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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Archaic Wrote:
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> > > I agree, their work had nothing to do with
> > > Egyptology.
> >
> > What contribution or impact could Egyptology
> > possibly have on this discovery of a large void
> inside the pyramid?
> > It's a purely scientific and technical
> enterprise.
> > It looks like an attempt to steal the laurels or
> the discoverers.
> > Will the SCA just deny the scientific evidence
> and
> > ignore it as they did with Schoch's Sphinx
> chamber?
>
> It was a strange complaint from the Egyptians.
> They didn't seem to complain that the Japanese
> published the science. It's that they didn't want
> the Japanese to claim they discovered a new
> passage or chamber, as though it was only the
> right of Egyptologists to make that claim. The
> compalint clearly states that the Egyptologists
> have known all along there were other chambers
> that hadn't been "discovered" yet (a strange
> concept in itself). The way I read it, the
> Egyptians didn't specifically state they didn't
> want those guys to publish the paper, they only
> wanted them to run it by the authorities
> first. I assume the terms of the research were
> very clear but that it may be that the Japanese
> secretly submitted it anyway since they couched
> their findings in terms of the technological
> measurements rather than in terms of archaeology
> and Egyptology. Note that the three authorities
> the Egyptians cite in their complaint are
> Egyptologists, not scientists. Why would they do
> that unless it was part of the the formal terms of
> the agreement?
>
> Don't forget, that a year ago they already
> publlicly disclosed that the void above the main
> entrance. Perhaps at some point the Egyptologists
> didn't consider the void at the top of the GG to
> be related to the void above the main entrance
> (and other strange concept), so the Japanese ran
> with that technicality to take the opportunity to
> claim it's different void that they discovered
> this time. Perhaps the Japanese didn't like how
> the Egyptologists reported that first void, so
> this time they took matters into their own hands.

I think there were two different scanning positions. The void above the entrance was discovered scanning upward from the
DP AP intersection, the equipment was then moved to the QC, again scanning upward resulting in the discovery of the large void. It's possible that the two voids are connected but any inter-connecting structure is outside the field of view of both scans. Blind arc's.???

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> The other investigators who were previously
> blacklisted (perhaps even including Whitehead)
> didn't have a quid pro quo hanging out to
> the Egyptians, so it'll be interesting to see if
> there's any "unanticipated delays" in completing
> that Japanese-funded $100M museum.

The Japanese prime motive may be to demonstrate the viability of their technology. Something like Ballard and the Titanic, an opportunity for public demonstration and announcement. Ballard had little real interest in the shipwreck and the real mission was military and classified so couldn't be publicly announced. If the Egyptologist want to censor and lock down there's little in it for the Japanese team.

If it is a chamber maybe it should be called the 'Nagoya Chamber'?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03-Nov-17 11:42 by Jon Ellison.

