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cladking Wrote:
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> Today most people imagine an entire hierarchy of
> sun addled bumpkins and everyone is in agreement
> that by the time the industrial revolution was in
> full swing the human race was busily outgrowing
> the savagery and brutishness associated with being
> ignorant and superstitious. Everywhere they look
> in the past they see evidence of knuckle dragging
> and belief in many gods. Somehow most can't even
> see the remarkable objects that somehow stood the
> test of time and are clear evidence of extensive
> knowledge, artistry, and unknown technology. For
> most individuals today our position at the crown
> of creation takes precedence over even the truth.
> We would rather have wrong beliefs about of our
> ancestors than find we don't alone occupy the
> position of alpha and omega species of all time.

Yep. I have worked in construction and heavy industry for most of my life, as has my brother and our father. From the first breaking of ground to the completion of final touches, we are intimately aware of what is required in all phases of the erection of large buildings, including many things most people don't even think about. The problems inherent in the tranportation and handling of extremely heavy loads is impossible to understand without having taken part in it; the "examples" given in archaeology where some professor uses slave labor(undergrads) to shift a block or statue weighing a couple of tons across a few yards of flat surface in order to "prove" the contention that ancient people could have built this or that megalithic edifice using the million-guys-with-ropes method just drive me insane. The difficulty of heavy load handling does not scale directly proportional to the weight of the load, it is more like an exponential or logarithmic scale relationship. Moving 100 tons is not 10 times more difficult than moving 10 tons, it is many many thousands of times more difficult, especially when you reach the point where materials begin to fail(wooden log rollers would be flattened by 100+ ton blocks, for example). Thus, handling a 5 ton weight does not demonstrate that, given 4 times the manpower, a 20 ton weight can be handled, much less lifted, moved through treacherous terrain, or be placed with minute precision. But there are many examples of people dragging a few tons back and forth and then claiming to have "proven" the concept. It's akin to carrying a brick across your backyard and then claiming you have proven you could build a house.

But generally people don't know these things, and academia especially is full of people who specialize in theory rather than reality(mechanical engineers who couldn't change out a flat tire on a car, for example). Archaeology especially seems reluctant to reach out to the relevant specialties for consultation when constructing their narratives of history. Hell, they don't really want their academic collegues involved for the most part, as we can see in Egypt where modern tech has been only sporadically utilized, if at all. They definitely don't want construction contractors in there laughing at their notions of how the pyramids were built.

Ignorance of some details and the willful obfuscation of others, plus politics as usual and the desire for money and power, have led to this prevailing notion of linear development and the automatic relegation of our ancestors to sun-addled hairy dudes in buttflaps with stinky feet. So people stand before the pyramids and figure, it couldn't have been that hard, we could definitely do it if we wanted to. After all, we have pants and boots and daily hygiene. This is what I think JAW was illustrating when he joked about modern "advanced" civilization with its "striped toothpaste and bobble-head dolls" .


> The Egyptians seem especially the focus of insults
> and so many of them seem to relate to foot care
> and their lack of it. "Hairy dudes in buttflaps"
> seems to tie in rather nicely with stinky feet.

Yeah. Don't you feel like you could toss up a few pyramids if you felt like it? You got clean feet, you have pants. Can't be that hard, right?




> Dassault Systems offered to pay for the thermal
> imaging way back in ~'12 and it took this long to
> let them do it for free. Now they still can't get
> the credit for it since they still aren't allowed
> to release results.
>
> The amount of money that flows into maintaining
> the status quo is simply staggering but they can't
> seem to find a few dollars to run tests that can
> be done nearly for free. For example a nearby
> elementary school could make discovering the
> nature of the dust floating on the water in the
> Osiris Shaft a class project. They'd need a
> little help with the write-up.
>
> > Which they would never allow, or at least
> wouldn't
> > release the results to the public. They
> squealed
> > like stuck pigs when some of Vyse's forgery
> paint
> > was sampled for the purposes of dating.
>
> > ....or at the least it gives people a chance to
> > hide or destroy it if it bucks prevailing
> theory.
>
> Somehow Egyptologists got the idea they are the
> sole judge of reality as it applies to ancient
> Egypt. They treat scientists who are sometimes
> allowed in to do testing as some sort of second
> class citizens. While I don't approve of anyone
> taking samples without official sanction it seems
> that those making the decisions should not be
> Egyptologists. The very fact that no testing has
> ever been done systematically at Giza proves they
> are not up to the task of making such decisions.
> The little testing that has been allowed has just
> been a hodgepodge of technology thrown at the
> structure with no follow up of any sort. Right no
> there's a perfectly good thermal anomaly still
> cooling its heals.

One could almost think they don't want the answers modern techniques could provide, or something, isn't it?


> It certainly seems we are bumpkins and it's yet
> to be proven that the ancients were bumpkins or
> not.

I'm sure there were bumpkins in ancient times, no need to prove that. But I'm also sure the people who built the pyramids or Sacsayhuaman or Tiahuanaco were not bumpkins.

