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Racho Wrote:
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> You a hammer and chisel schmuck like Warwick who
> refuses to consider modern conclusions or are you
> stuck in the Egyptological mud?
>
> Hammer and chisel your conclusion? If so...you
> aren't as intelligent as you think you are.
> ...ignoring overwhelming evidence to the
> contrary.
>
> All 'we' were hoping for, in the end, was for one
> of you traditionalists would admit that your
> theory of ancient Egypt/ancient history of
> mankind, is full of holes and that ya...other
> theories exist which, albeit fantastical, jive
> with the remnants of what remains.
>
> If you still believe in the current dogma... u r
> dumb.


A post to Dean from 2yrs ago:
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As I said to Sally: "Look, I think it goes without saying there is more at work here than hammers and chisels...".
Speaking of nuance, it should be understood by everyone by now, whoever or whenever one wishes these builders to be, despite whatever mysterious technology one can imagine they used, that it is a fact they also used mundane tools like hammers and chisels, pickaxes, saws, lathes, levers, drills, cranes, ect, ect right along side them. Many a conversation has been had, for example, about ancient quarrying and despite the fact we do it exactly the same way using the same exact tools which all have the same tool marks ect, most just refuse to accept it. Cue backfire effect. It just has to be something more amazing like lasers or port injection molding and whatnot despite the fact we have pictures of people doing exactly the same thing using the same exact tools depicted by ancient the tool marks. A massive block at Baalbek:

Chisel/axe marks (or the like) and lifting holes? Nope. Not amazing enough. Couldn't be. Had to be some kind of industrial machine or some kind of hand held laser cutter or whatnot. While I am the first to acknowledge there are some things not yet explained, maybe they never will, but I also acknowledge the actual evidence which also says they used hammers and chisels and cranes et al and good old fashioned blood sweat and tears right along side whatever as yet unknown technology they may have had. To accept the mundane does not refute the mysterious and if anything makes it more so.

From another thread to someone else:
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Read HERE
And HERE
And (scroll down to "Quarry marks (stone splitting):HERE

Another method was cutting a groove and inserting the wedges and wetting them:
19th century quarry, England:


G3, Giza:


The wedge quarrying technique was as ubiquitous in the ancient world no different than today. Large pieces were quarried and chiseled or sawed into smaller blocks. To ask where did the groove marks go is to ask where do any of them go which is either done by shaping them off and/or cutting them into smaller blocks using a different method.

From one of the links:
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Unrelated, but relevant as it is always talked about how "advanced" ancient technology would need to be and how we can't duplicate such feats even today:
Ancient times:





Modern times (most if not all of these are granite mind you):





Pick-axes, chisels, and mallets:


No different in the 21st century:


Notice how regularly shaped most of the blocks above are just from splitting.

More "advanced" technology: lifting block out of quarry:


Two pole trees, pulleys, chains (substitute rope).

Baalbek?

Nope. Mystery Hill: America's Stonehenge.
"Typical Example of Socket for the Vertical Mast of the Hoisting Crane":


19th Century quarry using quarry derrick cranes:



Today we just make them out of steel and use motorized power:


19th Century granite column transport wagon:

These granite columns were used in the New York Stock Exchange Building and are 30ft in length weighing 33tons.


None of the tools used in the 19th century are any different than what would have been available to the Romans or any other ancient culture for that matter. The tool marks and structures speak for themselves. What is amazing is how after thousands of years these tools and techniques have remained virtually unchanged and are still used today in the 21st century with the greatest innovations often being merely the materials and means of producing power. Hammers. Chisels. Crow bars. Simple cranes. Rope. Pulleys. Wagons and beasts of burden. Drills, routers, lathes, saws. These are the tools that built our world of stone from the most ancient times to today. There is fundamentally ZERO difference from a 19th century quarry to a Roman or even ancient Egyptian quarry. These "simple" tools are capable of amazing things which should no longer be a matter of debate here.

Instead of this insipid denialism of what the Romans were capable of or not we should be acknowledging that they are the benchmark of what the technology of the ancient world needed to be at a minimum to produce the great works that came before them. When we look at the advanced machining of ancient Egypt we see the tool marks of large drills, lathes, routers, cranes, and saws of which we all acknowledge are missing from the archeological record. But because they are missing does not mean they did not exist as the tool marks speak for themselves. There is no doubt there is a mystery to be had here, but it should be a given by now it is not all a mystery. Ancient peoples, including those in the 19th century, for thousands of years have accomplished amazing feats of stonework and engineering with the simplest of tools. Enough of the nonsense already.

Regardless, with all that being said: wagons do not move 1000 ton blocks. Copper saws, drills, and lathes do not cut granite in the manner evidenced by the tool marks themselves. Nor do handheld tools account for the mechanical precision often seen as well which when considering the precision placement can only mean they must have used cranes. By no means am I suggesting there was not tooling and materials of a higher order than even that of the Romans, but whatever these things were still adhere to the same principles. So just as stupid as it is to deny the abilities of ancient builders their due, it is equally inane to impose these same materials upon such works that clearly do not apply. This does not mean laser beams, sonic drills, or levitation-but it does mean we need to rethink what materials were accessible to them, something other than "copper", and apply at the very, very least the pinnacle of abilities and tools demonstrated by Roman engineering to these cut and dressed megalithic builders as well.

