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... but you still need thousands of
> people to build a complex like Giza, and i havent
> seen any evidence of a pre existing society with
> those requirements needed to do a Giza , so it
> looks like the 4th Dynasty time is the correct
> time for G1's inception.
>
> Uhh, what?? Have you not heard of Gobekli Tepe?
> It's practially right around the corner from Giza.
> The site is so huge most of it will never be
> excavated. Megalithic stones, beautiful skilled
> artistry, high relief sculpture, profound
> knowledge and understanding of astronomy,
> geometry, statics. Demonstrable ability to quarry,
> transport, balance and place megalithic stones of
> enormous weight with precision.
>
> This does not qualify in your mind as a culture
> that could construct the larger monuments at
> Giza?
>
> If you don't like that one, there's evidence of
> another candidate culture in Indonesia. Gunung
> Padang has returned dates as far back as 25,000
> years ago in its deepest layers(which also appear
> to have the largest megalithic blocks, as usual).
> The Sulawesi valley nearby is liberally sprinkled
> with strange, ancient monolithic sculptures,
> huddled in rice fields, skulking beneath the dark
> waters of jungle swamps, looming in the shadows
> beneath the trees. There are numerous gigantic
> stone vases scattered about as well, complete with
> fitted lids that have high relief feline and
> lizard sculptures on top. And those containers
> look identical to the stone "jars" in Laos,
> Cambodia, of which there are thousands, scattered
> across the plains (and surrounded by minefields,
> unfortunately).
> The feline and lizard high relief sculptures on
> the lids of the jars look extraordinarily similar
> to high relief sculptures found on the cyclopean
> blocks of the Chullpa towers in Peru and Bolivia
> and on the huge pillowed megaliths in the jagged
> walls of Sacsayhuaman above Cuzco. There are even
> a few lizard reliefs found on blocks in cyclopean,
> heterogeneous, dry laid masonry platform walls on
> Easter Island. And the Moai of Easter Island are
> all shown with their arms to the sides, curving
> forward with their hands placed just above the
> belt, which has a curious 'H' shaped buckle, and
> their hands have distinctively long, tapering
> fingers. This is weirdly similar to the highly
> stylized anthropomorphic T pillars at the center
> of each ring in Gobekli Tepe, which have the same
> 'H' shaped belt buckle, same arm position, and
> same odd, long, narrow, tapering fingers.... and
> we're back where we started.
>
> This is very good evidence of a global,
> globetrotting, advanced, megalithic genius culture
> in deep, deep antiquity. The height of their
> ascendance was somewhere way back in the ice age;
> very little evidence of them remains aside from
> their megalithic constructions. The ELE at the
> Pleistocene/Holocene boundary erased them almost
> entirely.

There are plenty of ancient artifacts and ruins that can't be accounted for by known bones.

Who did Stonehenge?
Who did Baalbek?
Who did Gobekli?
Who did all that fancy stonework in the Andes?
What else lies deep underground that we haven't yet discovered as we continue to scratch the surface?

The list goes on and on. I'm quite sure we don't have evidence of every intelligent population that lived on this planet. We mostly only have evidence of the most recent cultures whose remains are still on the surface of the Earth. We've only recovered a handful of human remains from Cro Magnon, but that doesn't mean only a handful of them roamed the Earth. And the farther back you go, the more scarce the evidence becomes.

If a harsh global catastrophe strikes the earth, I have no problem with the possibility that regardless how "advanced" civilization might be during peaceful times, the few who survive could very well wind up living in caves, wearing furs, and trying to figure out how to start a fire all over again using rocks and twigs.

This is not farfetched. It's what would happen if only a few survived to rebuild civilization from scratch. And as far as we know, it could have happened several times throughout many millennia.

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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 532 Scott Creighton 03-Nov-17 10:13
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 231 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:31
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