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Origyptian Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Archaic Wrote:
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> > > I agree, their work had nothing to do with
> > > Egyptology.
> >
> > What contribution or impact could Egyptology
> > possibly have on this discovery of a large void
> inside the pyramid?
> > It's a purely scientific and technical
> enterprise.
> > It looks like an attempt to steal the laurels or
> the discoverers.
> > Will the SCA just deny the scientific evidence
> and
> > ignore it as they did with Schoch's Sphinx
> chamber?
>
> It was a strange complaint from the Egyptians.
> They didn't seem to complain that the Japanese
> published the science. It's that they didn't want
> the Japanese to claim they discovered a new
> passage or chamber, as though it was only the
> right of Egyptologists to make that claim. The
> compalint clearly states that the Egyptologists
> have known all along there were other chambers
> that hadn't been "discovered" yet (a strange
> concept in itself). The way I read it, the
> Egyptians didn't specifically state they didn't
> want those guys to publish the paper, they only
> wanted them to run it by the authorities
> first. I assume the terms of the research were
> very clear but that it may be that the Japanese
> secretly submitted it anyway since they couched
> their findings in terms of the technological
> measurements rather than in terms of archaeology
> and Egyptology. Note that the three authorities
> the Egyptians cite in their complaint are
> Egyptologists, not scientists. Why would they do
> that unless it was part of the the formal terms of
> the agreement?
>
> Don't forget, that a year ago they already
> publlicly disclosed that the void above the main
> entrance. Perhaps at some point the Egyptologists
> didn't consider the void at the top of the GG to
> be related to the void above the main entrance
> (and other strange concept), so the Japanese ran
> with that technicality to take the opportunity to
> claim it's different void that they discovered
> this time. Perhaps the Japanese didn't like how
> the Egyptologists reported that first void, so
> this time they took matters into their own hands.

I think there were two different scanning positions. The void above the entrance was discovered scanning upward from the
DP AP intersection, the equipment was then moved to the QC, again scanning upward resulting in the discovery of the large void. It's possible that the two voids are connected but any inter-connecting structure is outside the field of view of both scans. Blind arc's.???

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> The other investigators who were previously
> blacklisted (perhaps even including Whitehead)
> didn't have a quid pro quo hanging out to
> the Egyptians, so it'll be interesting to see if
> there's any "unanticipated delays" in completing
> that Japanese-funded $100M museum.

The Japanese prime motive may be to demonstrate the viability of their technology. Something like Ballard and the Titanic, an opportunity for public demonstration and announcement. Ballard had little real interest in the shipwreck and the real mission was military and classified so couldn't be publicly announced. If the Egyptologist want to censor and lock down there's little in it for the Japanese team.

If it is a chamber maybe it should be called the 'Nagoya Chamber'?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03-Nov-17 11:42 by Jon Ellison.

