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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
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>
> > It's an interesting piece.
> >
> > It appears too thin to be a load-bearing "wheel";
> > only appears to be a couple mm thick.
>
> I'd say it's at least an inch thick, but no this
> does not appear to be a working vertical load
> bearing wheel. Perhaps it is a model of one, the
> AE were quite fond of making models of things. Its
> shape reminds me of the model vehicles found in
> Anatolia arguably dated to 5500BC:
> [trthaberstatic.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com]

I'd love to know what's considered "arguable" about the 5500BC dating of that piece other than the museum stating that it's at least that old.


> > The center
> > hole doesn't appear to go all the way though. The
> > lighting in that central depression is shaded to
> > imply it's a closed, rounded bottom.
>
> This does appear to be the case. It would be nice
> to see the other side of this object but I am
> striking out. This was part of a large burial site
> in Lahoun.
>
> > Perhaps a serving dish with a center well for a
> > sauce, caviar, toothpicks. Maybe a decorative lamp
> > (center hole for a candle or oil pool).
>
> I assume you are joking about the serving well,

Not really. In fact, when I mag the image, the outer edge of the plate seems like it could be bent up slightly to form a curved lip. Possibly it was a dish for holding bread, veggies, or fruit and the well was for royal jellies, etc. How can anyone be sure?


> but given its unnecessarily large flange compared
> to the collar, assuming the hole does not go all
> the way through and the other side is flat, it
> seems probable this was base to hold a shaft
> mounted object.

That doesn't hit the threshold of "probable" to me. Only "possibile", just as I see other possibilities. Possibly a serving disk, possibly an oil lamp or candlestick, possibly an inverted potters wheel...


> > It looks similar to the infamous very thin "schist bowl",
>
> The "flywheel":
> [i.imgur.com]
>
> > but flattened, without the folds or thicker
> > perimeter, thicker collar, and a rounded
> > depression in the center rather than the hole
> > going all the way through.
>
> So other than the collar in the middle and overall
> circular shape, actually not very "similar" but
> quite different.

It looks a lot thinner than 1" thick to me. We can see what appears to be pebbles of rubble in the shadow under the edge of that disk. And so its thinness also is reminescent of that schist object. Do you think it's alabaster?


> > There are what appears
> > to be fragments of thin bowls and pedestals in the
> > vicinity.
>
> The "vicinity" is the tomb. 14 of the tombs found
> dated to the 2nd Dynasty which I cannot find any
> more information on it other than the initial
> press release.

What human remains were found in these "tombs"? Why do you suppose the pottery is busted up but no one seems to have touched the wood?


> Regardless of what it was for it is a wheel shaped
> object nonetheless.

Agreed, other than its thinness and what appears to be a rounded dead end at the bottom of the central hole.

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 29-Oct-17 20:04 by Origyptian.

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Mastaba of Shepsekaf 1356 Thanos5150 25-Oct-17 04:25
Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 261 Racho 25-Oct-17 06:11
Re: Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 192 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 02:26
Why adapted/adopted 178 Racho 31-Oct-17 07:44
Re: Why adapted/adopted 295 Jon Ellison 31-Oct-17 09:25
Re: Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 215 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 03:57
Gables v Arch 153 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 03:47
Re: Gables v Arch 175 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 04:47
Re: Gables v Arch 171 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 05:12
Re: Gables v Arch 155 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 05:39
Re: Gables v Arch 219 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 06:49
An Interesting Curve 184 Jon Ellison 26-Oct-17 23:20
Re: Gables v Arch 143 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 00:34
Re: Gables v Arch 150 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 01:19
Re: Gables v Arch 153 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 01:36
Re: Gables v Arch 159 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 01:49
Re: Gables v Arch 137 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 02:05
Re: Gables v Arch 145 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 02:17
Re: Gables v Arch 147 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 02:27
Re: Gables v Arch 138 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 03:40
Re: Gables v Arch 149 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 05:22
Re: Gables v Arch 148 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 06:45
Gables v Arch vs Truss 184 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Oct-17 19:33
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 163 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 20:50
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 131 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 21:20
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 136 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 21:53
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 243 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Oct-17 22:47
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 146 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 07:34
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 304 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 07:53
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 149 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Oct-17 16:08
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 211 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 18:13
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 138 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Oct-17 16:07
Re: Gables v Arch 153 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 21:40
Re: Gables v Arch 161 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 22:40
Re: Gables v Arch 217 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 00:01
Re: Gables v Arch 201 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 10:03
Re: Gables v Arch 173 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 10:56
Re: Gables v Arch 304 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 13:30
Re: Gables v Arch 138 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 19:57
Re: Gables v Arch 130 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 22:45
Re: Gables v Arch 146 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 23:05
Re: Gables v Arch 137 R Avry Wilson 28-Oct-17 23:48
Re: Gables v Arch 192 Corpuscles 29-Oct-17 00:51
Re: Gables v Arch 185 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 05:19
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 173 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 02:31
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 161 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 22:18
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 145 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 22:50
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 146 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 23:46
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 252 DUNE 27-Oct-17 07:58
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 150 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 22:04
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 146 DUNE 27-Oct-17 23:08
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 309 Thanos5150 28-Oct-17 02:34
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 278 Corpuscles 28-Oct-17 04:43
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 153 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 20:06
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 209 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 02:03
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 185 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 05:16
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 280 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 05:39
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 227 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 14:09
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 187 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 16:39
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 211 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 16:56
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 164 Thanos5150 28-Oct-17 16:00
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 148 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 20:26


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