They may have had stinky feet tho, and were periodically sun-addled. After a day's work in the heat, I sometimes come home sun-addled with stinky feet(I never feel compelled to don a buttflap though).

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The King as Pyramid 8385 cladking 27-Oct-17 16:38
Re: The King as Pyramid 912 Manu 27-Oct-17 17:46
Re: The King as Pyramid 847 cladking 27-Oct-17 18:20
Re: The King as Pyramid 727 cladking 28-Oct-17 00:05
Re: The King as Pyramid 692 Spiros 28-Oct-17 07:04
Re: The King as Pyramid 820 cladking 28-Oct-17 14:32
Re: The King as Pyramid 669 cladking 30-Oct-17 15:41
Re: The King as Pyramid 713 cladking 04-Nov-17 14:49
Re: The King as Pyramid 702 Spiros 04-Nov-17 15:38
Re: The King as Pyramid 687 cladking 05-Nov-17 01:13
Re: The King as Pyramid 1122 Tsurugi 24-Nov-17 02:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 634 cladking 24-Nov-17 14:34
Re: The King as Pyramid 501 cladking 16-Feb-18 17:22
Re: The King as Pyramid 711 cladking 27-Oct-17 22:18
Re: The King as Pyramid 710 cladking 27-Oct-17 23:51
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 1076 cladking 29-Oct-17 14:39
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 572 Thunderbird 29-Oct-17 16:15
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 693 cladking 30-Oct-17 02:07
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 566 Hanslune 31-Oct-17 18:42
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 572 cladking 31-Oct-17 19:14
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 580 Hanslune 01-Nov-17 05:13
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 573 cladking 01-Nov-17 04:43
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 724 Hanslune 01-Nov-17 05:14
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 655 cladking 01-Nov-17 14:04
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 574 Hanslune 02-Nov-17 16:18
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 595 cladking 02-Nov-17 20:11
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 564 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 02:17
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 572 cladking 03-Nov-17 03:34
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 549 Hanslune 03-Nov-17 03:57
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 800 cladking 03-Nov-17 04:27
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 558 Manu 25-Feb-18 19:12
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 516 cladking 25-Feb-18 21:34
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 565 Manu 25-Feb-18 23:59
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 633 cladking 27-Feb-18 14:48
Re: The King as Miracle Worker 597 Tsurugi 24-Nov-17 03:12
Re: The King as Pyramid 753 cladking 01-Nov-17 03:52
Re: The King as Pyramid 620 cladking 01-Nov-17 04:06
Re: The King as Pyramid 579 Tsurugi 24-Nov-17 03:25
Re: The King as Pyramid 567 cladking 24-Nov-17 14:47
Re: The King as Pyramid 676 Tsurugi 25-Nov-17 06:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 634 cladking 25-Nov-17 14:59
Re: The King as Pyramid 536 Tsurugi 27-Nov-17 03:50
The Kings... 521 Racho 27-Nov-17 05:52
Re: The Kings... 617 Tsurugi 28-Nov-17 06:31
Re: The King as Pyramid 549 Jon Ellison 27-Nov-17 09:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 564 Tsurugi 28-Nov-17 06:35
Re: The King as Pyramid 568 cladking 27-Nov-17 15:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 595 Tsurugi 28-Nov-17 07:04
Re: The King as Pyramid 574 cladking 28-Nov-17 14:33
Re: The King as Pyramid 626 Tsurugi 29-Nov-17 10:32
Re: The King as Pyramid 705 cladking 29-Nov-17 14:50
Re: The King as Pyramid 598 Origyptian 29-Nov-17 15:10
Re: The King as Pyramid 628 Scott Creighton 01-Nov-17 17:00
Re: The King as Pyramid 780 cladking 01-Nov-17 17:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 708 eyeofhorus33 01-Nov-17 17:52
The King as Pyramid 667 Scott Creighton 02-Nov-17 01:11
The Wind Keeps Blowing Hard 659 Barbelo 02-Nov-17 01:33
Re: The King as Pyramid 547 eyeofhorus33 24-Nov-17 17:25
Re: The King as Pyramid 577 Scott Creighton 25-Nov-17 16:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 732 Thanos5150 02-Nov-17 06:17
Re: The King as Pyramid 805 Scott Creighton 02-Nov-17 09:55
Re: The King as Pyramid 584 Warwick 25-Nov-17 16:59
Re: The King as Pyramid 669 cladking 25-Nov-17 22:49
Wrong!! 572 Warwick 26-Nov-17 01:03
Re: Wrong!! 567 cladking 26-Nov-17 01:24
Re: Wrong!! 631 Warwick 26-Nov-17 02:20
Re: Wrong!! 565 Origyptian 26-Nov-17 10:49
Re: Wrong!! 583 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 11:25
Disco Reborn! n/t 564 cladking 26-Nov-17 14:04
Re: Wrong!! 556 Tsurugi 27-Nov-17 04:03
Eternal Life 568 Warwick 27-Nov-17 20:21
Re: Eternal Life 583 Corpuscles 27-Nov-17 21:21
Re: Eternal Life 597 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:10
