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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Archaic Wrote:
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> > > I agree, their work had nothing to do with
> > > Egyptology.
> >
> > What contribution or impact could Egyptology
> > possibly have on this discovery of a large void
> inside the pyramid?
> > It's a purely scientific and technical
> enterprise.
> > It looks like an attempt to steal the laurels or
> the discoverers.
> > Will the SCA just deny the scientific evidence
> and
> > ignore it as they did with Schoch's Sphinx
> chamber?
>
> It was a strange complaint from the Egyptians.
> They didn't seem to complain that the Japanese
> published the science. It's that they didn't want
> the Japanese to claim they discovered a new
> passage or chamber, as though it was only the
> right of Egyptologists to make that claim. The
> compalint clearly states that the Egyptologists
> have known all along there were other chambers
> that hadn't been "discovered" yet (a strange
> concept in itself). The way I read it, the
> Egyptians didn't specifically state they didn't
> want those guys to publish the paper, they only
> wanted them to run it by the authorities
> first. I assume the terms of the research were
> very clear but that it may be that the Japanese
> secretly submitted it anyway since they couched
> their findings in terms of the technological
> measurements rather than in terms of archaeology
> and Egyptology. Note that the three authorities
> the Egyptians cite in their complaint are
> Egyptologists, not scientists. Why would they do
> that unless it was part of the the formal terms of
> the agreement?
>
> Don't forget, that a year ago they already
> publlicly disclosed that the void above the main
> entrance. Perhaps at some point the Egyptologists
> didn't consider the void at the top of the GG to
> be related to the void above the main entrance
> (and other strange concept), so the Japanese ran
> with that technicality to take the opportunity to
> claim it's different void that they discovered
> this time. Perhaps the Japanese didn't like how
> the Egyptologists reported that first void, so
> this time they took matters into their own hands.

I think there were two different scanning positions. The void above the entrance was discovered scanning upward from the
DP AP intersection, the equipment was then moved to the QC, again scanning upward resulting in the discovery of the large void. It's possible that the two voids are connected but any inter-connecting structure is outside the field of view of both scans. Blind arc's.???

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> The other investigators who were previously
> blacklisted (perhaps even including Whitehead)
> didn't have a quid pro quo hanging out to
> the Egyptians, so it'll be interesting to see if
> there's any "unanticipated delays" in completing
> that Japanese-funded $100M museum.

The Japanese prime motive may be to demonstrate the viability of their technology. Something like Ballard and the Titanic, an opportunity for public demonstration and announcement. Ballard had little real interest in the shipwreck and the real mission was military and classified so couldn't be publicly announced. If the Egyptologist want to censor and lock down there's little in it for the Japanese team.

If it is a chamber maybe it should be called the 'Nagoya Chamber'?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03-Nov-17 11:42 by Jon Ellison.

