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Scott Creighton Wrote:
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> Hello Dune,
>
> From your image:
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DP: "was this section slid into place after
> the restoration guys patched up the
> crakes[sic] with all that plaster, and
> while they were there inscribed Khufu's
> cartouche?"
>
> I doubt this, Dennis. You have to ask why an AE
> 'legitimately' inscribing the Khufu cartouche onto
> an in-situ roof block would want to paint the
> script onto the block sideways and not
> right-way-up. I find it simply inconceivable that
> the AEs would have written script
> sideways/upside-down onto in-situ blocks. However,
> if you wished to present the illusion that
> the marks were inscribed prior to the blocks being
> placed (i.e. at the quarry ergo the marks must be
> genuine), then this sideways / upside-down writing
> is precisely what you would do with in-situ
> blocks (as well as restricting the script to
> individual blocks).
>
> Regards,
>
> SC

Hi Scott,

Good to see you back on this site,

Why paint it sideways ? you ask, well , could it be a simple matter of running out of room if it was painted horizontally, im not sure of the exact dimensions of the block and cartouche but when the painter, (who ever that was) looked at the width of that block he may have thought there might not be enough room for the cartouche and the follower's word, whereas turning it upside down as you term it would give them all the room they needed , as it would seem they began their painting from the bottom going up.
As for its timescale for when it got put on, at this moment in time im open to both scenarios, its a modern fake, or its an old fake, i say old fake because it may be the Khufu gang were the last of the workers to get in there, maybe 20 years or more after the initial work began, and this Khufu guy finished of the build under some sort of Co-regent deal with another king of that day , who knows, so maybe not so much an ancient fake more one of a later adoption by the guys who finished the work.
I think it plausible considering by the time they got above Campbell's chamber a good 25 to 30 years must have gone by from when the plan was drawn up, how many years was taken up with building all the canals and boats to carry all those massive stones , where are the boats that carry 60 tonnes , at least show me the drawings of these massive boats, so yea still some very awkward questions that need to be answered, but you still need thousands of people to build a complex like Giza, and i havent seen any evidence of a pre existing society with those requirements needed to do a Giza , so it looks like the 4th Dynasty time is the correct time for G1's inception.

Hers a couple of pics taken by Colette Dowell, [www.robertschoch.net]

Judge for yourself. would you have put it horizontally , or upright, was there enough room, put yourself in the shoes of the painter, (assuming one believes of an in situ application).








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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 473 Archaic 02-Nov-17 14:18
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Re: Only quickly glanced at this old post...a prediction come true? 277 Steve Clayton 19-Mar-18 00:15
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 495 Scott Creighton 03-Nov-17 10:13
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 299 DUNE 06-Nov-17 16:26
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