Re: Wrong!! 550 Warwick 27-Nov-17 20:11
Re: Wrong!! 570 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 06:58
Re: Wrong!! 611 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 07:21
Re: The King as Pyramid 705 Thanos5150 26-Nov-17 18:33
Re: The King as Pyramid 560 Thanos5150 26-Nov-17 20:23
Re: The King as Pyramid 517 Corpuscles 27-Nov-17 02:45
Re: The King as Pyramid 581 Origyptian 26-Nov-17 23:29
Re: The King as Pyramid 706 cladking 27-Nov-17 02:45
Re: The King as Pyramid 614 Thanos5150 27-Nov-17 16:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 711 cladking 27-Nov-17 18:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 567 Warwick 27-Nov-17 20:09
One word 545 Warwick 27-Nov-17 14:04
fwiw 579 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:16
Re: fwiw 598 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:21
Re: fwiw 583 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:25
Re: fwiw 582 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:31
Re: fwiw 574 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:38
assuming of course, 572 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:27
Re: The King as Pyramid 617 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:05
Re: The King as Pyramid 525 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:14
Re: The King as Pyramid 595 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:21
Re: The King as Pyramid 538 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:30
Symbolism 594 Warwick 28-Nov-17 16:43
Re: Symbolism 597 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:54
that's it!! 527 Warwick 28-Nov-17 17:20
Re: Symbolism 597 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 16:57
please pay attention 561 Warwick 28-Nov-17 17:14
Re: please pay attention 540 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 17:28
Eureka 590 Warwick 28-Nov-17 17:35
Re: Eureka 591 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 17:47
Re: The King as Pyramid 569 Thanos5150 28-Nov-17 17:44
Re: The King as Pyramid 591 Warwick 28-Nov-17 17:57
Re: The King as Pyramid 547 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 18:07
Re: The King as Pyramid 582 Warwick 28-Nov-17 19:32
Re: The King as Pyramid 593 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 20:38
Re: The King as Pyramid 628 Warwick 28-Nov-17 21:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 669 cladking 28-Nov-17 23:18
Re: The King as Pyramid 570 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 23:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 556 Warwick 29-Nov-17 16:47
Re: The King as Pyramid 564 cladking 28-Nov-17 23:28
a simple question 596 Warwick 29-Nov-17 17:02
Re: a simple question 571 cladking 29-Nov-17 17:14
"reality.... 598 Warwick 29-Nov-17 17:24
Re: "reality.... 655 cladking 29-Nov-17 17:56
Re: The King as Pyramid 652 Thanos5150 29-Nov-17 00:52
typo 625 Warwick 29-Nov-17 16:56
Re: typo 616 Thanos5150 29-Nov-17 17:52
It Represented the Dead King. 687 cladking 30-Nov-17 15:47
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 558 Warwick 02-Dec-17 17:19
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 545 cladking 02-Dec-17 18:44
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 534 Warwick 02-Dec-17 18:56
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 517 cladking 02-Dec-17 19:06
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 528 Warwick 02-Dec-17 19:36
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 678 cladking 02-Dec-17 20:18
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 670 Warwick 03-Dec-17 17:15
Re: It Represented the Dead King. 621 cladking 29-Jan-18 15:21
Re: The King as Pyramid 658 cladking 28-Nov-17 19:50
Now wait a minute 655 Warwick 28-Nov-17 20:07
Re: Now wait a minute 593 cladking 29-Nov-17 00:02
Re: Now wait a minute 600 Warwick 29-Nov-17 16:33
Re: Now wait a minute 667 cladking 29-Nov-17 17:28
alt 671 Warwick 29-Nov-17 18:42
Re: alt 623 cladking 29-Nov-17 22:43
Re: The King as Pyramid 807 cladking 19-Dec-17 03:11
Re: The King as Pyramid 217 cladking 22-Jun-19 13:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 189 cladking 24-Jun-19 02:35
Eureka!! -deleted 549 cladking 28-Jan-18 18:44
Re: The King as Pyramid 508 cladking 05-Feb-18 16:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 513 Eddie Larry 05-Feb-18 16:30
Re: The King as Pyramid 599 cladking 05-Feb-18 17:00
Re: The King as Pyramid 540 cladking 07-Feb-18 00:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 550 cladking 07-Feb-18 01:04
Re: The King as Pyramid 516 cladking 07-Feb-18 01:12
Re: The King as Pyramid 514 cladking 07-Feb-18 01:18
They Refuse to Read it. 521 cladking 07-Feb-18 01:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 558 cladking 07-Feb-18 01:48
Re: The King as Pyramid 526 cladking 08-Feb-18 02:41
