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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
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>
> > It's an interesting piece.
> >
> > It appears too thin to be a load-bearing "wheel";
> > only appears to be a couple mm thick.
>
> I'd say it's at least an inch thick, but no this
> does not appear to be a working vertical load
> bearing wheel. Perhaps it is a model of one, the
> AE were quite fond of making models of things. Its
> shape reminds me of the model vehicles found in
> Anatolia arguably dated to 5500BC:
> [trthaberstatic.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com]

I'd love to know what's considered "arguable" about the 5500BC dating of that piece other than the museum stating that it's at least that old.


> > The center
> > hole doesn't appear to go all the way though. The
> > lighting in that central depression is shaded to
> > imply it's a closed, rounded bottom.
>
> This does appear to be the case. It would be nice
> to see the other side of this object but I am
> striking out. This was part of a large burial site
> in Lahoun.
>
> > Perhaps a serving dish with a center well for a
> > sauce, caviar, toothpicks. Maybe a decorative lamp
> > (center hole for a candle or oil pool).
>
> I assume you are joking about the serving well,

Not really. In fact, when I mag the image, the outer edge of the plate seems like it could be bent up slightly to form a curved lip. Possibly it was a dish for holding bread, veggies, or fruit and the well was for royal jellies, etc. How can anyone be sure?


> but given its unnecessarily large flange compared
> to the collar, assuming the hole does not go all
> the way through and the other side is flat, it
> seems probable this was base to hold a shaft
> mounted object.

That doesn't hit the threshold of "probable" to me. Only "possibile", just as I see other possibilities. Possibly a serving disk, possibly an oil lamp or candlestick, possibly an inverted potters wheel...


> > It looks similar to the infamous very thin "schist bowl",
>
> The "flywheel":
> [i.imgur.com]
>
> > but flattened, without the folds or thicker
> > perimeter, thicker collar, and a rounded
> > depression in the center rather than the hole
> > going all the way through.
>
> So other than the collar in the middle and overall
> circular shape, actually not very "similar" but
> quite different.

It looks a lot thinner than 1" thick to me. We can see what appears to be pebbles of rubble in the shadow under the edge of that disk. And so its thinness also is reminescent of that schist object. Do you think it's alabaster?


> > There are what appears
> > to be fragments of thin bowls and pedestals in the
> > vicinity.
>
> The "vicinity" is the tomb. 14 of the tombs found
> dated to the 2nd Dynasty which I cannot find any
> more information on it other than the initial
> press release.

What human remains were found in these "tombs"? Why do you suppose the pottery is busted up but no one seems to have touched the wood?


> Regardless of what it was for it is a wheel shaped
> object nonetheless.

Agreed, other than its thinness and what appears to be a rounded dead end at the bottom of the central hole.

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 29-Oct-17 20:04 by Origyptian.

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Mastaba of Shepsekaf 1531 Thanos5150 25-Oct-17 04:25
Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 294 Racho 25-Oct-17 06:11
Re: Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 232 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 02:26
Why adapted/adopted 207 Racho 31-Oct-17 07:44
Re: Why adapted/adopted 337 Jon Ellison 31-Oct-17 09:25
Re: Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 245 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 03:57
Gables v Arch 191 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 03:47
Re: Gables v Arch 212 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 04:47
Re: Gables v Arch 202 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 05:12
Re: Gables v Arch 179 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 05:39
Re: Gables v Arch 248 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 06:49
An Interesting Curve 219 Jon Ellison 26-Oct-17 23:20
Re: Gables v Arch 177 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 00:34
Re: Gables v Arch 173 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 01:19
Re: Gables v Arch 178 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 01:36
Re: Gables v Arch 184 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 01:49
Re: Gables v Arch 169 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 02:05
Re: Gables v Arch 170 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 02:17
Re: Gables v Arch 180 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 02:27
Re: Gables v Arch 172 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 03:40
Re: Gables v Arch 179 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 05:22
Re: Gables v Arch 176 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 06:45
Gables v Arch vs Truss 214 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Oct-17 19:33
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 195 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 20:50
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 159 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 21:20
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 164 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 21:53
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 304 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Oct-17 22:47
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 171 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 07:34
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 351 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 07:53
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 190 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Oct-17 16:08
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 236 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 18:13
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 173 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Oct-17 16:07
Re: Gables v Arch 185 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 21:40
Re: Gables v Arch 204 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 22:40
Re: Gables v Arch 242 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 00:01
Re: Gables v Arch 241 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 10:03
Re: Gables v Arch 202 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 10:56
Re: Gables v Arch 334 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 13:30
Re: Gables v Arch 166 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 19:57
Re: Gables v Arch 168 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 22:45
Re: Gables v Arch 172 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 23:05
Re: Gables v Arch 183 R Avry Wilson 28-Oct-17 23:48
Re: Gables v Arch 221 Corpuscles 29-Oct-17 00:51
Re: Gables v Arch 213 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 05:19
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 228 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 02:31
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 200 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 22:18
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 171 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 22:50
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 178 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 23:46
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 281 DUNE 27-Oct-17 07:58
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 176 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 22:04
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 178 DUNE 27-Oct-17 23:08
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 370 Thanos5150 28-Oct-17 02:34
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 317 Corpuscles 28-Oct-17 04:43
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 183 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 20:06
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 254 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 02:03
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 217 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 05:16
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 322 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 05:39
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 254 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 14:09
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 213 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 16:39
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 239 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 16:56
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 195 Thanos5150 28-Oct-17 16:00
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 185 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 20:26


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