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Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 4725 Loki74 02-Nov-17 12:23
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 939 Origyptian 02-Nov-17 12:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 820 Archaic 02-Nov-17 13:42
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 568 D-Archer 03-Nov-17 10:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 504 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 10:18
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 506 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 10:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 643 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 15:10
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 515 Origyptian 02-Nov-17 22:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 526 Thanos5150 03-Nov-17 04:45
Relieving Chambers? 543 Apap 03-Nov-17 23:20
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 640 Susan Doris 02-Nov-17 13:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 532 Loki74 02-Nov-17 13:54
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 483 Hanslune 02-Nov-17 14:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 506 Archaic 02-Nov-17 13:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 532 Loki74 02-Nov-17 13:53
Found it 499 Archaic 02-Nov-17 14:16
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 552 cladking 02-Nov-17 14:02
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 471 Archaic 02-Nov-17 14:18
Only quickly glanced at this old post...a prediction come true? 307 Racho 09-Nov-17 22:50
Re: Only quickly glanced at this old post...a prediction come true? 453 cladking 09-Nov-17 22:58
Re: Only quickly glanced at this old post...a prediction come true? 273 Steve Clayton 19-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 492 Hanslune 02-Nov-17 14:12
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 454 Spiros 02-Nov-17 15:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 395 Archaic 02-Nov-17 15:20
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 419 Spiros 02-Nov-17 15:55
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 358 Spiros 03-Nov-17 01:38
Raw Data 540 cladking 02-Nov-17 15:45
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 570 cladking 02-Nov-17 17:22
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 471 Archaic 02-Nov-17 17:29
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 413 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 376 Archaic 02-Nov-17 19:30
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 388 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 20:11
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 399 Archaic 02-Nov-17 20:40
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 291 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 21:03
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 326 Archaic 02-Nov-17 21:14
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 341 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 21:20
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 344 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 21:15
The paper with the actual report 428 Hanslune 02-Nov-17 22:21
Re: The paper with the actual report 366 waggy 03-Nov-17 00:32
Re: The paper with the actual report 350 Archaic 03-Nov-17 00:54
Re: The paper with the actual report 336 Origyptian 03-Nov-17 01:03
Re: The paper with the actual report 326 Archaic 03-Nov-17 01:09
Re: The paper with the actual report 351 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 01:11
Re: The paper with the actual report 333 Archaic 03-Nov-17 01:37
Re: The paper with the actual report 332 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 08:30
Re: The paper with the actual report 321 Origyptian 03-Nov-17 10:50
Re: The paper with the actual report 332 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 11:11
Re: The paper with the actual report 324 cladking 03-Nov-17 13:02
Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 624 Barbelo 03-Nov-17 02:26
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 443 Archaic 03-Nov-17 02:39
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 421 Susan Doris 03-Nov-17 06:09
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 358 M. J. Thomas 03-Nov-17 10:56
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 346 Susan Doris 03-Nov-17 13:56
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 363 M. J. Thomas 03-Nov-17 10:52
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 355 Susan Doris 03-Nov-17 14:01
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 377 Barbelo 03-Nov-17 20:22
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber n/t 379 cladking 03-Nov-17 21:23
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 492 Scott Creighton 03-Nov-17 10:13
Re: Some Further Comments... 383 Scott Creighton 05-Nov-17 14:52
Found It.... 432 Scott Creighton 08-Nov-17 19:19
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 411 cladking 03-Nov-17 17:30
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 424 eyeofhorus33 03-Nov-17 17:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 414 DUNE 03-Nov-17 18:02
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 425 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 355 DUNE 03-Nov-17 19:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 381 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 514 xez 06-Nov-17 06:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 321 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 10:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 307 Origyptian 06-Nov-17 11:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 329 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 11:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 298 DUNE 06-Nov-17 12:09
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 295 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 12:42
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 367 DUNE 06-Nov-17 13:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 294 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 13:45
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 297 Spiros 06-Nov-17 16:51
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 293 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 19:11
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 324 Spiros 06-Nov-17 19:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 414 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 20:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 414 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 10:47
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 282 DUNE 07-Nov-17 13:29
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 286 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 13:47
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 404 DUNE 07-Nov-17 14:59
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 295 Origyptian 06-Nov-17 14:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 344 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 15:17
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 298 DUNE 06-Nov-17 16:26
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 407 Scott Creighton 04-Nov-17 10:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 344 DUNE 04-Nov-17 15:45
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 328 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 16:31
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 288 DUNE 04-Nov-17 16:50
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 280 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 17:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 348 Thanos5150 04-Nov-17 16:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 346 Scott Creighton 04-Nov-17 16:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 280 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 20:51
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 306 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 23:02
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 333 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:55
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 330 Spiros 04-Nov-17 06:06
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 321 cladking 03-Nov-17 18:21
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 320 cladking 03-Nov-17 20:04
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 315 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 21:21
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 394 cladking 03-Nov-17 21:27
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 299 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 22:29
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 297 cladking 04-Nov-17 01:29
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 354 Hanslune 04-Nov-17 05:19
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 361 Origyptian 04-Nov-17 05:35
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 383 Hanslune 04-Nov-17 05:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 361 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 10:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 280 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:03
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 270 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 14:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 273 cladking 05-Nov-17 14:35