Re: The King as Pyramid 566 cladking 08-Feb-18 03:06
Re: The King as Pyramid 561 cladking 10-Feb-18 01:49
Re: The King as Pyramid 541 cladking 11-Feb-18 19:06
Re: The King as Pyramid 516 cladking 14-Feb-18 01:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 477 cladking 14-Feb-18 02:05
Re: The King as Pyramid 489 kborissov 14-Feb-18 02:45
Re: The King as Pyramid 490 cladking 14-Feb-18 03:07
Re: The King as Pyramid 503 kborissov 23-Feb-18 17:49
Re: The King as Pyramid 496 cladking 23-Feb-18 18:22
Re: The King as Pyramid 520 cladking 14-Feb-18 03:00
Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 581 Barbelo 14-Feb-18 03:50
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 502 cladking 14-Feb-18 15:08
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 499 Warwick 14-Feb-18 16:44
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 436 cladking 14-Feb-18 16:57
Translation 476 Warwick 14-Feb-18 18:43
Re: Translation 469 cladking 14-Feb-18 19:14
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 482 Barbelo 14-Feb-18 20:11
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 483 cladking 14-Feb-18 20:22
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 492 Barbelo 14-Feb-18 21:53
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 503 cladking 15-Feb-18 02:47
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 515 Barbelo 15-Feb-18 04:40
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 475 cladking 15-Feb-18 13:40
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 494 kborissov 15-Feb-18 14:44
Re: Why Don't You Improve Your Understanding? 484 cladking 15-Feb-18 15:05
kborissov is right 507 Barbelo 15-Feb-18 20:37
Re: kborissov is right 464 cladking 16-Feb-18 01:52
Re: kborissov is right 466 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 02:50
Re: kborissov is right 470 cladking 16-Feb-18 03:51
Carbonated Water 452 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 04:07
Re: Carbonated Water 465 Warwick 16-Feb-18 08:54
Re: Carbonated Water 482 cladking 16-Feb-18 15:27
Re: Carbonated Water 440 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 20:10
Re: Carbonated Water 502 cladking 16-Feb-18 20:38
Re: Carbonated Water 458 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 21:10
Don't Blink! 542 cladking 16-Feb-18 21:24
Fizzer 441 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 22:54
Re: Fizzer 503 cladking 16-Feb-18 23:02
Re: Fizzer 445 Thanos5150 17-Feb-18 00:29
Re: Fizzer 481 cladking 17-Feb-18 02:27
Re: Fizzer 419 Thanos5150 17-Feb-18 04:24
Re: Fizzer 559 cladking 17-Feb-18 20:15
Re: kborissov is right 470 Corpuscles 16-Feb-18 05:00
Tension Is Mounting 487 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 05:28
Re: Tension Is Mounting 496 cladking 16-Feb-18 14:11
Re: Tension Is Mounting 447 Barbelo 16-Feb-18 20:23
Re: Tension Is Mounting 463 cladking 16-Feb-18 21:18
Re: Tension Is Mounting 450 Thanos5150 17-Feb-18 00:15
Re: Tension Is Mounting 429 cladking 17-Feb-18 02:37
Re: Tension Is Mounting 450 Barbelo 17-Feb-18 04:06
Re: Tension Is Mounting 426 Thanos5150 17-Feb-18 04:31
Re: Tension Is Mounting 448 cladking 17-Feb-18 13:47
Re: Tension Is Mounting 487 Origyptian 17-Feb-18 05:44
Re: Tension Is Mounting 454 cladking 17-Feb-18 14:29
Re: Tension Is Mounting 438 Morten 17-Feb-18 15:05
Re: Tension Is Mounting 464 cladking 17-Feb-18 15:39
Re: Tension Is Mounting 448 cladking 17-Feb-18 15:17
Re: Tension Is Mounting 440 cladking 17-Feb-18 15:26
Re: Tension Is Mounting 436 cladking 17-Feb-18 02:42
Re: kborissov is right 481 cladking 16-Feb-18 14:44
Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 498 Corpuscles 18-Feb-18 21:34
Re: Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 509 cladking 18-Feb-18 23:00
Re: Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 498 Corpuscles 18-Feb-18 23:29
When Your Goose Is Cooked 470 Barbelo 18-Feb-18 23:53
Re: Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 505 cladking 19-Feb-18 01:04
Re: Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 493 Warwick 19-Feb-18 16:44
Assumptions vs Evidence. 837 cladking 19-Feb-18 17:44
Re: Cladking's - Geyser - Funicular Construction technique 520 cladking 19-Feb-18 03:24
Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 472 Corpuscles 21-Feb-18 02:03
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 501 cladking 21-Feb-18 03:02
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 484 Corpuscles 22-Feb-18 15:01
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 442 cladking 22-Feb-18 15:23
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 442 Corpuscles 22-Feb-18 15:54
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 501 Steve Clayton 22-Feb-18 18:39
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 437 cladking 22-Feb-18 19:05
