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Hello Thanos5150,

But what about modern Egyptians? Are they related to ancient Egyptians?

In the following table I post Y-DNA haplogroups based on www.eupedia.com. Here we can see Egyptians(descendants of ancient Egyptians), Kurds(descendants of Gobekli Tepe populations), Lebanese(descendants of Phoenicians), Palestinians(descendants of Canaanites), Turks/Anatolians(descendants of Hittites), Southern Iraqi's(descendants of Sumerians) and Greeks(descendants of Minoans, Mycenaean's, Minyans, Pelasgians, etc).

In purple I present the data from 5 Neolithic sites in Greece grouped in three based on the geographic area. Sesklo and Dimini are in Central Greece(Magnesia Thessaly). Phragthi cave, and Lerna are in Southern Greece(Argolis Peloponnese) , and Nea Nicomedia is in Northern Greece(Emathia Macedonia). I also post four areas of Greece, Central, Northern, Southern, plus Crete. Cyprus is also added.



We then find which areas have similar haplogroup values to that of Egypt. We notice that haplogroups E1b1b, R1b, G, N are similar to those in Neolithic Sesklo/Dimini. R1a is similar to that of Neolithic Lerna/Franchthi(which also matches G). J is closest to that of Central Greece. T is closest to Kurdistan but not far from that of Central Greece. The other values are small(see Q matching Crete and Cyprus). I just want to point out that Egypt's E1b1b is basically the E-V12* mutation, while Greece's is the E-V13 mutation. This differentiates the Greeks from the Egyptians. I thus don't see considerable genetic Y-DNA similarities between modern Egyptians and people from Palestine, Lebanon, Turkey, or Iraq. I did not include Jordan or Syria but this would not change this impression.

What Y-DNA data shows is that people from Central Greece are genetically similar to Albanians and have considerable ties to Egyptians. People from Southern Greece are genetically "between" Albanians and Kosovars. On the other hand people from the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia are genetically close to Bulgarians and to a less degree to Northern Greeks.


Data for the Neolithic sites taken from the article:

The coming of the Greeks to Provence and Corsica: Y-chromosome models of archaic Greek colonization of the western Mediterranean, by Roy J King, Julie Di Cristofaro, Anastasia Kouvatsi, Costas Triantaphyllidis, Walter Scheidel, Natalie M Myres,Alice A Lin, Alexandre Eissautier, Michael Mitchell, Didier Binder, Ornella Semino, Andrea Novelletto,
Peter A Underhill, Jacques Chiaroni


BR Spiros

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11-Sep-18 09:31 by Spiros.

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