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Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 4773 Loki74 02-Nov-17 12:23
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 960 Origyptian 02-Nov-17 12:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 848 Archaic 02-Nov-17 13:42
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 589 D-Archer 03-Nov-17 10:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 526 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 10:18
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 523 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 10:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 662 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 15:10
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 530 Origyptian 02-Nov-17 22:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 547 Thanos5150 03-Nov-17 04:45
Relieving Chambers? 589 Apap 03-Nov-17 23:20
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 660 Susan Doris 02-Nov-17 13:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 551 Loki74 02-Nov-17 13:54
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 500 Hanslune 02-Nov-17 14:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 521 Archaic 02-Nov-17 13:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 557 Loki74 02-Nov-17 13:53
Found it 514 Archaic 02-Nov-17 14:16
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 572 cladking 02-Nov-17 14:02
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 490 Archaic 02-Nov-17 14:18
Only quickly glanced at this old post...a prediction come true? 321 Racho 09-Nov-17 22:50
Re: Only quickly glanced at this old post...a prediction come true? 471 cladking 09-Nov-17 22:58
Re: Only quickly glanced at this old post...a prediction come true? 294 Steve Clayton 19-Mar-18 00:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 511 Hanslune 02-Nov-17 14:12
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 470 Spiros 02-Nov-17 15:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 412 Archaic 02-Nov-17 15:20
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 440 Spiros 02-Nov-17 15:55
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 375 Spiros 03-Nov-17 01:38
Raw Data 552 cladking 02-Nov-17 15:45
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 589 cladking 02-Nov-17 17:22
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 490 Archaic 02-Nov-17 17:29
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 432 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 394 Archaic 02-Nov-17 19:30
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 402 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 20:11
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 419 Archaic 02-Nov-17 20:40
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 311 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 21:03
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 341 Archaic 02-Nov-17 21:14
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 355 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 21:20
Re: Raw Data (now with picture) 362 Jon Ellison 02-Nov-17 21:15
The paper with the actual report 447 Hanslune 02-Nov-17 22:21
Re: The paper with the actual report 386 waggy 03-Nov-17 00:32
Re: The paper with the actual report 368 Archaic 03-Nov-17 00:54
Re: The paper with the actual report 358 Origyptian 03-Nov-17 01:03
Re: The paper with the actual report 341 Archaic 03-Nov-17 01:09
Re: The paper with the actual report 366 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 01:11
Re: The paper with the actual report 349 Archaic 03-Nov-17 01:37
Re: The paper with the actual report 346 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 08:30
Re: The paper with the actual report 340 Origyptian 03-Nov-17 10:50
Re: The paper with the actual report 352 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 11:11
Re: The paper with the actual report 346 cladking 03-Nov-17 13:02
Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 647 Barbelo 03-Nov-17 02:26
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 460 Archaic 03-Nov-17 02:39
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 438 Susan Doris 03-Nov-17 06:09
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 375 M. J. Thomas 03-Nov-17 10:56
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 365 Susan Doris 03-Nov-17 13:56
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 383 M. J. Thomas 03-Nov-17 10:52
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 372 Susan Doris 03-Nov-17 14:01
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber 396 Barbelo 03-Nov-17 20:22
Re: Khufu's Secret Burial Chamber n/t 395 cladking 03-Nov-17 21:23
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 511 Scott Creighton 03-Nov-17 10:13
Re: Some Further Comments... 400 Scott Creighton 05-Nov-17 14:52
Found It.... 457 Scott Creighton 08-Nov-17 19:19
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 426 cladking 03-Nov-17 17:30
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 442 eyeofhorus33 03-Nov-17 17:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 428 DUNE 03-Nov-17 18:02
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 443 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 370 DUNE 03-Nov-17 19:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 405 Jon Ellison 03-Nov-17 20:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 532 xez 06-Nov-17 06:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 337 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 10:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 325 Origyptian 06-Nov-17 11:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 346 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 11:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 319 DUNE 06-Nov-17 12:09
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 312 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 12:42
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 385 DUNE 06-Nov-17 13:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 311 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 13:45
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 314 Spiros 06-Nov-17 16:51
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 310 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 19:11
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 342 Spiros 06-Nov-17 19:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 426 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 20:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 428 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 10:47
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 304 DUNE 07-Nov-17 13:29
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 307 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 13:47
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 420 DUNE 07-Nov-17 14:59
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 314 Origyptian 06-Nov-17 14:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 363 Jon Ellison 06-Nov-17 15:17
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 314 DUNE 06-Nov-17 16:26
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 427 Scott Creighton 04-Nov-17 10:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 360 DUNE 04-Nov-17 15:45
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 346 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 16:31
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 311 DUNE 04-Nov-17 16:50
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 296 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 17:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 369 Thanos5150 04-Nov-17 16:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 360 Scott Creighton 04-Nov-17 16:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 297 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 20:51
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 325 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 23:02
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 355 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:55
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 348 Spiros 04-Nov-17 06:06
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 342 cladking 03-Nov-17 18:21
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 338 cladking 03-Nov-17 20:04
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 329 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 21:21
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 410 cladking 03-Nov-17 21:27
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 321 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 22:29
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 315 cladking 04-Nov-17 01:29
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 371 Hanslune 04-Nov-17 05:19
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 374 Origyptian 04-Nov-17 05:35
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 411 Hanslune 04-Nov-17 05:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 382 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 10:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 300 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:03
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 283 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 14:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 290 cladking 05-Nov-17 14:35