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 505 Steve Clayton 22-Feb-18 20:54
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 473 cladking 22-Feb-18 21:22
What Is Osiris? 445 Barbelo 22-Feb-18 22:00
Re: What Is Osiris? 442 cladking 22-Feb-18 22:32
Osiris Was A Geyser : Debunked 480 Barbelo 22-Feb-18 22:52
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 466 Steve Clayton 23-Feb-18 01:43
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 437 Corpuscles 22-Feb-18 21:59
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 495 Steve Clayton 24-Feb-18 02:31
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 519 cladking 24-Feb-18 02:54
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 500 Steve Clayton 24-Feb-18 19:48
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 519 cladking 24-Feb-18 22:08
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 462 Steve Clayton 28-Feb-18 02:46
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 480 cladking 28-Feb-18 03:18
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 485 cladking 22-Feb-18 19:19
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 448 Steve Clayton 24-Feb-18 20:03
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 467 cladking 24-Feb-18 21:05
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 469 cladking 24-Feb-18 21:15
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 500 Steve Clayton 25-Feb-18 18:21
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 482 cladking 25-Feb-18 22:46
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 556 Steve Clayton 26-Feb-18 00:10
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 522 Thanos5150 22-Feb-18 16:20
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 446 Thanos5150 22-Feb-18 16:46
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 458 Corpuscles 22-Feb-18 16:47
Nonsense! 454 cladking 22-Feb-18 19:43
Re: Nonsense! 505 Warwick 22-Feb-18 20:14
Bon Appetit 479 Barbelo 22-Feb-18 20:07
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 477 cladking 22-Feb-18 19:34
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 475 Corpuscles 22-Feb-18 21:19
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 455 cladking 22-Feb-18 22:46
So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 491 Barbelo 22-Feb-18 23:01
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 450 cladking 22-Feb-18 23:13
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 512 Barbelo 23-Feb-18 00:40
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 493 Origyptian 23-Feb-18 13:48
So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 466 Barbelo 23-Feb-18 20:44
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 451 cladking 23-Feb-18 21:39
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 492 Origyptian 24-Feb-18 03:18
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 448 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 05:37
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 467 Origyptian 24-Feb-18 12:02
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 479 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 19:50
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 479 cladking 24-Feb-18 20:51
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 473 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 21:11
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 486 cladking 24-Feb-18 21:28
Origyptian Believes Geysers Built Pyramids 454 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 23:38
Re: Origyptian Believes Geysers Built Pyramids 466 cladking 25-Feb-18 00:21
Re: Origyptian Believes Geysers Built Pyramids 462 Barbelo 25-Feb-18 01:00
Re: Origyptian Believes Geysers Built Pyramids 449 cladking 25-Feb-18 01:50
Re: Origyptian Believes Geysers Built Pyramids 479 Origyptian 25-Feb-18 04:05
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 449 Thanos5150 25-Feb-18 01:31
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 434 cladking 25-Feb-18 01:47
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 459 Thanos5150 25-Feb-18 02:09
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 425 cladking 25-Feb-18 03:20
Re: More deflections and indefensible assertions 473 Origyptian 25-Feb-18 03:34
Origyptian Can't Answer The Questions 458 Barbelo 25-Feb-18 04:14
Re: Origyptian Can't Answer The Questions 461 Origyptian 25-Feb-18 04:17
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 501 Martin Stower 24-Feb-18 14:04
Re: So, You Agree With The Giza Theory 493 cladking 24-Feb-18 15:43
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 449 cladking 23-Feb-18 21:20
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 449 cladking 23-Feb-18 21:29
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 453 cladking 23-Feb-18 21:36
DEBUNKED 507 Corpuscles 23-Feb-18 21:51
Re: DEBUNKED 448 cladking 23-Feb-18 23:07
