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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
> >
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>
> >
> > > this discussion demonstrates that an inner
> coffer
> > > could easily have been transported to the
> finished KC.
> > >
> > > If there were one, of course.
> > >
> > > Warwick
> >
> > It demonstrates that absolutely anything
> smaller
> > than and including the granite coffer could
> have
> > been easily transported to the finished KC
> through
> > the AC passageways.
> > Nothing larger than the granite coffer could
> have
> > been transported into the KC.
> >
> > So yes, you are correct in your observation. A
> > human being can be transported or transit into
> > into the KC.
>
> If you are correct about the box originally having
> relevance to the AC, then this goes back to the
> alleged granite portcullis blocks. If someone
> found the stone box inside the AC and moved it
> into the KC to get it out of the way, then why not
> just put the portcullis blocks in the KC as well?

If the portcullis blocks were of granite and of little worth too a tomb robber then this would seem reasonable.
If however they were comprised of a more valuable material, then their complete removal and consequent disappearance would seem a reasonable assumption.
This would apply to anything of value regardless of the structures possible purpose.


> While this could be a reason to argue that the
> box, therefore, wasn't found in the AC at all.
> However, it also raises a question about the
> granite portcullis blocks since neither the
> granite box nor granite portcullis blocks were
> ever reported by a credible source to have
> originally been found in the AC.

I doubt that a credible source could have reported a granite box within the AC, as to gain access the box had to have been pushed into the KC by those who made the first ever incursion. Probably in antiquity and probably treasure hunters or robbers with little interest in documenting and reporting the original 'as found' arrangement.

>
> In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> apparently was retrieved from
> outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> Petrie though might account for that), it's
> nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> disperse locations as...
>
>
    - Outside the Main Entrance
    > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow
    > in the Well Shaft
    > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to
    > the SC
    > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
>
> A far easier way to explain those various
> relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> that their original function was related to
> structural components in the local vicinity where
> they were found and not all the way up at the AC.

Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact pieces of portcullis blocks?
What evidence is there to support that idea?


> Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> that those granite fragments originally comprised
> portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> in the AC were occupied by something other than
> simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> which was taken away.

The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20-Nov-17 19:38 by Jon Ellison.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2457 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 368 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 385 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 329 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 346 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 287 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 328 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 338 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 253 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 341 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 276 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 280 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 215 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 338 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 176 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 244 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 406 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 336 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 308 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 260 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 262 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 275 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 252 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 300 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 312 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 274 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 252 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 208 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 210 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 159 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 245 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 229 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 225 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 310 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 242 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 241 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 239 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 254 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 196 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 206 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 276 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 163 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 239 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 206 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 174 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 172 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 187 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 181 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 220 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 232 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 183 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 255 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 175 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 170 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 194 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 168 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 222 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 155 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 222 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 187 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 304 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 262 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 224 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 171 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 253 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 288 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 355 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 324 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 342 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 197 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 189 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 194 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 212 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 178 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 208 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 288 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 448 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 211 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 176 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 150 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 147 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 138 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 142 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 156 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 194 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 179 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 179 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 154 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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