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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
> >
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>
> >
> > > this discussion demonstrates that an inner
> coffer
> > > could easily have been transported to the
> finished KC.
> > >
> > > If there were one, of course.
> > >
> > > Warwick
> >
> > It demonstrates that absolutely anything
> smaller
> > than and including the granite coffer could
> have
> > been easily transported to the finished KC
> through
> > the AC passageways.
> > Nothing larger than the granite coffer could
> have
> > been transported into the KC.
> >
> > So yes, you are correct in your observation. A
> > human being can be transported or transit into
> > into the KC.
>
> If you are correct about the box originally having
> relevance to the AC, then this goes back to the
> alleged granite portcullis blocks. If someone
> found the stone box inside the AC and moved it
> into the KC to get it out of the way, then why not
> just put the portcullis blocks in the KC as well?

If the portcullis blocks were of granite and of little worth too a tomb robber then this would seem reasonable.
If however they were comprised of a more valuable material, then their complete removal and consequent disappearance would seem a reasonable assumption.
This would apply to anything of value regardless of the structures possible purpose.


> While this could be a reason to argue that the
> box, therefore, wasn't found in the AC at all.
> However, it also raises a question about the
> granite portcullis blocks since neither the
> granite box nor granite portcullis blocks were
> ever reported by a credible source to have
> originally been found in the AC.

I doubt that a credible source could have reported a granite box within the AC, as to gain access the box had to have been pushed into the KC by those who made the first ever incursion. Probably in antiquity and probably treasure hunters or robbers with little interest in documenting and reporting the original 'as found' arrangement.

>
> In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> apparently was retrieved from
> outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> Petrie though might account for that), it's
> nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> disperse locations as...
>
>
    - Outside the Main Entrance
    > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow
    > in the Well Shaft
    > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to
    > the SC
    > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
>
> A far easier way to explain those various
> relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> that their original function was related to
> structural components in the local vicinity where
> they were found and not all the way up at the AC.

Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact pieces of portcullis blocks?
What evidence is there to support that idea?


> Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> that those granite fragments originally comprised
> portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> in the AC were occupied by something other than
> simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> which was taken away.

The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20-Nov-17 19:38 by Jon Ellison.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2742 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 430 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 509 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 396 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 424 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 372 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 398 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 428 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 326 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 436 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 335 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 342 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 275 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 435 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 240 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 328 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 499 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 419 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 427 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 315 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 391 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 350 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 326 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 354 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 403 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 356 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 331 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 275 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 278 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 247 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 296 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 282 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 286 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 376 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 297 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 335 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 307 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 317 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 255 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 261 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 381 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 219 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 299 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 265 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 234 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 229 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 262 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 260 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 314 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 290 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 251 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 328 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 238 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 248 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 262 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 237 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 286 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 219 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 276 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 262 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 377 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 349 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 285 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 243 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 371 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 374 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 476 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 387 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 392 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 284 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 268 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 255 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 274 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 251 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 290 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 394 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 676 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 279 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 240 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 201 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 226 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 204 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 222 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 210 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 246 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 251 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 257 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 244 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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