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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
>
> > In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> > granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> > the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> > apparently was retrieved from
> > outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> > Petrie though might account for that), it's
> > nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> > granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> > disperse locations as...
> >
> >
    > > - Outside the Main Entrance
    > > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow in the Well Shaft
    > > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to the SC
    > > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
> >
> > A far easier way to explain those various
> > relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> > that their original function was related to
> > structural components in the local vicinity where
> > they were found and not all the way up at the AC.
>
> Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact
> pieces of portcullis blocks?
> What evidence is there to support that idea?

The four granite fragments that we see there today have been reported to be almost as thick as the channels and have evidence of bore holes at one end, and these holes ahve been reported match the separation of the four grooves on the south wall.


> > Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> > vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> > that those granite fragments originally comprised
> > portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> > more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> > in the AC were occupied by something other than
> > simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> > which was taken away.
>
> The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is
> indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
> If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to
> remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
> Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?

And that right there is the problem with the notion that granite blocks were cut into the fragments we see today. The fragments seem to be about half as wide as the space between the east/west walls of the AC and contain evidence of 2 bore holes, and this implies they were chiseled vertically down the midline in order to remove them from their position in the AC channels. But if pillagers chiseled the blocks vertically in half, then there would be no need to chisel the ribs in the walls at all since each half of the block would easily slip out of the channel without needing to exert the additional effort to remove the ribs. Also, the bottom aspect of most of the ribs is still intact, and only the central aspect of the ribs appear to have been chiseled away. All of this seems to contradict and not support the Granite Portcullis model.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2758 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 439 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 518 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 404 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 432 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 379 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 406 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 438 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 335 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 449 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 342 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 349 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 285 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 446 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 247 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 335 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 505 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 423 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 433 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 325 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 400 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 360 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 331 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 361 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 410 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 365 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 335 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 281 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 282 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 252 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 302 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 286 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 291 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 384 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 309 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 340 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 312 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 325 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 261 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 265 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 388 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 228 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 303 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 271 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 242 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 234 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 267 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 265 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 319 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 295 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 256 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 334 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 242 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 256 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 268 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 244 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 293 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 229 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 282 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 269 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 380 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 353 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 293 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 249 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 386 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 380 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 483 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 395 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 397 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 290 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 274 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 260 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 280 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 256 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 301 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 400 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 699 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 288 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 245 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 207 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 231 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 212 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 228 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 217 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 250 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 258 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 264 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 250 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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