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Mike D Wrote:
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> ... It is necessary to be intellectually honest on this point.

Honestly, Mike, when I do a google search for "malta cart ruts", I see few differences in texture between the tracks vs. outside the tracks. And when we get to other geographic locations such as Turkey, I see far less evidence of any activity between the tracks. So I'm not sure what you mean by "intellectually honest on this point". All I'm doing is looking at the images and reporting what I see.

For those few images that do show clear depressions between the ruts, how can you be so sure that those ruts depressions weren't created by humans walking between the ruts as faux road markers that were already ancient?

In my intellectually honest assessment, the evidence is far too inconsistent to automatically lump all ruts into indicating wheeled carts that were drawn by animals when only a minority of ruts show clear evidence of such depressions between them and it's not possible to age the ruts or those broader depressions.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting to hear your explanation of how thousands of cart runs could possibly follow exactly the same path from the very first pass along a given stretch of bedrock in order to create such sharply defined ruts. How can an animal be trained to follow such a precise path each and every time? For that matter, WHY would an animal be trained to do that? Respectfully, I would assume that your engineering background allows you to recognize the problematic nature of such deep ruts in stone with a consistent width that would cause wheels to sieze on a curved path. I cannot see how anyone that's "intellectually honest" can fathom a pragmatic scenario where such a thing would happen even once, let alone the many dozens (hundreds?) of ruts we see not only in Malta but other places on the planet.

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-17 15:39 by Origyptian.

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Clapham Junction Malta 1873 Rstevens1701 16-Oct-17 15:26
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 511 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 18:45
this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 385 Racho 16-Oct-17 22:45
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 464 Tsurugi 17-Oct-17 04:55
Not carts. 382 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 07:14
Re: Not carts. 309 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:00
Re: Not carts. 284 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 20:17
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 309 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 07:28
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 298 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 08:29
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 269 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:08
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 281 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 16:56
ships on land 282 molder 17-Oct-17 22:43
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 238 molder 18-Oct-17 12:22
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 292 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 13:00
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 254 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 17:23
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 258 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 18:26
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 274 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 19:01
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 223 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:44
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 213 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:36
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 336 molder 08-Nov-17 10:34
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 196 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 05:55
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 245 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 01:53
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 185 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:47
Black Tracks 275 Barbelo 19-Oct-17 01:59
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 328 Mike D 25-Nov-17 13:44
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The Diolkos 194 molder 26-Nov-17 21:36
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 245 Mike D 26-Nov-17 13:15
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 206 Origyptian 29-Nov-17 03:16
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 343 Origyptian 30-Nov-17 15:32
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 186 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 15:49
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 191 Mike D 28-Nov-17 18:28
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 192 Origyptian 27-Nov-17 15:48
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 183 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 05:35
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