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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
>
> > In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> > granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> > the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> > apparently was retrieved from
> > outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> > Petrie though might account for that), it's
> > nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> > granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> > disperse locations as...
> >
> >
    > > - Outside the Main Entrance
    > > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow in the Well Shaft
    > > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to the SC
    > > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
> >
> > A far easier way to explain those various
> > relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> > that their original function was related to
> > structural components in the local vicinity where
> > they were found and not all the way up at the AC.
>
> Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact
> pieces of portcullis blocks?
> What evidence is there to support that idea?

The four granite fragments that we see there today have been reported to be almost as thick as the channels and have evidence of bore holes at one end, and these holes ahve been reported match the separation of the four grooves on the south wall.


> > Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> > vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> > that those granite fragments originally comprised
> > portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> > more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> > in the AC were occupied by something other than
> > simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> > which was taken away.
>
> The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is
> indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
> If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to
> remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
> Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?

And that right there is the problem with the notion that granite blocks were cut into the fragments we see today. The fragments seem to be about half as wide as the space between the east/west walls of the AC and contain evidence of 2 bore holes, and this implies they were chiseled vertically down the midline in order to remove them from their position in the AC channels. But if pillagers chiseled the blocks vertically in half, then there would be no need to chisel the ribs in the walls at all since each half of the block would easily slip out of the channel without needing to exert the additional effort to remove the ribs. Also, the bottom aspect of most of the ribs is still intact, and only the central aspect of the ribs appear to have been chiseled away. All of this seems to contradict and not support the Granite Portcullis model.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2370 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 337 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 352 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 296 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 320 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 264 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 300 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 313 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 232 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 310 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 251 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 255 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 189 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 310 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 152 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 215 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 368 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 312 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 276 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 230 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 231 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 245 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 230 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 275 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 284 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 248 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 228 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 186 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 186 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 139 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 222 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 207 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 199 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 283 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 216 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 213 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 220 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 228 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 175 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 183 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 248 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 141 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 214 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 190 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 153 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 153 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 166 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 157 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 198 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 208 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 161 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 230 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 152 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 153 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 172 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 151 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 200 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 136 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 196 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 166 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 279 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 230 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 201 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 155 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 211 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 260 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 320 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 298 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 315 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 170 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 164 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 167 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 187 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 158 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 188 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 258 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 392 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 186 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 151 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 133 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 125 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 118 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 118 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 133 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 173 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 151 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 159 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 131 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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