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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
>
> > In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> > granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> > the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> > apparently was retrieved from
> > outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> > Petrie though might account for that), it's
> > nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> > granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> > disperse locations as...
> >
> >
    > > - Outside the Main Entrance
    > > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow in the Well Shaft
    > > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to the SC
    > > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
> >
> > A far easier way to explain those various
> > relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> > that their original function was related to
> > structural components in the local vicinity where
> > they were found and not all the way up at the AC.
>
> Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact
> pieces of portcullis blocks?
> What evidence is there to support that idea?

The four granite fragments that we see there today have been reported to be almost as thick as the channels and have evidence of bore holes at one end, and these holes ahve been reported match the separation of the four grooves on the south wall.


> > Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> > vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> > that those granite fragments originally comprised
> > portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> > more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> > in the AC were occupied by something other than
> > simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> > which was taken away.
>
> The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is
> indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
> If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to
> remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
> Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?

And that right there is the problem with the notion that granite blocks were cut into the fragments we see today. The fragments seem to be about half as wide as the space between the east/west walls of the AC and contain evidence of 2 bore holes, and this implies they were chiseled vertically down the midline in order to remove them from their position in the AC channels. But if pillagers chiseled the blocks vertically in half, then there would be no need to chisel the ribs in the walls at all since each half of the block would easily slip out of the channel without needing to exert the additional effort to remove the ribs. Also, the bottom aspect of most of the ribs is still intact, and only the central aspect of the ribs appear to have been chiseled away. All of this seems to contradict and not support the Granite Portcullis model.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2466 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 372 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 388 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 331 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 349 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 290 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 331 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 341 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 257 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 343 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 277 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 283 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 217 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 340 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 176 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 244 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 409 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 336 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 310 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 261 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 264 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 278 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 254 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 301 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 314 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 277 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 254 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 208 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 211 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 159 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 246 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 229 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 227 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 311 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 242 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 243 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 243 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 256 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 196 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 206 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 277 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 164 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 240 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 208 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 177 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 174 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 188 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 184 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 221 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 233 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 183 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 256 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 177 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 170 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 195 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 169 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 223 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 155 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 222 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 188 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 305 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 265 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 226 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 172 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 255 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 291 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 359 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 326 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 342 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 200 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 191 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 195 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 213 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 178 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 212 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 290 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 450 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 213 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 177 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 151 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 148 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 140 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 145 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 156 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 195 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 179 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 182 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 155 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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