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Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 4926 Loki74 02-Nov-17 12:23
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 1013 Origyptian 02-Nov-17 12:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 910 Archaic 02-Nov-17 13:42
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 657 D-Archer 03-Nov-17 10:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 580 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 10:18
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 579 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 10:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 713 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 15:10
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 596 Origyptian 02-Nov-17 22:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 610 Thanos5150 03-Nov-17 04:45
Relieving Chambers? 701 Apap 03-Nov-17 23:20
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 717 Susan Doris 02-Nov-17 13:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 601 Loki74 02-Nov-17 13:54
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 543 Hanslune 02-Nov-17 14:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 572 Archaic 02-Nov-17 13:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 606 Loki74 02-Nov-17 13:53
Found it 566 Archaic 02-Nov-17 14:16
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 642 cladking 02-Nov-17 14:02
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 543 Archaic 02-Nov-17 14:18
Only quickly glanced at this old post...a prediction come true? 381 Racho 09-Nov-17 22:50
Re: Only quickly glanced at this old post...a prediction come true? 531 cladking 09-Nov-17 22:58
Re: Only quickly glanced at this old post...a prediction come true? 332 Steve Clayton 19-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 559 Hanslune 02-Nov-17 14:12
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 520 Spiros 02-Nov-17 15:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 464 Archaic 02-Nov-17 15:20
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 489 Spiros 02-Nov-17 15:55
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 429 Spiros 03-Nov-17 01:38
Raw Data 601 cladking 02-Nov-17 15:45
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 641 cladking 02-Nov-17 17:22
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 542 Archaic 02-Nov-17 17:29
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 481 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 463 Archaic 02-Nov-17 19:30
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 451 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 20:11
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 481 Archaic 02-Nov-17 20:40
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 370 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 21:03
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 386 Archaic 02-Nov-17 21:14
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 424 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 21:20
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 417 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 21:15
The paper with the actual report 509 Hanslune 02-Nov-17 22:21
Re: The paper with the actual report 456 waggy 03-Nov-17 00:32
Re: The paper with the actual report 438 Archaic 03-Nov-17 00:54
Re: The paper with the actual report 403 Origyptian 03-Nov-17 01:03
Re: The paper with the actual report 387 Archaic 03-Nov-17 01:09
Re: The paper with the actual report 430 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 01:11
Re: The paper with the actual report 427 Archaic 03-Nov-17 01:37
Re: The paper with the actual report 388 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 08:30
Re: The paper with the actual report 387 Origyptian 03-Nov-17 10:50
Re: The paper with the actual report 418 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 11:11
Re: The paper with the actual report 391 cladking 03-Nov-17 13:02
Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 723 Barbelo 03-Nov-17 02:26
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 519 Archaic 03-Nov-17 02:39
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 485 Susan Doris 03-Nov-17 06:09
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 430 M. J. Thomas 03-Nov-17 10:56
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 413 Susan Doris 03-Nov-17 13:56
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 441 M. J. Thomas 03-Nov-17 10:52
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 422 Susan Doris 03-Nov-17 14:01
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 445 Barbelo 03-Nov-17 20:22
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber n/t 451 cladking 03-Nov-17 21:23
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 566 Scott Creighton 03-Nov-17 10:13
Re: Some Further Comments... 457 Scott Creighton 05-Nov-17 14:52
Found It.... 501 Scott Creighton 08-Nov-17 19:19
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 468 cladking 03-Nov-17 17:30
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 495 eyeofhorus33 03-Nov-17 17:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 484 DUNE 03-Nov-17 18:02
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 496 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 432 DUNE 03-Nov-17 19:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 460 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 580 xez 06-Nov-17 06:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 407 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 10:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 370 Origyptian 06-Nov-17 11:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 390 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 11:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 365 DUNE 06-Nov-17 12:09
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 362 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 12:42
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 432 DUNE 06-Nov-17 13:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 375 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 13:45
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 369 Spiros 06-Nov-17 16:51
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 365 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 19:11
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 394 Spiros 06-Nov-17 19:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 470 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 20:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 489 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 10:47
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 357 DUNE 07-Nov-17 13:29
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 371 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 13:47
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 471 DUNE 07-Nov-17 14:59
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 372 Origyptian 06-Nov-17 14:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 411 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 15:17
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 358 DUNE 06-Nov-17 16:26
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 491 Scott Creighton 04-Nov-17 10:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 427 DUNE 04-Nov-17 15:45
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 402 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 16:31
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 364 DUNE 04-Nov-17 16:50
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 346 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 17:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 448 Thanos5150 04-Nov-17 16:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 426 Scott Creighton 04-Nov-17 16:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 363 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 20:51
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 385 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 23:02
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 413 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:55
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 394 Spiros 04-Nov-17 06:06
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 382 cladking 03-Nov-17 18:21
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 394 cladking 03-Nov-17 20:04
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 384 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 21:21
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 458 cladking 03-Nov-17 21:27
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 375 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 22:29
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 377 cladking 04-Nov-17 01:29
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 416 Hanslune 04-Nov-17 05:19
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 433 Origyptian 04-Nov-17 05:35
