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Mike D Wrote:
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Jon Ellison
> Do I understand you correctly?
> Are you saying that the ruts were pre carved and
> constructed. A designed and constructed
> rut-way?

>
> At Clapham Junction I think that it has been the
> case. But in my opinion, no full carving was
> necessary, only shallow traces to open a guiding
> path, necessary a compromise to carry heavy loads
> along a track making an angle in relation to
> maximum slope. This in order to reduce braking
> force, so generating a moderate side strength of
> deflection of trajectory. Rails were here to
> control the lateral deviation. Engineer's
> compromise.
>
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The same
> What caused the vehicles to follow exactly the
> same route time and time again?

>
> Quarry work organization (In Clapham Junction)
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Jon..
> How were they navigated prior to the
> development of the ruts without defined roadways
> or choke points??

>
> Before opening of the quarry, they didn't.
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Jon said
> Why do we see central depressions in only a
> very few places, yet rut tracks in 100% of
> places?

>
> In Clapham Junction, quite all the terrain is so
> eroded, disturbed, full of totally random bumps,
> holes and cracks, looking so old, that you cannot
> honestly say what was inside the vast majority of
> tracks pairs, and so the point is unconclusive to
> me.
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Jon
> Even if the loaded journey was downhill the
> empty vehicle would need to make an uphill return
> journey.

>
> The uphill return journey was performed as you
> said with an empty vehicle, and along a slope,
> thus creating only a moderate pressure on cart
> ruts, and needing limited hauling power.

Hi Mike..
Thanks.

So you see an industrial complex (quarry) served by a designed and cut industrial 'Rutway'?
Similar to an industrial railway serving an industrial ship building yard.
No long distance routes as such, just localised transport around the complex?

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Clapham Junction Malta 2035 Rstevens1701 16-Oct-17 15:26
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 572 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 18:45
this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 428 Racho 16-Oct-17 22:45
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 601 Tsurugi 17-Oct-17 04:55
Not carts. 454 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 07:14
Re: Not carts. 383 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:00
Re: Not carts. 354 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 20:17
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 358 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 07:28
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 355 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 08:29
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 311 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:08
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 336 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 16:56
ships on land 339 molder 17-Oct-17 22:43
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 299 molder 18-Oct-17 12:22
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 343 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 13:00
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 319 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 17:23
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 332 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 18:26
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 327 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 19:01
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 275 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:44
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 264 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:36
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 385 molder 08-Nov-17 10:34
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 239 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 05:55
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 288 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 01:53
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 252 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:47
Black Tracks 345 Barbelo 19-Oct-17 01:59
Re: Black Tracks 345 randompHactor 19-Oct-17 02:16
Re: Black Tracks 444 Barbelo 21-Oct-17 00:20
Re: Black Tracks 238 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:51
Turkey Tracks 342 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 22:51
Re: Turkey Tracks 365 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 23:47
Re: Turkey Tracks 293 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 02:03
Re: Turkey Tracks 334 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 02:07
Re: Turkey Tracks 348 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 03:00
Re: Turkey Tracks 314 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 04:22
Re: Turkey Tracks 390 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:58
Re: Turkey Tracks 2 385 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 23:54
Re: Turkey Tracks 2 293 Jon Ellison 19-Oct-17 01:03
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Re: Turkey Tracks 280 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 19:15
Re: Turkey Tracks 245 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 19:20
Re: Turkey Tracks 254 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 20:03
Re: Turkey Tracks 278 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 20:12
Re: Turkey Tracks 342 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 20:34
Re: Turkey Tracks 279 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 21:21
Re: Turkey Tracks 274 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 22:44
Re: Turkey Tracks 246 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 22:51
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Re: Turkey Tracks 270 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 23:52
Re: Turkey Tracks 351 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:38
Re: Turkey Tracks 310 Jon Ellison 08-Nov-17 09:58
Re: Turkey Tracks 246 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 02:40
Re: Turkey Tracks 450 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 08:08
Re: Turkey Tracks 337 Tsurugi 25-Nov-17 08:10
Re: Turkey Tracks 280 Mike D 26-Nov-17 16:57
Re: Turkey Tracks 234 Jon Ellison 26-Nov-17 18:08
Re: Turkey Tracks 318 Mike D 27-Nov-17 09:47
Re: Turkey Tracks 290 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:16
Re: Turkey Tracks 260 Barbelo 07-Nov-17 21:26
Re: Turkey Tracks 346 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:46
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 256 Anonymous User 07-Nov-17 22:07
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 414 Mike D 25-Nov-17 13:44
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 271 molder 25-Nov-17 20:51
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 273 Mike D 26-Nov-17 12:46
The Diolkos 255 molder 26-Nov-17 21:36
Re: The Diolkos 243 Mike D 27-Nov-17 10:03
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 311 Mike D 26-Nov-17 13:15
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 250 Tsurugi 27-Nov-17 09:40
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 269 Mike D 27-Nov-17 10:40
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 265 Jon Ellison 27-Nov-17 18:32
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 258 Mike D 28-Nov-17 10:05
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 213 Origyptian 30-Nov-17 13:56
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 279 Mike D 28-Nov-17 10:46
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 238 Origyptian 27-Nov-17 15:48
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