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 320 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 15:06
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 311 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 358 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:12
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 282 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 14:06
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 344 cladking 05-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 331 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 15:10
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 325 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:17
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 269 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 17:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 294 cladking 05-Nov-17 17:50
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 283 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 14:35
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 338 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:08
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 344 Racho 08-Nov-17 07:27
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 383 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 09:18
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 359 Jon Ellison 08-Nov-17 13:57
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 319 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 06:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 364 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 09:20
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 290 Origyptian 09-Nov-17 12:14
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 362 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 12:37
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 301 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 287 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 09:11
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 331 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 296 eyeofhorus33 04-Nov-17 17:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 310 DUNE 04-Nov-17 18:17
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 306 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 19:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 319 DUNE 04-Nov-17 19:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 314 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:59
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 343 cladking 04-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 282 cladking 16-Mar-18 02:03
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 332 cladking 04-Nov-17 19:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 252 cladking 04-Nov-17 19:25
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 329 Romulus the 2nd 03-Nov-17 22:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 323 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 22:34
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 348 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:25
5th chamber? 496 Spiros 04-Nov-17 07:32
Re: 5th chamber? 372 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:22
Re: 5th chamber? 370 Spiros 05-Nov-17 14:27
Re: 5th chamber? 327 Spiros 05-Nov-17 18:08
Re: 5th chamber? 301 cladking 05-Nov-17 18:22
Re: 5th chamber? 358 Spiros 05-Nov-17 19:03
another option 394 Spiros 02-Dec-17 09:43
Re: 5th chamber? 356 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:49
Chamber on Safari? n/t 326 cladking 08-Nov-17 14:13
Re: 5th chamber? 346 Spiros 20-Nov-17 16:22
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 371 gulsbo 04-Nov-17 09:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 358 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 09:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 307 Romulus the 2nd 04-Nov-17 11:27
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 355 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 11:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 358 Spiros 04-Nov-17 12:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 280 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:43
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 279 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:10
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 291 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 17:12
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 339 cladking 05-Nov-17 17:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 361 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:31
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 316 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:51
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 305 Origyptian 08-Nov-17 13:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 319 Jon Ellison 08-Nov-17 13:52
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 372 Susan Doris 04-Nov-17 16:30
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 329 cladking 04-Nov-17 17:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 333 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:59
Update***** (wonderful news) 480 cladking 04-Nov-17 19:17
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 443 Poster Boy 04-Nov-17 21:56
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 471 Archaic 05-Nov-17 02:22
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 383 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 14:45
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 296 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:13
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 361 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 15:19
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 317 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:25
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 281 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 15:34
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 376 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:51
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 332 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:07
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 352 Origyptian 08-Nov-17 13:31
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 355 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 06:13
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 333 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 08:21
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 306 Origyptian 09-Nov-17 11:53
HOLY MOLAR! 486 Poster Boy 04-Nov-17 21:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 439 Nejc01 04-Nov-17 23:34
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 343 Romulus the 2nd 05-Nov-17 23:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 333 Billy K 06-Nov-17 13:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 269 Nolondil 11-Feb-18 21:50
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 330 Dr. Troglodyte 12-Feb-18 00:08
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 290 SandyJesse 28-Feb-18 00:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 347 M. J. Thomas 28-Feb-18 00:55
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 324 SandyJesse 04-Mar-18 23:54
Re: Grand Gallery slots 250 M. J. Thomas 07-Mar-18 11:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 251 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:18
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 233 Jon Ellison 06-Mar-18 23:48
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 269 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 237 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 14:46
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 251 kborissov 05-Apr-18 19:23
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 203 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-18 22:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 223 kborissov 07-Apr-18 00:48
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 178 Sirfiroth 07-Apr-18 13:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 198 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 191 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:31
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 261 kborissov 07-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 265 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 23:52
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 282 Jon Ellison 07-Mar-18 09:59
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 245 Origyptian 07-Mar-18 14:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 237 cladking 07-Mar-18 15:37
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 245 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 15:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 289 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 22:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 324 Steve Clayton 21-Mar-18 22:53
Cavern in the Great Pyramid.... 179 Itatw70s 17-Sep-18 16:09
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 178 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Sep-18 17:20
New chamber found in great pyramid, actually two...... 238 Itatw70s 17-Sep-18 22:27
Mod Caution > Triplicate Topic Merged 250 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Sep-18 12:41


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