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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
> >
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>
> >
> > > this discussion demonstrates that an inner
> coffer
> > > could easily have been transported to the
> finished KC.
> > >
> > > If there were one, of course.
> > >
> > > Warwick
> >
> > It demonstrates that absolutely anything
> smaller
> > than and including the granite coffer could
> have
> > been easily transported to the finished KC
> through
> > the AC passageways.
> > Nothing larger than the granite coffer could
> have
> > been transported into the KC.
> >
> > So yes, you are correct in your observation. A
> > human being can be transported or transit into
> > into the KC.
>
> If you are correct about the box originally having
> relevance to the AC, then this goes back to the
> alleged granite portcullis blocks. If someone
> found the stone box inside the AC and moved it
> into the KC to get it out of the way, then why not
> just put the portcullis blocks in the KC as well?

If the portcullis blocks were of granite and of little worth too a tomb robber then this would seem reasonable.
If however they were comprised of a more valuable material, then their complete removal and consequent disappearance would seem a reasonable assumption.
This would apply to anything of value regardless of the structures possible purpose.


> While this could be a reason to argue that the
> box, therefore, wasn't found in the AC at all.
> However, it also raises a question about the
> granite portcullis blocks since neither the
> granite box nor granite portcullis blocks were
> ever reported by a credible source to have
> originally been found in the AC.

I doubt that a credible source could have reported a granite box within the AC, as to gain access the box had to have been pushed into the KC by those who made the first ever incursion. Probably in antiquity and probably treasure hunters or robbers with little interest in documenting and reporting the original 'as found' arrangement.

>
> In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> apparently was retrieved from
> outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> Petrie though might account for that), it's
> nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> disperse locations as...
>
>
    - Outside the Main Entrance
    > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow
    > in the Well Shaft
    > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to
    > the SC
    > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
>
> A far easier way to explain those various
> relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> that their original function was related to
> structural components in the local vicinity where
> they were found and not all the way up at the AC.

Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact pieces of portcullis blocks?
What evidence is there to support that idea?


> Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> that those granite fragments originally comprised
> portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> in the AC were occupied by something other than
> simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> which was taken away.

The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20-Nov-17 19:38 by Jon Ellison.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2580 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 390 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 428 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 347 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 363 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 316 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 355 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 359 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 271 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 378 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 293 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 301 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 236 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 381 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 198 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 273 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 444 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 362 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 376 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 275 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 317 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 301 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 286 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 318 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 343 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 296 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 291 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 225 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 226 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 178 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 262 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 243 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 244 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 336 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 259 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 272 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 268 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 273 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 216 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 224 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 329 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 176 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 263 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 225 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 199 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 194 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 211 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 222 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 244 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 257 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 210 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 281 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 196 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 195 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 219 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 192 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 241 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 177 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 236 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 214 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 326 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 292 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 241 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 198 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 311 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 318 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 408 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 341 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 357 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 225 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 219 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 215 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 233 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 199 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 239 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 317 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 514 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 228 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 193 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 166 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 173 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 153 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 171 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 171 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 212 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 199 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 209 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 187 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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