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Mike D Wrote:
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> ... It is necessary to be intellectually honest on this point.

Honestly, Mike, when I do a google search for "malta cart ruts", I see few differences in texture between the tracks vs. outside the tracks. And when we get to other geographic locations such as Turkey, I see far less evidence of any activity between the tracks. So I'm not sure what you mean by "intellectually honest on this point". All I'm doing is looking at the images and reporting what I see.

For those few images that do show clear depressions between the ruts, how can you be so sure that those ruts depressions weren't created by humans walking between the ruts as faux road markers that were already ancient?

In my intellectually honest assessment, the evidence is far too inconsistent to automatically lump all ruts into indicating wheeled carts that were drawn by animals when only a minority of ruts show clear evidence of such depressions between them and it's not possible to age the ruts or those broader depressions.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting to hear your explanation of how thousands of cart runs could possibly follow exactly the same path from the very first pass along a given stretch of bedrock in order to create such sharply defined ruts. How can an animal be trained to follow such a precise path each and every time? For that matter, WHY would an animal be trained to do that? Respectfully, I would assume that your engineering background allows you to recognize the problematic nature of such deep ruts in stone with a consistent width that would cause wheels to sieze on a curved path. I cannot see how anyone that's "intellectually honest" can fathom a pragmatic scenario where such a thing would happen even once, let alone the many dozens (hundreds?) of ruts we see not only in Malta but other places on the planet.

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-17 15:39 by Origyptian.

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Clapham Junction Malta 1724 Rstevens1701 16-Oct-17 15:26
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 420 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 18:45
this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 331 Racho 16-Oct-17 22:45
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 398 Tsurugi 17-Oct-17 04:55
Not carts. 333 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 07:14
Re: Not carts. 243 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:00
Re: Not carts. 235 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 20:17
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 244 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 07:28
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 239 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 08:29
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 227 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:08
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 229 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 16:56
ships on land 230 molder 17-Oct-17 22:43
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 193 molder 18-Oct-17 12:22
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 231 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 13:00
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 206 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 17:23
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 215 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 18:26
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 215 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 19:01
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 173 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:44
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 163 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:36
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 295 molder 08-Nov-17 10:34
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 160 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 05:55
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 201 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 01:53
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 136 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:47
Black Tracks 216 Barbelo 19-Oct-17 01:59
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Re: Black Tracks 285 Barbelo 21-Oct-17 00:20
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 154 Anonymous User 07-Nov-17 22:07
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 246 Mike D 25-Nov-17 13:44
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 155 Mike D 26-Nov-17 12:46
The Diolkos 154 molder 26-Nov-17 21:36
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 169 Mike D 26-Nov-17 13:15
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 122 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:05
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 156 Origyptian 29-Nov-17 03:16
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 172 Origyptian 29-Nov-17 15:06
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 137 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 15:49
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 140 Mike D 28-Nov-17 18:28
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 141 Origyptian 27-Nov-17 15:48
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 135 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 05:35
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 127 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 15:34
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