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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
> >
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>
> >
> > > this discussion demonstrates that an inner
> coffer
> > > could easily have been transported to the
> finished KC.
> > >
> > > If there were one, of course.
> > >
> > > Warwick
> >
> > It demonstrates that absolutely anything
> smaller
> > than and including the granite coffer could
> have
> > been easily transported to the finished KC
> through
> > the AC passageways.
> > Nothing larger than the granite coffer could
> have
> > been transported into the KC.
> >
> > So yes, you are correct in your observation. A
> > human being can be transported or transit into
> > into the KC.
>
> If you are correct about the box originally having
> relevance to the AC, then this goes back to the
> alleged granite portcullis blocks. If someone
> found the stone box inside the AC and moved it
> into the KC to get it out of the way, then why not
> just put the portcullis blocks in the KC as well?

If the portcullis blocks were of granite and of little worth too a tomb robber then this would seem reasonable.
If however they were comprised of a more valuable material, then their complete removal and consequent disappearance would seem a reasonable assumption.
This would apply to anything of value regardless of the structures possible purpose.


> While this could be a reason to argue that the
> box, therefore, wasn't found in the AC at all.
> However, it also raises a question about the
> granite portcullis blocks since neither the
> granite box nor granite portcullis blocks were
> ever reported by a credible source to have
> originally been found in the AC.

I doubt that a credible source could have reported a granite box within the AC, as to gain access the box had to have been pushed into the KC by those who made the first ever incursion. Probably in antiquity and probably treasure hunters or robbers with little interest in documenting and reporting the original 'as found' arrangement.

>
> In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> apparently was retrieved from
> outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> Petrie though might account for that), it's
> nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> disperse locations as...
>
>
    - Outside the Main Entrance
    > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow
    > in the Well Shaft
    > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to
    > the SC
    > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
>
> A far easier way to explain those various
> relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> that their original function was related to
> structural components in the local vicinity where
> they were found and not all the way up at the AC.

Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact pieces of portcullis blocks?
What evidence is there to support that idea?


> Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> that those granite fragments originally comprised
> portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> in the AC were occupied by something other than
> simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> which was taken away.

The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20-Nov-17 19:38 by Jon Ellison.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2645 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 407 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 463 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 373 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 394 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 346 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 372 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 393 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 304 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 405 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 310 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 320 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 252 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 398 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 211 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 300 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 464 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 395 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 392 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 293 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 356 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 323 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 303 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 333 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 363 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 328 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 307 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 248 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 254 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 217 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 277 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 258 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 258 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 352 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 275 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 300 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 286 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 293 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 234 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 241 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 356 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 199 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 277 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 240 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 212 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 208 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 238 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 237 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 258 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 270 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 235 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 307 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 215 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 228 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 243 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 207 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 256 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 193 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 258 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 235 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 340 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 322 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 262 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 225 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 337 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 338 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 425 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 369 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 369 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 241 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 232 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 230 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 248 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 226 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 270 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 362 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 584 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 255 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 218 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 177 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 185 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 178 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 200 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 182 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 224 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 226 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 234 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 219 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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