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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
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>
> > It's an interesting piece.
> >
> > It appears too thin to be a load-bearing "wheel";
> > only appears to be a couple mm thick.
>
> I'd say it's at least an inch thick, but no this
> does not appear to be a working vertical load
> bearing wheel. Perhaps it is a model of one, the
> AE were quite fond of making models of things. Its
> shape reminds me of the model vehicles found in
> Anatolia arguably dated to 5500BC:
> [trthaberstatic.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com]

I'd love to know what's considered "arguable" about the 5500BC dating of that piece other than the museum stating that it's at least that old.


> > The center
> > hole doesn't appear to go all the way though. The
> > lighting in that central depression is shaded to
> > imply it's a closed, rounded bottom.
>
> This does appear to be the case. It would be nice
> to see the other side of this object but I am
> striking out. This was part of a large burial site
> in Lahoun.
>
> > Perhaps a serving dish with a center well for a
> > sauce, caviar, toothpicks. Maybe a decorative lamp
> > (center hole for a candle or oil pool).
>
> I assume you are joking about the serving well,

Not really. In fact, when I mag the image, the outer edge of the plate seems like it could be bent up slightly to form a curved lip. Possibly it was a dish for holding bread, veggies, or fruit and the well was for royal jellies, etc. How can anyone be sure?


> but given its unnecessarily large flange compared
> to the collar, assuming the hole does not go all
> the way through and the other side is flat, it
> seems probable this was base to hold a shaft
> mounted object.

That doesn't hit the threshold of "probable" to me. Only "possibile", just as I see other possibilities. Possibly a serving disk, possibly an oil lamp or candlestick, possibly an inverted potters wheel...


> > It looks similar to the infamous very thin "schist bowl",
>
> The "flywheel":
> [i.imgur.com]
>
> > but flattened, without the folds or thicker
> > perimeter, thicker collar, and a rounded
> > depression in the center rather than the hole
> > going all the way through.
>
> So other than the collar in the middle and overall
> circular shape, actually not very "similar" but
> quite different.

It looks a lot thinner than 1" thick to me. We can see what appears to be pebbles of rubble in the shadow under the edge of that disk. And so its thinness also is reminescent of that schist object. Do you think it's alabaster?


> > There are what appears
> > to be fragments of thin bowls and pedestals in the
> > vicinity.
>
> The "vicinity" is the tomb. 14 of the tombs found
> dated to the 2nd Dynasty which I cannot find any
> more information on it other than the initial
> press release.

What human remains were found in these "tombs"? Why do you suppose the pottery is busted up but no one seems to have touched the wood?


> Regardless of what it was for it is a wheel shaped
> object nonetheless.

Agreed, other than its thinness and what appears to be a rounded dead end at the bottom of the central hole.

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 29-Oct-17 20:04 by Origyptian.

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Mastaba of Shepsekaf 1421 Thanos5150 25-Oct-17 04:25
Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 271 Racho 25-Oct-17 06:11
Re: Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 208 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 02:26
Why adapted/adopted 191 Racho 31-Oct-17 07:44
Re: Why adapted/adopted 311 Jon Ellison 31-Oct-17 09:25
Re: Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 225 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 03:57
Gables v Arch 166 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 03:47
Re: Gables v Arch 194 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 04:47
Re: Gables v Arch 181 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 05:12
Re: Gables v Arch 164 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 05:39
Re: Gables v Arch 230 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 06:49
An Interesting Curve 194 Jon Ellison 26-Oct-17 23:20
Re: Gables v Arch 158 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 00:34
Re: Gables v Arch 159 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 01:19
Re: Gables v Arch 162 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 01:36
Re: Gables v Arch 167 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 01:49
Re: Gables v Arch 151 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 02:05
Re: Gables v Arch 152 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 02:17
Re: Gables v Arch 161 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 02:27
Re: Gables v Arch 149 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 03:40
Re: Gables v Arch 161 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 05:22
Re: Gables v Arch 158 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 06:45
Gables v Arch vs Truss 195 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Oct-17 19:33
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 175 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 20:50
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 144 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 21:20
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 144 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 21:53
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 268 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Oct-17 22:47
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 157 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 07:34
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 323 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 07:53
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 166 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Oct-17 16:08
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 219 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 18:13
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 153 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Oct-17 16:07
Re: Gables v Arch 168 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 21:40
Re: Gables v Arch 185 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 22:40
Re: Gables v Arch 227 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 00:01
Re: Gables v Arch 213 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 10:03
Re: Gables v Arch 184 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 10:56
Re: Gables v Arch 316 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 13:30
Re: Gables v Arch 148 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 19:57
Re: Gables v Arch 144 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 22:45
Re: Gables v Arch 157 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 23:05
Re: Gables v Arch 161 R Avry Wilson 28-Oct-17 23:48
Re: Gables v Arch 207 Corpuscles 29-Oct-17 00:51
Re: Gables v Arch 197 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 05:19
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 192 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 02:31
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 173 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 22:18
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 155 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 22:50
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 157 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 23:46
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 263 DUNE 27-Oct-17 07:58
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 159 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 22:04
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 159 DUNE 27-Oct-17 23:08
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 337 Thanos5150 28-Oct-17 02:34
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 287 Corpuscles 28-Oct-17 04:43
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 161 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 20:06
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 225 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 02:03
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 201 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 05:16
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 294 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 05:39
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 240 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 14:09
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 197 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 16:39
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 220 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 16:56
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 175 Thanos5150 28-Oct-17 16:00
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 160 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 20:26


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