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Cloister wrote:

<I find the canonical system is a kind of thread that underpins all sorts of other similar systems, much like the ones you are exploring here. There seems to be a relationship that ties them all together with the canonical as a kind of datum core for the others to hang onto.>

Hi Cloister,

These are my thoughts also on the Canonical system of duodecimal units. The Canonical Earth Circ. model, rediscovered by John Michell, wasn't meant to represent an actual Geodetic model of the Earth's dimensions physically. Although John did so with the appropriate ratio values he used, such as 441/440 Mean to Polar radius, and 1261/1260 Equatorial to Mean radius ratios. The Canonical system was understood a very long time ago and shows up time and again in early weight and volume units, including some of the very first coinage systems, when coinage was still tied directly to particular weight and volume units, that had previously been transacted as trade barter exchanges, implemented by the use of scales to convert units. Your mention of the value 168, as a grain unit, was the weight of the very first Electrum coins produced in the Lydia province of Asia Minor. But it wasn't long after the invention of coined money that this ancient system fell into incredible disarray, and so also the understandings of the Canonical system that tied into it for millennia previously. However, it wouldn't be totally forgotten thanks to the surviving writings of such philosophers as Plato. I believe that classical Greek writer influenced John's rediscovery of this ancient system more than any other. Vestiges of the Canonical system would continue to survive throughout the remaining centuries up until the present era, but the connecting linkages to it were hard to discern afterwards. It was this idea, that got me thinking that purely Linear measurement systems of many ancient cultures only told a partial story, and that to understand the bigger picture, one had to delve into the murkier realms of volumes and weights, to rediscover those imperceptible linkages. It has slowly produced many insights since I first made this attempt to do so a few years ago now. But at the same time, it has added an exponential layer of complexity to the situation of ancient metrology in general. Oh well,,, :)

Best regards,

Stephen

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