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 334 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 15:06
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 327 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 377 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:12
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 299 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 14:06
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 364 cladking 05-Nov-17 14:58
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 346 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 15:10
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 344 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:17
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 283 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 17:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 313 cladking 05-Nov-17 17:50
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 298 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 14:35
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 358 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:08
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 368 Racho 08-Nov-17 07:27
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 404 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 09:18
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 375 Jon Ellison 08-Nov-17 13:57
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 339 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 06:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 385 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 09:20
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 313 Origyptian 09-Nov-17 12:14
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 382 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 12:37
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 320 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:01
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 302 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 09:11
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 349 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 313 eyeofhorus33 04-Nov-17 17:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 327 DUNE 04-Nov-17 18:17
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 324 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 19:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 332 DUNE 04-Nov-17 19:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 332 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:59
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 363 cladking 04-Nov-17 18:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 299 cladking 16-Mar-18 02:03
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 351 cladking 04-Nov-17 19:00
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 266 cladking 04-Nov-17 19:25
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 349 Romulus the 2nd 03-Nov-17 22:24
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 339 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 22:34
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 371 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:25
5th chamber? 515 Spiros 04-Nov-17 07:32
Re: 5th chamber? 390 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:22
Re: 5th chamber? 389 Spiros 05-Nov-17 14:27
Re: 5th chamber? 347 Spiros 05-Nov-17 18:08
Re: 5th chamber? 316 cladking 05-Nov-17 18:22
Re: 5th chamber? 375 Spiros 05-Nov-17 19:03
another option 411 Spiros 02-Dec-17 09:43
Re: 5th chamber? 377 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:49
Chamber on Safari? n/t 346 cladking 08-Nov-17 14:13
Re: 5th chamber? 366 Spiros 20-Nov-17 16:22
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 392 gulsbo 04-Nov-17 09:32
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 380 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 09:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 320 Romulus the 2nd 04-Nov-17 11:27
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 376 Jon Ellison 04-Nov-17 11:44
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 377 Spiros 04-Nov-17 12:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 295 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 13:43
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 295 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:10
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 311 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 17:12
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 359 cladking 05-Nov-17 17:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 378 cladking 04-Nov-17 13:31
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 336 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:51
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 319 Origyptian 08-Nov-17 13:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 335 Jon Ellison 08-Nov-17 13:52
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 391 Susan Doris 04-Nov-17 16:30
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 343 cladking 04-Nov-17 17:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 351 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 07:59
Update***** (wonderful news) 503 cladking 04-Nov-17 19:17
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 463 Poster Boy 04-Nov-17 21:56
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 485 Archaic 05-Nov-17 02:22
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 397 Origyptian 05-Nov-17 14:45
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 314 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:13
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 377 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 15:19
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 330 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:25
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 294 Jon Ellison 05-Nov-17 15:34
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 395 cladking 05-Nov-17 15:51
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 349 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:07
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 366 Origyptian 08-Nov-17 13:31
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 378 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 06:13
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 355 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 08:21
Re: Update***** (wonderful news) 321 Origyptian 09-Nov-17 11:53
HOLY MOLAR! 501 Poster Boy 04-Nov-17 21:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 454 Nejc01 04-Nov-17 23:34
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 358 Romulus the 2nd 05-Nov-17 23:49
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 349 Billy K 06-Nov-17 13:07
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 293 Nolondil 11-Feb-18 21:50
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 348 Dr. Troglodyte 12-Feb-18 00:08
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 321 SandyJesse 28-Feb-18 00:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 364 M. J. Thomas 28-Feb-18 00:55
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 352 SandyJesse 04-Mar-18 23:54
Re: Grand Gallery slots 268 M. J. Thomas 07-Mar-18 11:13
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 269 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 23:18
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 248 Jon Ellison 06-Mar-18 23:48
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 287 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 23:53
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 254 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 14:46
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 270 kborissov 05-Apr-18 19:23
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 223 Steve Clayton 06-Apr-18 22:33
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 243 kborissov 07-Apr-18 00:48
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 192 Sirfiroth 07-Apr-18 13:40
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 218 cladking 07-Apr-18 14:28
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 207 Origyptian 07-Apr-18 16:31
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 282 kborissov 07-Apr-18 16:39
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 285 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 23:52
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 297 Jon Ellison 07-Mar-18 09:59
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 268 Origyptian 07-Mar-18 14:15
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 264 cladking 07-Mar-18 15:37
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 264 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 15:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 310 Steve Clayton 07-Mar-18 22:56
Re: Huge cavity discovered within Great Pyramid 347 Steve Clayton 21-Mar-18 22:53
Cavern in the Great Pyramid.... 200 Itatw70s 17-Sep-18 16:09
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 199 Dr. Troglodyte 17-Sep-18 17:20
New chamber found in great pyramid, actually two...... 259 Itatw70s 17-Sep-18 22:27
Mod Caution > Triplicate Topic Merged 279 Dr. Troglodyte 20-Sep-18 12:41


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