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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
>
> > In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> > granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> > the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> > apparently was retrieved from
> > outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> > Petrie though might account for that), it's
> > nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> > granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> > disperse locations as...
> >
> >
    > > - Outside the Main Entrance
    > > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow in the Well Shaft
    > > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to the SC
    > > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
> >
> > A far easier way to explain those various
> > relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> > that their original function was related to
> > structural components in the local vicinity where
> > they were found and not all the way up at the AC.
>
> Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact
> pieces of portcullis blocks?
> What evidence is there to support that idea?

The four granite fragments that we see there today have been reported to be almost as thick as the channels and have evidence of bore holes at one end, and these holes ahve been reported match the separation of the four grooves on the south wall.


> > Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> > vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> > that those granite fragments originally comprised
> > portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> > more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> > in the AC were occupied by something other than
> > simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> > which was taken away.
>
> The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is
> indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
> If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to
> remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
> Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?

And that right there is the problem with the notion that granite blocks were cut into the fragments we see today. The fragments seem to be about half as wide as the space between the east/west walls of the AC and contain evidence of 2 bore holes, and this implies they were chiseled vertically down the midline in order to remove them from their position in the AC channels. But if pillagers chiseled the blocks vertically in half, then there would be no need to chisel the ribs in the walls at all since each half of the block would easily slip out of the channel without needing to exert the additional effort to remove the ribs. Also, the bottom aspect of most of the ribs is still intact, and only the central aspect of the ribs appear to have been chiseled away. All of this seems to contradict and not support the Granite Portcullis model.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2944 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 504 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 575 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 456 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 497 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 429 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 458 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 509 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 416 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 501 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 391 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 412 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 333 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 492 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 295 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 391 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 557 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 476 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 487 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 373 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 487 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 417 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 382 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 419 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 461 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 412 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 386 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 340 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 333 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 300 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 352 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 342 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 341 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 434 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 368 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 389 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 358 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 387 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 319 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 324 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 440 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 280 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 349 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 357 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 301 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 274 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 323 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 307 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 370 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 345 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 307 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 380 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 292 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 306 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 340 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 294 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 345 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 283 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 325 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 316 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 435 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 399 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 338 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 294 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 450 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 437 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 537 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 446 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 456 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 346 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 333 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 311 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 333 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 305 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 358 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 478 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 839 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 335 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 306 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 264 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 284 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 260 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 287 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 266 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 300 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 315 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 309 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 299 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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