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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
> >
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>
> >
> > > this discussion demonstrates that an inner
> coffer
> > > could easily have been transported to the
> finished KC.
> > >
> > > If there were one, of course.
> > >
> > > Warwick
> >
> > It demonstrates that absolutely anything
> smaller
> > than and including the granite coffer could
> have
> > been easily transported to the finished KC
> through
> > the AC passageways.
> > Nothing larger than the granite coffer could
> have
> > been transported into the KC.
> >
> > So yes, you are correct in your observation. A
> > human being can be transported or transit into
> > into the KC.
>
> If you are correct about the box originally having
> relevance to the AC, then this goes back to the
> alleged granite portcullis blocks. If someone
> found the stone box inside the AC and moved it
> into the KC to get it out of the way, then why not
> just put the portcullis blocks in the KC as well?

If the portcullis blocks were of granite and of little worth too a tomb robber then this would seem reasonable.
If however they were comprised of a more valuable material, then their complete removal and consequent disappearance would seem a reasonable assumption.
This would apply to anything of value regardless of the structures possible purpose.


> While this could be a reason to argue that the
> box, therefore, wasn't found in the AC at all.
> However, it also raises a question about the
> granite portcullis blocks since neither the
> granite box nor granite portcullis blocks were
> ever reported by a credible source to have
> originally been found in the AC.

I doubt that a credible source could have reported a granite box within the AC, as to gain access the box had to have been pushed into the KC by those who made the first ever incursion. Probably in antiquity and probably treasure hunters or robbers with little interest in documenting and reporting the original 'as found' arrangement.

>
> In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> apparently was retrieved from
> outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> Petrie though might account for that), it's
> nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> disperse locations as...
>
>
    - Outside the Main Entrance
    > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow
    > in the Well Shaft
    > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to
    > the SC
    > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
>
> A far easier way to explain those various
> relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> that their original function was related to
> structural components in the local vicinity where
> they were found and not all the way up at the AC.

Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact pieces of portcullis blocks?
What evidence is there to support that idea?


> Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> that those granite fragments originally comprised
> portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> in the AC were occupied by something other than
> simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> which was taken away.

The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20-Nov-17 19:38 by Jon Ellison.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2372 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 338 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 352 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 296 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 321 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 264 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 301 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 315 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 233 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 311 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 252 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 256 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 191 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 311 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 153 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 215 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 369 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 312 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 277 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 230 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 231 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 247 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 230 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 275 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 284 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 248 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 229 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 186 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 187 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 139 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 222 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 207 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 200 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 283 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 218 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 214 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 220 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 228 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 176 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 183 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 248 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 141 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 215 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 191 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 153 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 153 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 166 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 158 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 198 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 209 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 161 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 230 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 153 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 153 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 172 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 151 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 201 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 136 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 196 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 167 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 280 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 232 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 202 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 155 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 211 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 261 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 321 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 298 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 315 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 171 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 164 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 168 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 187 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 158 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 188 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 259 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 393 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 186 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 152 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 133 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 126 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 119 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 118 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 133 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 174 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 152 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 159 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 131 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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