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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
> >
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>
> >
> > > this discussion demonstrates that an inner
> coffer
> > > could easily have been transported to the
> finished KC.
> > >
> > > If there were one, of course.
> > >
> > > Warwick
> >
> > It demonstrates that absolutely anything
> smaller
> > than and including the granite coffer could
> have
> > been easily transported to the finished KC
> through
> > the AC passageways.
> > Nothing larger than the granite coffer could
> have
> > been transported into the KC.
> >
> > So yes, you are correct in your observation. A
> > human being can be transported or transit into
> > into the KC.
>
> If you are correct about the box originally having
> relevance to the AC, then this goes back to the
> alleged granite portcullis blocks. If someone
> found the stone box inside the AC and moved it
> into the KC to get it out of the way, then why not
> just put the portcullis blocks in the KC as well?

If the portcullis blocks were of granite and of little worth too a tomb robber then this would seem reasonable.
If however they were comprised of a more valuable material, then their complete removal and consequent disappearance would seem a reasonable assumption.
This would apply to anything of value regardless of the structures possible purpose.


> While this could be a reason to argue that the
> box, therefore, wasn't found in the AC at all.
> However, it also raises a question about the
> granite portcullis blocks since neither the
> granite box nor granite portcullis blocks were
> ever reported by a credible source to have
> originally been found in the AC.

I doubt that a credible source could have reported a granite box within the AC, as to gain access the box had to have been pushed into the KC by those who made the first ever incursion. Probably in antiquity and probably treasure hunters or robbers with little interest in documenting and reporting the original 'as found' arrangement.

>
> In truth, regardless of the reason that the
> granite box was found in an askewed orientation in
> the KC, propped up by a piece of flint which
> apparently was retrieved from
> outside of G1 (for whatever reason
> Petrie though might account for that), it's
> nevertheless quite an enigma that those alleged
> granite porcullis fragments were found in such
> disperse locations as...
>
>
    - Outside the Main Entrance
    > - Wedged into the first 90 degree downward elbow
    > in the Well Shaft
    > - In the western recess of the short HP leading to
    > the SC
    > - At the lower step inside the Pit.
>
> A far easier way to explain those various
> relatively remote locations of those fragements is
> that their original function was related to
> structural components in the local vicinity where
> they were found and not all the way up at the AC.

Do we know for sure that the fragments are in fact pieces of portcullis blocks?
What evidence is there to support that idea?


> Likewise, the pattern of damage we see on the
> vertical ribs of the AC do not support the notion
> that those granite fragments originally comprised
> portcullis blocks in the AC. Rather, it seems far
> more plausible (to me at least) that the channels
> in the AC were occupied by something other than
> simply those granite blocks, something valuable
> which was taken away.

The pattern of damage on the vertical ribs is indicative of objects being removed in one piece.
If stone portcullis blocks were broken in order to remove them, then why the pattern of damage to the ribs?
Why break up both the ribs and the blocks?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20-Nov-17 19:38 by Jon Ellison.

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Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 2533 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 21:06
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 384 Sirfiroth 16-Nov-17 22:08
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 416 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:01
Irrelevant 340 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:26
Re: Irrelevant 357 Jon Ellison 17-Nov-17 09:01
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 310 Origyptian 16-Nov-17 23:10
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 347 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:18
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 353 Jon Ellison 16-Nov-17 23:27
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 265 cladking 17-Nov-17 15:35
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 370 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:43
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 287 cladking 18-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Wave form systems 292 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Wave form systems 228 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 18:41
Re: Wave form systems 360 Thunderbird 18-Nov-17 23:00
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 190 John B 12-Jan-18 23:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 263 Jon Ellison 13-Jan-18 00:02
W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 430 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Nov-17 00:24
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 353 Origyptian 17-Nov-17 04:32
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 340 Apap 17-Nov-17 23:01
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 270 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 09:35
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 295 Apap 21-Nov-17 00:55
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 290 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 06:08
on the other hand.... 273 Warwick 18-Nov-17 18:51
Re: on the other hand.... 311 Jon Ellison 18-Nov-17 19:41
Re: on the other hand.... 333 Origyptian 19-Nov-17 15:59
Re: on the other hand.... 287 Jon Ellison 20-Nov-17 19:13
Re: on the other hand.... 274 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 20:08
Re: on the other hand.... 219 DUNE 20-Nov-17 21:13
Re: on the other hand.... 220 Origyptian 20-Nov-17 22:39
Re: on the other hand.... 173 M. J. Thomas 20-Nov-17 23:53
Re: on the other hand.... 254 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 08:43
Re: on the other hand.... 237 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 09:48
Re: on the other hand.... 236 DUNE 21-Nov-17 10:29
Re: on the other hand.... 331 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 10:50
Re: on the other hand.... 252 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 11:19
Re: on the other hand.... 261 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 11:29
Re: on the other hand.... 260 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 13:38
Re: on the other hand.... 267 DUNE 21-Nov-17 15:54
Re: on the other hand.... 209 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:22
Re: on the other hand.... 220 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 16:30
Re: on the other hand.... 323 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 16:38
Re: on the other hand.... 171 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:48
Re: on the other hand.... 255 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:04
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 216 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 17:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 192 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:50
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 189 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 17:58
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 200 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 18:30
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 213 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 18:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 231 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:00
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 246 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:23
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 204 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:44
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 267 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 19:52
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 190 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:32
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 185 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 19:25
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 211 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 22:26
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 183 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 22:48
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 233 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 166 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:06
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 230 Jon Ellison 21-Nov-17 23:28
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 201 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 23:49
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 319 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 01:01
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 280 Thunderbird 21-Nov-17 18:51
Re: You gotta be kidding ! 235 M. J. Thomas 21-Nov-17 19:08
Re: on the other hand.... 190 Origyptian 21-Nov-17 17:43
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 295 Apap 22-Nov-17 18:14
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 307 Origyptian 22-Nov-17 19:13
Re: W. M. F. Petrie Speaks 383 Jon Ellison 22-Nov-17 22:02
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 334 Spiros 17-Nov-17 12:07
Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 351 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 02:31
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 216 Jon Ellison 25-Nov-17 11:26
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 208 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 206 Origyptian 25-Nov-17 19:02
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 228 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:08
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 190 Thunderbird 25-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 225 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:17
Re: Petrie Antechamber Groovy Grooves 306 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 01:57
Block Kings Chamber 494 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 10:38
Re: Block Kings Chamber 222 Open mind 12-Jan-18 06:32
Re: Block Kings Chamber 188 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 13:48
Re: Block Kings Chamber 159 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:07
Re: Block Kings Chamber 165 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:31
Re: Block Kings Chamber 148 Open mind 12-Jan-18 18:39
Re: Block Kings Chamber 154 Origyptian 12-Jan-18 18:47
Re: Block Kings Chamber 165 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:36
Re: Block Kings Chamber 205 Open mind 12-Jan-18 17:50
Re: Block Kings Chamber 189 Open mind 12-Jan-18 19:29
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 200 John B 12-Jan-18 21:57
Re: Great Pyramid, Kings Chamber, Coffer, Antechamber. 180 Jon Ellison 12-Jan-18 23:25


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