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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
> >
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>
> >
> > > this discussion demonstrates that an inner
> coffer
> > > could easily have been transported to the
> finished KC.
> > >
> > > If there were one, of course.
> > >
> > > Warwick
> >
> > It demonstrates that absolutely anything
> smaller
> > than and including the granite coffer could
> have
> > been easily transported to the finished KC
> through
> > the AC passageways.
> > Nothing larger than the granite coffer could
> have
> > been transported into the KC.
> >
> > So yes, you are correct in your observation. A
> > human being can be transported or transit into
> > into the KC.
>
> If you are correct about the box originally having
> relevance to the AC, then this goes back to the
> alleged granite portcullis blocks. If someone
> found the stone box inside the AC and moved it
> into the KC to get it out of the way, then why not
> just put the portcullis blocks in the KC as well?

If the portcullis blocks were of granite and of little worth too a tomb robber then this would seem reasonable.
If however they were comprised of a more valuable material, then their complete removal and consequent disappearance would seem a reasonable assumption.
This would apply to anything of value regardless of the structures possible purpose.


> While this could be a reason to argue that the
> box, therefore, wasn't found in the AC at all.
> However, it also raises a question about the
> granite portcullis blocks since neither the
> granite box nor granite portcullis blocks were
> ever reported by a credible source to have
> originally been found in the AC.

I doubt that a credible source could have reported a granite box within the AC, as to gain access the box had to have been pushed into the KC by those who made the first ever incursion. Probably in antiquity and probably treasure hunters or robbers with little interest in documenting and reporting the original 'as found' arrangement.

>
> In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> apparently was retrieved from
> outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> Petrie though might account for that), it's
> nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> disperse locations as...
>
>
    - Outside the Main Entrance
    > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow
    > in the Well Shaft
    > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to
    > the SC
    > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
>
> A far easier way to explain those various
> relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> that their original function was related to
> structural components in the local vicinity where
> they were found and not all the way up at the AC.

Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact pieces of portcullis blocks?
What evidence is there to support that idea?


> Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> that those granite fragments originally comprised
> portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> in the AC were occupied by something other than
> simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> which was taken away.

The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20-Nov-17 19:38 by Jon Ellison.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2625 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 398 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 448 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 364 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 382 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 337 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 361 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 379 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 290 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 394 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 301 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 306 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 243 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 389 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 204 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 291 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 451 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 381 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 383 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 281 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 340 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 308 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 293 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 322 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 351 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 314 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 297 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 240 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 243 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 204 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 268 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 250 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 248 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 343 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 266 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 292 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 275 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 281 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 222 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 232 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 347 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 191 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 268 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 230 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 204 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 198 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 227 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 227 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 249 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 263 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 226 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 296 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 203 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 216 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 235 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 199 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 245 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 182 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 250 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 224 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 333 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 307 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 254 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 217 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 318 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 327 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 415 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 356 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 362 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 232 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 223 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 219 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 239 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 220 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 257 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 346 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 557 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 248 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 209 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 171 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 179 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 170 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 191 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 176 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 217 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 219 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 224 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 212 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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