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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
> >
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>
> >
> > > this discussion demonstrates that an inner
> coffer
> > > could easily have been transported to the
> finished KC.
> > >
> > > If there were one, of course.
> > >
> > > Warwick
> >
> > It demonstrates that absolutely anything
> smaller
> > than and including the granite coffer could
> have
> > been easily transported to the finished KC
> through
> > the AC passageways.
> > Nothing larger than the granite coffer could
> have
> > been transported into the KC.
> >
> > So yes, you are correct in your observation. A
> > human being can be transported or transit into
> > into the KC.
>
> If you are correct about the box originally having
> relevance to the AC, then this goes back to the
> alleged granite portcullis blocks. If someone
> found the stone box inside the AC and moved it
> into the KC to get it out of the way, then why not
> just put the portcullis blocks in the KC as well?

If the portcullis blocks were of granite and of little worth too a tomb robber then this would seem reasonable.
If however they were comprised of a more valuable material, then their complete removal and consequent disappearance would seem a reasonable assumption.
This would apply to anything of value regardless of the structures possible purpose.


> While this could be a reason to argue that the
> box, therefore, wasn't found in the AC at all.
> However, it also raises a question about the
> granite portcullis blocks since neither the
> granite box nor granite portcullis blocks were
> ever reported by a credible source to have
> originally been found in the AC.

I doubt that a credible source could have reported a granite box within the AC, as to gain access the box had to have been pushed into the KC by those who made the first ever incursion. Probably in antiquity and probably treasure hunters or robbers with little interest in documenting and reporting the original 'as found' arrangement.

>
> In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> apparently was retrieved from
> outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> Petrie though might account for that), it's
> nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> disperse locations as...
>
>
    - Outside the Main Entrance
    > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow
    > in the Well Shaft
    > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to
    > the SC
    > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
>
> A far easier way to explain those various
> relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> that their original function was related to
> structural components in the local vicinity where
> they were found and not all the way up at the AC.

Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact pieces of portcullis blocks?
What evidence is there to support that idea?


> Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> that those granite fragments originally comprised
> portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> in the AC were occupied by something other than
> simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> which was taken away.

The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20-Nov-17 19:38 by Jon Ellison.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2670 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 416 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 476 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 382 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 407 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 358 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 380 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 402 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 311 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 413 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 321 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 329 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 262 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 415 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 220 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 308 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 476 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 401 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 409 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 300 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 369 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 329 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 310 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 337 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 378 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 335 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 319 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 261 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 261 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 227 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 283 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 269 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 272 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 363 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 282 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 318 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 292 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 301 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 242 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 249 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 365 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 205 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 283 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 250 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 219 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 214 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 245 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 246 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 273 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 277 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 239 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 313 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 223 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 233 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 250 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 222 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 263 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 199 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 265 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 244 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 352 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 330 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 270 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 231 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 351 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 348 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 438 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 376 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 377 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 266 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 244 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 236 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 257 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 233 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 277 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 373 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 610 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 262 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 225 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 185 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 210 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 185 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 207 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 189 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 232 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 234 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 241 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 226 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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