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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
>
> > In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> > granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> > the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> > apparently was retrieved from
> > outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> > Petrie though might account for that), it's
> > nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> > granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> > disperse locations as...
> >
> >
    > > - Outside the Main Entrance
    > > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow in the Well Shaft
    > > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to the SC
    > > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
> >
> > A far easier way to explain those various
> > relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> > that their original function was related to
> > structural components in the local vicinity where
> > they were found and not all the way up at the AC.
>
> Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact
> pieces of portcullis blocks?
> What evidence is there to support that idea?

The four granite fragments that we see there today have been reported to be almost as thick as the channels and have evidence of bore holes at one end, and these holes ahve been reported match the separation of the four grooves on the south wall.


> > Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> > vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> > that those granite fragments originally comprised
> > portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> > more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> > in the AC were occupied by something other than
> > simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> > which was taken away.
>
> The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is
> indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
> If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to
> remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
> Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?

And that right there is the problem with the notion that granite blocks were cut into the fragments we see today. The fragments seem to be about half as wide as the space between the east/west walls of the AC and contain evidence of 2 bore holes, and this implies they were chiseled vertically down the midline in order to remove them from their position in the AC channels. But if pillagers chiseled the blocks vertically in half, then there would be no need to chisel the ribs in the walls at all since each half of the block would easily slip out of the channel without needing to exert the additional effort to remove the ribs. Also, the bottom aspect of most of the ribs is still intact, and only the central aspect of the ribs appear to have been chiseled away. All of this seems to contradict and not support the Granite Portcullis model.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2616 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 396 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 443 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 358 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 376 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 328 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 359 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 373 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 285 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 390 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 297 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 304 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 241 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 385 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 202 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 286 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 449 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 373 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 382 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 279 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 335 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 306 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 290 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 320 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 349 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 310 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 295 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 235 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 238 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 199 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 266 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 247 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 246 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 341 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 263 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 285 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 272 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 277 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 219 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 229 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 343 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 186 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 265 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 228 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 202 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 197 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 221 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 225 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 247 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 261 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 219 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 292 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 201 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 211 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 230 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 197 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 243 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 180 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 246 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 222 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 330 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 305 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 250 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 210 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 316 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 324 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 414 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 351 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 360 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 230 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 221 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 217 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 236 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 215 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 253 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 337 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 548 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 239 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 205 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 169 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 177 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 166 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 184 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 174 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 215 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 212 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 221 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 205 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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