Re: DEBUNKED 483 Barbelo 23-Feb-18 23:20
Re: DEBUNKED 436 cladking 23-Feb-18 23:29
Re: DEBUNKED 503 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 02:25
Re: DEBUNKED 452 cladking 24-Feb-18 02:33
Re: DEBUNKED 498 Barbelo 24-Feb-18 05:42
Re: DEBUNKED 409 cladking 23-Feb-18 23:15
Re: DEBUNKED 458 Barbelo 23-Feb-18 23:31
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 481 Barbelo 23-Feb-18 22:25
Re: So, The GP Was Built In 2750 BC 483 Corpuscles 23-Feb-18 22:34
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 513 Corpuscles 23-Feb-18 04:18
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 461 cladking 23-Feb-18 14:18
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 476 cladking 23-Feb-18 15:20
Re: Cladkings - Geyser -"Funicular" and PT Interpretation - DEBUNKED 459 cladking 22-Feb-18 20:49
Re: The King as Pyramid 499 cladking 15-Feb-18 14:02
Re: The King as Pyramid 480 kborissov 15-Feb-18 15:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 542 cladking 15-Feb-18 17:45
Re: The King as Pyramid 546 eyeofhorus33 15-Feb-18 18:33
Re: The King as Pyramid 498 cladking 15-Feb-18 21:08
Re: The King as Pyramid 485 eyeofhorus33 25-Feb-18 18:56
Re: The King as Pyramid 453 cladking 25-Feb-18 21:50
Re: The King as Pyramid 689 cladking 25-Feb-18 05:00
I love this subthread! 547 cladking 01-Mar-18 19:17
Re: I love this subthread! 518 Origyptian 01-Mar-18 19:34
Re: I love this subthread! 463 Jon Ellison 02-Mar-18 00:01
Re: I love this subthread! 511 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 02:14
Re: I love this subthread! 528 cladking 02-Mar-18 20:50
Re: I love this subthread! 594 cladking 03-Mar-18 01:40
Re: I love this subthread! 80 seasmith 13-Nov-19 05:14
Re: I love this subthread! 88 cladking 14-Nov-19 01:25
Re: I love this subthread! 117 cladking 13-Nov-19 01:33
Re: I love this subthread! 206 cladking 19-Nov-19 02:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 493 cladking 25-Feb-18 05:12
Re: The King as Pyramid 475 Corpuscles 25-Feb-18 07:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 469 cladking 25-Feb-18 14:52
Geysers Are DEBUNKED 474 Barbelo 25-Feb-18 23:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 524 cladking 28-Feb-18 01:35
Re: The King as Pyramid 482 cladking 01-Mar-18 01:12
Re: The King as Pyramid 563 Manu 01-Mar-18 07:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 520 cladking 01-Mar-18 14:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 449 Manu 01-Mar-18 15:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 454 cladking 01-Mar-18 16:34
Re: The King as Pyramid 448 Manu 01-Mar-18 16:47
Re: The King as Pyramid 492 Origyptian 01-Mar-18 17:03
Re: The King as Pyramid 483 cladking 01-Mar-18 19:06
Re: The King as Pyramid 498 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 16:07
Re: The King as Pyramid 458 cladking 02-Mar-18 17:43
Re: The King as Pyramid 461 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 20:13
Re: The King as Pyramid 476 cladking 02-Mar-18 20:30
Re: The King as Pyramid 467 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 21:37
Re: The King as Pyramid 475 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 22:40
Re: The King as Pyramid 459 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 23:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 491 cladking 02-Mar-18 23:21
Re: The King as Pyramid 480 Origyptian 03-Mar-18 02:08
Re: The King as Pyramid 551 cladking 03-Mar-18 03:37
Re: The King as Pyramid 453 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 16:34
Re: The King as Pyramid 484 cladking 03-Mar-18 19:27
Re: The King as Pyramid 448 Steve Clayton 03-Mar-18 20:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 478 Origyptian 02-Mar-18 17:50
Re: The King as Pyramid 441 Steve Clayton 02-Mar-18 20:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 509 cladking 01-Mar-18 17:28
Re: The King as Pyramid 480 cladking 01-Mar-18 18:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 507 cladking 01-Mar-18 01:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 551 cladking 04-Mar-18 00:52
Re: The King as Pyramid 483 Audrey 04-Mar-18 23:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 533 cladking 05-Mar-18 04:23
Deceitful Nonsense 560 Barbelo 05-Mar-18 02:25
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 503 SandyJesse 05-Mar-18 03:22
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 474 SandyJesse 05-Mar-18 03:59
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 490 Barbelo 05-Mar-18 05:56
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 503 SandyJesse 05-Mar-18 06:20
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 490 Barbelo 05-Mar-18 07:06
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 540 SandyJesse 05-Mar-18 07:31
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 498 SandyJesse 05-Mar-18 07:52
