Executive Subroutines 202 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:42
Re: Executive Subroutines 223 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 05:45
Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 208 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 06:28
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 242 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 08:36
Not a great start 254 drrayeye 06-Jan-18 10:32
Re: Not a great start 297 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 12:10
Re: Intelligent atheists and ID: Your reading list is long 228 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 234 Audrey 06-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 283 Susan Doris 06-Jan-18 09:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 222 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:56
Re: Executive Subroutines 239 Audrey 07-Jan-18 02:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 329 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 07:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 163 cladking 07-Jan-18 14:29
Re: Executive Subroutines 285 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 14:45
Re: Executive Subroutines 209 cladking 07-Jan-18 16:36
Re: Executive Subroutines 240 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 17:54
Re: Executive Subroutines 201 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Executive Subroutines 230 cladking 07-Jan-18 19:52
Re: Executive Subroutines 234 cladking 07-Jan-18 20:15
Re: Executive Subroutines 261 Susan Doris 07-Jan-18 23:32
Re: Executive Subroutines 302 cladking 08-Jan-18 00:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 291 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 06:11
Re: Executive Subroutines 277 cladking 21-Jan-18 02:04
Re: Executive Subroutines 267 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 13:17
Re: Executive Subroutines 265 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 13:39
Re: Executive Subroutines 236 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 16:57
Re: Executive Subroutines 195 cladking 08-Jan-18 17:05
Re: Executive Subroutines 259 Susan Doris 08-Jan-18 17:33
Re: Executive Subroutines 215 cladking 06-Jan-18 15:38
Re: Executive Subroutines 241 Eddie Larry 06-Jan-18 15:52
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 243 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 255 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: Plans and the structure of behavior 280 Aine 03-Jan-18 19:47
If you really want to know 214 drrayeye 04-Jan-18 04:04
Re: If you really want to know 227 Susan Doris 04-Jan-18 06:51
Re: If you really want to know 233 Aine 04-Jan-18 12:07
Re: Design makes sense 311 Susan Doris 03-Jan-18 00:15
Re: Design makes sense 250 cladking 03-Jan-18 16:30
Re: Design makes sense 272 drrayeye 03-Jan-18 19:34
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 294 Vanya 02-Jan-18 20:13
Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 292 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 20:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 279 Aine 02-Jan-18 23:01
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 275 Poster Boy 02-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 242 Aine 03-Jan-18 00:21
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 264 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 01:24
IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 359 Vanya 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 231 Aine 03-Jan-18 17:03
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 311 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 17:43
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 252 Vanya 03-Jan-18 19:31
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 265 Vanya 04-Jan-18 13:13
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 203 Poster Boy 04-Jan-18 20:22
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 338 Vanya 05-Jan-18 09:15
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 240 Poster Boy 05-Jan-18 20:06
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 354 Vanya 06-Jan-18 14:17
Re: IF .... THEN .... - Random, Mutation, Evolution 206 Poster Boy 06-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 254 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:38
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 259 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 14:27
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 302 Aine 03-Jan-18 16:29
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 222 Origyptian 03-Jan-18 22:04
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 285 cloister 03-Jan-18 22:14
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 287 cladking 03-Jan-18 17:13
Re: Random mutations and evolution... Intelligent Design and Human Origins 308 Poster Boy 03-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 208 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:49
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 279 gulsbo 06-Jan-18 19:39
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 204 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 04:48
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 307 gulsbo 08-Jan-18 20:45
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 243 Origyptian 08-Jan-18 21:44
Re: Intelligent Design and...Implementation? 299 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 18:43
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 262 MichaelG 09-Jan-18 21:53
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 257 cladking 09-Jan-18 22:21
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 265 gulsbo 10-Jan-18 19:13
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 176 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:33
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 208 Origyptian 10-Jan-18 22:00
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 262 cladking 11-Jan-18 01:54
Re: Intelligent Design and Human Origins 241 cladking 08-Jan-18 20:20
2 points 281 Warwick 10-Jan-18 18:33
Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 310 cladking 10-Jan-18 20:47
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee n/t 220 Warwick 10-Jan-18 20:58
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 251 cladking 10-Jan-18 21:11
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 254 MichaelG 17-Jan-18 18:26
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 240 cladking 17-Jan-18 18:42
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 229 Audrey 17-Jan-18 23:39
Re: Mebbe it was designed by committee 336 Warwick 17-Jan-18 23:52


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