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 466 Hanslune 04-Nov-17 05:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 427 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 10:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 365 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:03
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 347 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 14:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 342 cladking 05-Nov-17 14:35
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 394 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 15:06
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 378 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 451 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:12
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 355 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 14:06
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 408 cladking 05-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 403 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 15:10
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 396 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:17
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 330 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 17:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 371 cladking 05-Nov-17 17:50
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 343 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 14:35
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 408 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:08
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 417 Racho 08-Nov-17 07:27
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 455 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 09:18
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 421 Jon Ellison 08-Nov-17 13:57
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 386 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 06:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 436 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 09:20
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 354 Origyptian 09-Nov-17 12:14
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 434 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 12:37
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 360 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 344 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 09:11
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 401 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 348 eyeofhorus33 04-Nov-17 17:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 381 DUNE 04-Nov-17 18:17
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 372 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 19:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 394 DUNE 04-Nov-17 19:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 378 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:59
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 417 cladking 04-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 347 cladking 16-Mar-18 02:03
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 397 cladking 04-Nov-17 19:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 299 cladking 04-Nov-17 19:25
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 394 Romulus the 2nd 03-Nov-17 22:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 397 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 22:34
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 422 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:25
5th chamber? 557 Spiros 04-Nov-17 07:32
Re: 5th chamber? 446 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:22
Re: 5th chamber? 433 Spiros 05-Nov-17 14:27
Re: 5th chamber? 391 Spiros 05-Nov-17 18:08
Re: 5th chamber? 363 cladking 05-Nov-17 18:22
Re: 5th chamber? 422 Spiros 05-Nov-17 19:03
another option 452 Spiros 02-Dec-17 09:43
Re: 5th chamber? 424 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:49
Chamber on Safari? n/t 401 cladking 08-Nov-17 14:13
Re: 5th chamber? 427 Spiros 20-Nov-17 16:22
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 463 gulsbo 04-Nov-17 09:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 426 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 09:44
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 461 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 11:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 417 Spiros 04-Nov-17 12:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 358 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:43
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 338 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:10
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 348 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 17:12
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 428 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:31
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Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 368 Origyptian 08-Nov-17 13:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 378 Jon Ellison 08-Nov-17 13:52
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 436 Susan Doris 04-Nov-17 16:30
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 410 cladking 04-Nov-17 17:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 396 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:59
Update***** (wonderful news) 553 cladking 04-Nov-17 19:17
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 514 Poster Boy 04-Nov-17 21:56
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 546 Archaic 05-Nov-17 02:22
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 446 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 14:45
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 359 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:13
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Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 335 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 15:34
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Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 372 Origyptian 09-Nov-17 11:53
HOLY MOLAR! 575 Poster Boy 04-Nov-17 21:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 497 Nejc01 04-Nov-17 23:34
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 405 Romulus the 2nd 05-Nov-17 23:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 409 Billy K 06-Nov-17 13:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 349 Nolondil 11-Feb-18 21:50
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 409 Dr. Troglodyte 12-Feb-18 00:08
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 363 SandyJesse 28-Feb-18 00:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 413 M. J. Thomas 28-Feb-18 00:55
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 435 SandyJesse 04-Mar-18 23:54
Re: Grand Gallery slots 314 M. J. Thomas 07-Mar-18 11:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 312 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:18
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 309 Jon Ellison 06-Mar-18 23:48
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 328 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 317 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 14:46
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 328 kborissov 05-Apr-18 19:23
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 273 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-18 22:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 302 kborissov 07-Apr-18 00:48
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 227 Sirfiroth 07-Apr-18 13:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 262 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 254 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:31
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 342 kborissov 07-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 332 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 23:52
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 352 Jon Ellison 07-Mar-18 09:59
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 318 Origyptian 07-Mar-18 14:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 325 cladking 07-Mar-18 15:37
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 305 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 15:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 361 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 22:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 401 Steve Clayton 21-Mar-18 22:53
Cavern in the Great Pyramid.... 261 Itatw70s 17-Sep-18 16:09
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 250 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Sep-18 17:20
New chamber found in great pyramid, actually two...... 301 Itatw70s 17-Sep-18 22:27
Mod Caution > Triplicate Topic Merged 341 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Sep-18 12:41


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