One thing I would question, is that when we look for advanced machining in the ancient world it is as a rule almost always found on the hardest stones such as granite and not limestone yet the latter is exponentially the most prevalent building material used. One of the few exceptions of note are the casing stones of G1. Instead what we often find on limestone, used in the same construction as the granite, is the tell-tale signs of pedestrian tools such as chisels, pick-axes, ect. If such advanced tooling were so prevalent it would be used on all stone, but it is not and the fact it is not suggests such tools were limited in their supply compared to common tools. Either they were very expensive and complicated to make and/or their initial supply was limited to begin with meaning they did not make more as time went on.

To digress, I know this is sacrilegious to some, but if you think about the megaliths of Baalbek the only advanced engineering that defies explanation is the moving and precision placement of such large blocks, otherwise there is nothing "advanced" about any of it in which they clearly used stone working tools no different than any other age: chisels, hammers, and pick-axes. So on the one hand we have a feat so amazing it defies explanation which for some can only be the work of aliens or advanced antediluvian civilizations, yet on the other everything else about those same blocks is completely mundane having been cut and shaped by the same "primitive" tools used by every stone working culture for thousands of years to the present day. Quite a paradox.

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Re: 5th chamber? 465 Spiros 05-Nov-17 19:03
another option 495 Spiros 02-Dec-17 09:43
Re: 5th chamber? 492 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:49
Chamber on Safari? n/t 464 cladking 08-Nov-17 14:13
Re: 5th chamber? 475 Spiros 20-Nov-17 16:22
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 526 gulsbo 04-Nov-17 09:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 476 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 09:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 432 Romulus the 2nd 04-Nov-17 11:27
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 515 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 11:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 473 Spiros 04-Nov-17 12:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 402 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:43
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 399 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:10
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 415 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 17:12
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 475 cladking 05-Nov-17 17:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 26 cladking 26-Feb-20 17:48
simple question 30 Warwick 26-Feb-20 17:59
Re: simple question 30 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 18:04
Re: simple question 29 cladking 26-Feb-20 18:59
Simple question Cladking cannot answer 27 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 19:11
We are being bamboozled by Egyptologists. 46 cladking 26-Feb-20 19:22
Re: Simple question Cladking cannot answer - and still won't 28 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 19:24
We are being bamboozled by Egyptologists. 26 cladking 26-Feb-20 19:39
Watch Cladking running from a question 25 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 20:27
Re: Watch Cladking running from a question 32 cladking 27-Feb-20 02:13
...and he runs while screaming gibberish 20 Hanslune 27-Feb-20 23:13
1939 26 cladking 26-Feb-20 18:53
Show us the science Cladking what are you hiding? 25 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 19:19
are you confused? 26 Warwick 26-Feb-20 20:28
Re: are you confused? 32 Hanslune 26-Feb-20 20:46
Re: are you confused? 36 cladking 26-Feb-20 23:11
Re: are you confused? 26 Warwick 27-Feb-20 18:50
Re: are you confused? 29 cladking 27-Feb-20 21:28
Re: are you confused? 39 Hanslune 27-Feb-20 23:17
IOW's... 29 Warwick 01-Mar-20 19:08
Re: are you confused? 22 Hanslune 27-Feb-20 23:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 492 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:31
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 442 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:51
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 433 Origyptian 08-Nov-17 13:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 441 Jon Ellison 08-Nov-17 13:52
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 500 Susan Doris 04-Nov-17 16:30
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 470 cladking 04-Nov-17 17:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 467 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:59
Update***** (wonderful news) 609 cladking 04-Nov-17 19:17
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 574 Poster Boy 04-Nov-17 21:56
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 607 Archaic 05-Nov-17 02:22
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 507 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 14:45
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 420 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:13
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 499 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 15:19
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 447 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:25
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 400 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 15:34
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 512 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:51
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 449 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:07
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 450 Origyptian 08-Nov-17 13:31
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 495 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 06:13
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 457 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 08:21
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 417 Origyptian 09-Nov-17 11:53
HOLY MOLAR! 641 Poster Boy 04-Nov-17 21:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 553 Nejc01 04-Nov-17 23:34
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 454 Romulus the 2nd 05-Nov-17 23:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 456 Billy K 06-Nov-17 13:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 386 Nolondil 11-Feb-18 21:50
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 462 Dr. Troglodyte 12-Feb-18 00:08
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 423 SandyJesse 28-Feb-18 00:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 454 M. J. Thomas 28-Feb-18 00:55
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 502 SandyJesse 04-Mar-18 23:54
Re: Grand Gallery slots 370 M. J. Thomas 07-Mar-18 11:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 354 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:18
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 346 Jon Ellison 06-Mar-18 23:48
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 383 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 387 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 14:46
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 372 kborissov 05-Apr-18 19:23
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 335 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-18 22:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 358 kborissov 07-Apr-18 00:48
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 278 Sirfiroth 07-Apr-18 13:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 302 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 305 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:31
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 402 kborissov 07-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 381 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 23:52
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 399 Jon Ellison 07-Mar-18 09:59
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 394 Origyptian 07-Mar-18 14:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 413 cladking 07-Mar-18 15:37
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 349 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 15:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 425 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 22:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 66 Trevorjjj 19-Feb-20 21:03
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 24 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-20 19:16
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 454 Steve Clayton 21-Mar-18 22:53
Cavern in the Great Pyramid.... 310 Itatw70s 17-Sep-18 16:09
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 294 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Sep-18 17:20
New chamber found in great pyramid, actually two...... 366 Itatw70s 17-Sep-18 22:27
Mod Caution > Triplicate Topic Merged 398 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Sep-18 12:41


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