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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
>
> > In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> > granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> > the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> > apparently was retrieved from
> > outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> > Petrie though might account for that), it's
> > nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> > granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> > disperse locations as...
> >
> >
    > > - Outside the Main Entrance
    > > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow in the Well Shaft
    > > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to the SC
    > > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
> >
> > A far easier way to explain those various
> > relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> > that their original function was related to
> > structural components in the local vicinity where
> > they were found and not all the way up at the AC.
>
> Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact
> pieces of portcullis blocks?
> What evidence is there to support that idea?

The four granite fragments that we see there today have been reported to be almost as thick as the channels and have evidence of bore holes at one end, and these holes ahve been reported match the separation of the four grooves on the south wall.


> > Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> > vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> > that those granite fragments originally comprised
> > portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> > more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> > in the AC were occupied by something other than
> > simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> > which was taken away.
>
> The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is
> indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
> If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to
> remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
> Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?

And that right there is the problem with the notion that granite blocks were cut into the fragments we see today. The fragments seem to be about half as wide as the space between the east/west walls of the AC and contain evidence of 2 bore holes, and this implies they were chiseled vertically down the midline in order to remove them from their position in the AC channels. But if pillagers chiseled the blocks vertically in half, then there would be no need to chisel the ribs in the walls at all since each half of the block would easily slip out of the channel without needing to exert the additional effort to remove the ribs. Also, the bottom aspect of most of the ribs is still intact, and only the central aspect of the ribs appear to have been chiseled away. All of this seems to contradict and not support the Granite Portcullis model.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2676 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 416 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 477 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 383 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 409 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 358 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 382 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 404 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 313 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 414 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 323 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 329 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 264 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 415 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 221 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 309 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 477 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 402 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 410 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 301 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 371 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 331 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 311 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 338 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 379 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 336 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 319 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 261 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 261 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 228 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 284 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 269 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 272 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 363 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 282 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 318 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 294 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 302 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 242 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 249 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 365 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 205 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 283 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 251 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 219 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 214 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 247 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 247 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 276 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 277 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 241 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 313 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 224 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 234 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 250 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 223 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 264 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 199 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 265 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 245 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 355 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 330 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 270 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 232 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 352 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 348 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 441 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 377 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 377 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 268 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 245 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 237 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 259 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 233 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 278 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 373 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 611 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 263 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 225 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 186 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 212 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 188 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 208 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 190 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 233 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 235 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 242 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 227 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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