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Dr. Troglodyte Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > Dr. Troglodyte Wrote:
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[Image Restored]

> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Jon Ellison; regarding the above image
> > you
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > ”Not really as it isn't an arch.
> > > It's a triangulated, opposed truss.
> > > It functions dynamically in exactly the same
> > way
> > > as the trusses' in the other
> pyramids...”

> > >
> > > These comments are incorrect.
> > >
> > > The roof structure for this space is an
> > > arch
. It is composed of segments of
> > opposing
> > > voussoirs. It is not a
> > > “triangulated, opposed truss”; in that it
> > does
> > > satisfy the formulaic requirements for a
> truss:
> > > m = 2n – 3,
>
> > > where m is
> the
> > > total number of members and
> > > n is the
> total
> > > number of nodes. It does not function
> > > “dynamically” as a truss, for the same
> > > reason.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

>

> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dr. Troglodyte
> >
>
> > How exactly does a Voussoir function as an
> active
> > component within a true arch????
> > How does a true arch function as opposed to a
> > gabled arch???
> > Are they the same?
> > Are they different??
>
>
> The ‘voussoir’ is a wedge shaped
> element utilized in load [force/thrust]
> transference. In the image below, lines of
> “thrust” are dashed:
>
>
>

> [url=http://www.bristol.ac.uk/civilengineering/bri
> dges/Pages/HowtoreadabridgeArches.html]Source[/url
> ]
>
>
> > What is the difference between a True Arch and
> a
> > False Arch??
>
>
> The [i]‘voussoired’[/i] arch is a form of
> “true” arch; the ‘corbeled’ arch is
> [url=https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fa
> lse%20arch]defined[/url] as a “false” arch.
>
>
> > What would happen if we were to remove the
> lower
> > cross member from a triangulated truss??
> > If the lower cross member of a truss were
> removed
> > could it be compensated for in any other way
> > therefore mathematically maintaining the
> > structural integrity of the truss??
> >
>
>
> You would no longer have a [i]”truss”[/i].
> Compensation of the horizontal chord member of a
> truss, that does not act in tension, negates its
> designation as a [i]”truss”[/i].
>
>
> > I look forward to your answers.
> >
> > I have corrected and completed your drawing.
> >
> > [img]https://i.imgur.com/dhR5pAz.jpg[/img]
>
>
>
> You have “corrected” nothing. You have
> illustrated the compression of the diagonal
> members and the tension of the horizontal chord
> member. You have incorrectly illustrated the
> “reaction” force from the bearing nodes, as
> indicated in this modern wood truss image:

Yes I have corrected your incorrect drawing..
What exactly is your "reaction force" reacting to???

Are you misreading your drawing??

Or is it a drawing of a closed roof truss as opposed to what were talking about, which is an 'open truss' of the opposing variety? Sometimes referred to on here as "gables, rafters or chevrons".



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> [center][img]http://www.rltruss.com/images/loads.j
> pg[/img][/center]
> [url=http://www.rltruss.com/trusseducation.html]So
> urce[/url]
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> Dr. Troglodyte



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 28-Oct-17 08:09 by Jon Ellison.

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Mastaba of Shepsekaf 1352 Thanos5150 25-Oct-17 04:25
Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 260 Racho 25-Oct-17 06:11
Re: Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 192 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 02:26
Why adapted/adopted 178 Racho 31-Oct-17 07:44
Re: Why adapted/adopted 294 Jon Ellison 31-Oct-17 09:25
Re: Quite the Mastaba...looks like walls can talk ;) 214 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 03:57
Gables v Arch 152 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 03:47
Re: Gables v Arch 174 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 04:47
Re: Gables v Arch 169 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 05:12
Re: Gables v Arch 155 Thanos5150 26-Oct-17 05:39
Re: Gables v Arch 219 Barbelo 26-Oct-17 06:49
An Interesting Curve 182 Jon Ellison 26-Oct-17 23:20
Re: Gables v Arch 141 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 00:34
Re: Gables v Arch 149 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 01:19
Re: Gables v Arch 152 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 01:36
Re: Gables v Arch 158 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 01:49
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Re: Gables v Arch 145 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 02:17
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Re: Gables v Arch 138 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 03:40
Re: Gables v Arch 149 Barbelo 27-Oct-17 05:22
Re: Gables v Arch 148 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 06:45
Gables v Arch vs Truss 184 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Oct-17 19:33
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 163 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 20:50
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 130 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 21:20
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 136 Jon Ellison 27-Oct-17 21:53
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 241 Dr. Troglodyte 27-Oct-17 22:47
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 145 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 07:34
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 302 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 07:53
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 149 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Oct-17 16:08
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 210 Jon Ellison 28-Oct-17 18:13
Re: Gables v Arch vs Truss 138 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Oct-17 16:07
Re: Gables v Arch 151 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 21:40
Re: Gables v Arch 160 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 22:40
Re: Gables v Arch 217 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 00:01
Re: Gables v Arch 201 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 10:03
Re: Gables v Arch 172 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 10:56
Re: Gables v Arch 304 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 13:30
Re: Gables v Arch 137 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 19:57
Re: Gables v Arch 130 Origyptian 28-Oct-17 22:45
Re: Gables v Arch 146 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 23:05
Re: Gables v Arch 136 R Avry Wilson 28-Oct-17 23:48
Re: Gables v Arch 191 Corpuscles 29-Oct-17 00:51
Re: Gables v Arch 184 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 05:19
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 171 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 02:31
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 161 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 22:18
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 145 Origyptian 27-Oct-17 22:50
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 146 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 23:46
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 250 DUNE 27-Oct-17 07:58
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 148 Thanos5150 27-Oct-17 22:04
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 145 DUNE 27-Oct-17 23:08
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 308 Thanos5150 28-Oct-17 02:34
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 276 Corpuscles 28-Oct-17 04:43
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 153 Barbelo 28-Oct-17 20:06
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 209 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 02:03
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 185 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 05:16
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 277 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 05:39
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 227 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 14:09
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 187 Thanos5150 29-Oct-17 16:39
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 211 Origyptian 29-Oct-17 16:56
Re: Mastaba of Shepsekaf 163 Thanos5150 28-Oct-17 16:00
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