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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
> >
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>
> >
> > > this discussion demonstrates that an inner
> coffer
> > > could easily have been transported to the
> finished KC.
> > >
> > > If there were one, of course.
> > >
> > > Warwick
> >
> > It demonstrates that absolutely anything
> smaller
> > than and including the granite coffer could
> have
> > been easily transported to the finished KC
> through
> > the AC passageways.
> > Nothing larger than the granite coffer could
> have
> > been transported into the KC.
> >
> > So yes, you are correct in your observation. A
> > human being can be transported or transit into
> > into the KC.
>
> If you are correct about the box originally having
> relevance to the AC, then this goes back to the
> alleged granite portcullis blocks. If someone
> found the stone box inside the AC and moved it
> into the KC to get it out of the way, then why not
> just put the portcullis blocks in the KC as well?

If the portcullis blocks were of granite and of little worth too a tomb robber then this would seem reasonable.
If however they were comprised of a more valuable material, then their complete removal and consequent disappearance would seem a reasonable assumption.
This would apply to anything of value regardless of the structures possible purpose.


> While this could be a reason to argue that the
> box, therefore, wasn't found in the AC at all.
> However, it also raises a question about the
> granite portcullis blocks since neither the
> granite box nor granite portcullis blocks were
> ever reported by a credible source to have
> originally been found in the AC.

I doubt that a credible source could have reported a granite box within the AC, as to gain access the box had to have been pushed into the KC by those who made the first ever incursion. Probably in antiquity and probably treasure hunters or robbers with little interest in documenting and reporting the original 'as found' arrangement.

>
> In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> apparently was retrieved from
> outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> Petrie though might account for that), it's
> nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> disperse locations as...
>
>
    - Outside the Main Entrance
    > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow
    > in the Well Shaft
    > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to
    > the SC
    > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
>
> A far easier way to explain those various
> relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> that their original function was related to
> structural components in the local vicinity where
> they were found and not all the way up at the AC.

Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact pieces of portcullis blocks?
What evidence is there to support that idea?


> Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> that those granite fragments originally comprised
> portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> in the AC were occupied by something other than
> simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> which was taken away.

The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20-Nov-17 19:38 by Jon Ellison.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2295 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 317 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 319 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 279 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 301 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 244 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 279 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 297 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 209 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 292 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 230 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 234 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 172 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 295 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 135 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 195 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 340 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 287 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 246 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 214 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 209 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 228 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 212 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 254 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 265 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 230 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 215 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 173 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 169 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 123 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 201 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 185 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 177 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 260 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 200 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 197 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 199 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 207 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 162 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 165 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 222 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 125 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 195 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 168 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 136 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 136 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 151 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 139 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 180 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 192 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 146 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 212 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 132 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 139 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 157 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 131 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 179 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 119 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 177 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 151 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 260 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 211 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 188 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 143 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 185 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 242 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 298 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 276 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 290 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 150 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 148 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 146 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 163 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 145 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 169 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 230 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 357 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 170 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 132 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 117 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 114 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 104 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 99 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 114 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 160 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 130 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 141 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 116 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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