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 485 Barbelo 05-Mar-18 10:37
Dances With Dead Kings. 582 cladking 05-Mar-18 14:57
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 519 Warwick 05-Mar-18 16:33
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 514 cladking 06-Mar-18 01:06
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 501 cladking 06-Mar-18 01:13
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 507 Manu 06-Mar-18 13:13
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 475 cladking 06-Mar-18 14:55
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 461 Manu 06-Mar-18 16:07
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 503 cladking 06-Mar-18 20:20
Re: Dances With Dead Gods. 480 cladking 06-Mar-18 20:53
Re: Dances With Dead Kings. 485 cladking 07-Mar-18 03:19
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 474 Corpuscles 06-Mar-18 04:57
Never Mind : It's Only Madness 550 Barbelo 06-Mar-18 05:51
Re: Never Mind : It's Only Madness 473 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 15:09
Please pay attention 528 Warwick 06-Mar-18 16:44
Re: Please pay attention 467 Origyptian 06-Mar-18 17:07
Re: Please pay attention 452 Warwick 06-Mar-18 19:37
Re: Never Mind : It's Only Madness 636 cladking 07-Mar-18 03:58
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 458 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 16:34
Re: Deceitful Nonsense 484 Steve Clayton 06-Mar-18 19:08
Re: The King as Pyramid 606 cladking 12-Apr-18 01:51
-deleted 185 cladking 08-May-19 02:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 544 cladking 11-May-18 01:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 449 cladking 30-May-18 02:46
Re: The King as Pyramid 577 cladking 30-May-18 03:13
Re: The King as Pyramid 464 Warwick 01-Jun-18 16:27
Re: The King as Pyramid 481 cladking 01-Jun-18 23:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 519 cladking 02-Jun-18 13:46
Cenotaph! 490 cladking 09-Jun-18 14:37
Re: Cenotaph! 437 Origyptian 10-Jun-18 16:04
Re: Cenotaph! 501 cladking 10-Jun-18 17:40
The Pyramid as Egyptians! 527 cladking 16-Oct-18 14:01
Re: The King as Pyramid 499 cladking 17-Jun-18 16:20
Re: The King as Pyramid 461 drew 18-Jun-18 01:37
Re: The King as Pyramid 452 cladking 18-Jun-18 13:44
Re: The King as Pyramid 432 drew 19-Jun-18 02:25
Re: The King as Pyramid 461 Thunderbird 20-Jun-18 21:00
Re: The King as Pyramid and the pedestal 437 drew 20-Jun-18 23:11
Re: The King as Pyramid and the pedestal 423 Thunderbird 21-Jun-18 01:38
Re: The King as Pyramid and the pedestal 493 drew 21-Jun-18 03:48
Re: The King as Pyramid 441 kborissov 18-Jun-18 01:56
Re: The King as Pyramid 420 cladking 18-Jun-18 14:18
Re: The King as Pyramid 529 cladking 18-Jun-18 14:23
Re: The King as Pyramid 518 cladking 03-Oct-18 01:07
Re: The King as Pyramid 375 cladking 15-Oct-18 00:09
Re: The King as Pyramid 243 cladking 08-Jul-19 00:50
Re: The King as Pyramid 408 cladking 16-Oct-18 01:26
Re: The King as Pyramid 520 cladking 08-Nov-18 21:13
Re: The King as Pyramid 383 cladking 02-Feb-19 01:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 306 engbren 02-Feb-19 12:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 336 cladking 02-Feb-19 15:46
Re: The King as Pyramid 316 cladking 02-Feb-19 20:52
Re: The King as Pyramid 359 cladking 03-Feb-19 21:27
We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 364 cladking 04-Feb-19 15:19
Re: We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 325 LonelyAngel 04-Feb-19 15:50
Re: We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 317 cladking 04-Feb-19 16:33
Re: We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 317 Warwick 04-Feb-19 18:39
Re: We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 281 cladking 04-Feb-19 19:01
Re: We All have Stinky Feet in the Long Run. 294 Warwick 04-Feb-19 19:35
Re: The King as Pyramid 318 cladking 03-Feb-19 02:28
Re: The King as Pyramid 272 cladking 06-Feb-19 16:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 247 cladking 08-Feb-19 02:33
Re: The King as Pyramid 301 drew 09-Feb-19 05:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 276 cladking 09-Feb-19 14:37
Re: The King as Pyramid 261 drew 10-Feb-19 00:39
Re: The King as Pyramid 259 cladking 10-Feb-19 02:29
Re: The King as Pyramid 335 drew 10-Feb-19 04:01
The Species with no Brain. 319 cladking 10-Feb-19 15:03
Re: The Species with no Brain. 274 Warwick 10-Feb-19 18:13
Re: The Species with no Brain. 274 cladking 10-Feb-19 18:59
Re: The Species with no Brain. 249 Warwick 10-Feb-19 19:52
Re: The Species with no Brain. 332 cladking 10-Feb-19 20:01
Re: The Species with no Brain. 358 drew 14-Feb-19 01:29
Re: The Species with no Brain. 295 cladking 14-Feb-19 14:25
Re: The Species with no Brain. 273 drew 14-Feb-19 23:38
Re: The Species with no Brain. 289 cladking 15-Feb-19 14:05
Re: The Species with no Brain. 267 drew 16-Feb-19 06:54
Erratum 277 eyeofhorus33 16-Feb-19 07:54
Re: Erratum 276 cladking 16-Feb-19 14:47
Re: Erratum 274 cladking 16-Feb-19 15:26
Re: The King as Pyramid 349 cladking 16-Feb-19 18:27
Re: Erratum 347 Warwick 17-Feb-19 19:07
Re: Erratum 293 cladking 17-Feb-19 19:39
Re: Erratum 260 Warwick 17-Feb-19 20:40
Re: Erratum 303 cladking 18-Feb-19 14:37
Re: Erratum 315 drew 16-Feb-19 23:52
Re: Erratum 272 eyeofhorus33 17-Feb-19 07:32
Re: Erratum 262 drew 19-Feb-19 21:29
Sound and fury 258 eyeofhorus33 21-Feb-19 15:21
Re: Sound and fury 274 cladking 21-Feb-19 15:37
Metaphysical Language 247 eyeofhorus33 21-Feb-19 19:47
Re: Metaphysical Language 249 cladking 22-Feb-19 02:27
Re: Metaphysical Language 272 Warwick 22-Feb-19 03:19
Unbelievable! 248 Warwick 21-Feb-19 20:02
Re: Unbelievable! 232 cladking 22-Feb-19 02:17
Re: Erratum 337 cladking 17-Feb-19 14:40
Re: The Species with no Brain. 339 cladking 16-Feb-19 15:06
Re: The King as Pyramid 302 cladking 20-Feb-19 01:29
Re: The King as Pyramid 278 drew 21-Feb-19 00:01
Cladders... have you seen this? 259 LonelyAngel 22-Feb-19 13:57
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 248 cladking 22-Feb-19 14:51
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 265 LonelyAngel 22-Feb-19 15:05
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 268 cladking 22-Feb-19 15:27
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 249 LonelyAngel 22-Feb-19 16:22
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 255 cladking 22-Feb-19 19:59
Re: Cladders... have you seen this? 272 LonelyAngel 22-Feb-19 20:33
Re: The King as Pyramid /James Allen 267 cladking 23-Feb-19 18:50
Re: The King as Pyramid /James Allen 263 eyeofhorus33 23-Feb-19 20:25
Re: The King as Pyramid /James Allen 325 cladking 23-Feb-19 21:13
Tombs are for Dead People. 278 cladking 28-Feb-19 03:03
The King is the Pyramid. 334 cladking 23-Mar-19 13:23
Re: The King as Pyramid /James Allen 412 cladking 01-Mar-19 23:03
Re: The King as Pyramid 265 cladking 22-Mar-19 20:21
Re: The King as Pyramid 238 cladking 31-Mar-19 03:36
Re: The King as Pyramid 246 cladking 03-Apr-19 01:53
Re: The King as Pyramid 284 cladking 13-Apr-19 18:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 343 cladking 19-Apr-19 13:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 204 cladking 08-May-19 03:40
In Summation. 226 cladking 08-May-19 13:26
Re: The King as Pyramid 187 cladking 03-Jun-19 03:03
Re: The King as Pyramid 163 Warwick 03-Jun-19 18:26
Re: The King as Pyramid 167 cladking 04-Jun-19 01:22
Re: The King as Pyramid 194 SandyJesse 04-Jun-19 03:17
Re: The King as Pyramid 212 SandyJesse 04-Jun-19 04:46
Re: The King as Pyramid 195 cladking 04-Jun-19 13:12
Re: The King as Pyramid 189 SandyJesse 09-Jun-19 05:08
Re: The King as Pyramid 174 cladking 14-Jun-19 13:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 174 SandyJesse 16-Jun-19 05:42
Re: The King as Pyramid 139 cladking 16-Jun-19 13:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 163 Warwick 04-Jun-19 16:28
Re: The King as Pyramid 171 cladking 04-Jun-19 20:49
Re: The King as Pyramid 171 Thanos5150 04-Jun-19 23:35
Re: The King as Pyramid 170 cladking 05-Jun-19 00:17
Re: The King as Pyramid 180 Thanos5150 05-Jun-19 01:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 172 Warwick 05-Jun-19 16:36
Re: The King as Pyramid 194 cladking 06-Jun-19 13:26
Re: The King as Pyramid 168 drew 15-Jun-19 02:36
Re: The King as Pyramid 155 cladking 16-Jun-19 00:37
Re: The King as Pyramid 160 drew 16-Jun-19 01:54
Re: The King as Pyramid 237 cladking 07-Jun-19 03:29
Re: The King as Pyramid 186 drew 15-Jun-19 02:48
Re: The King as Pyramid 176 cladking 16-Jun-19 00:50
Re: The King as Pyramid 179 drew 18-Jun-19 01:24
Re: The King as Pyramid 161 Warwick 18-Jun-19 17:51
Re: The King as Pyramid 161 cladking 19-Jun-19 00:08
A bit of sky 174 drew 20-Jun-19 01:41
Re: A bit of sky 146 cladking 21-Jun-19 13:38
Re: A bit of sky 169 drew 25-Jun-19 06:51
Re: A bit of sky 139 cladking 25-Jun-19 13:52
Re: A bit of sky 170 drew 26-Jun-19 00:47
Re: A bit of sky 154 cladking 25-Jun-19 14:05
Re: A bit of sky 141 Warwick 25-Jun-19 16:32
Re: The King as Pyramid 180 rulebook54 21-Jun-19 15:01
Re: The King as Pyramid 264 cladking 26-Jun-19 14:22
Re: The King as Pyramid 204 cladking 07-Jul-19 02:19
Re: The King as Pyramid 42 drew 09-Jan-20 23:43
Re: The King as Pyramid 23 cladking 11-Jan-20 01:57
Re: The King as Pyramid 189 cladking 27-Oct-19 01:06
The King's Kilt as Pyramid? 85 thinkitover 15-Nov-19 00:50
The King as a Star 47 cladking 09-Jan-20 22:32
Re: The King as a Star 28 drew 09-Jan-20 23:18
Re: The King as a Star 51 cladking 11-Jan-20 02:11
Re: The King as a Star 70 cladking 11-Jan-20 14:47


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