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I cannot claim to be a cart ruts specialist, even if I have been in Malta.
I was there as a tourist who, being really interested in history, was not focused only on cart ruts mystery. During my stay, I saw two cart ruts sites only, Clapham Junction in Malta, and Ta Cenc in Gozo. I did not see other cart ruts sites.
Sadly, I discovered dedicated guides only during the stay, but in Malta, there are so many places to visit, ranging from neolithic to wwII, and a tourist time is limited.

Not too far, tourists can visit a decomissioned quarry and its very interesting technical and historical museum, "The Limestone Heritage". Useful visit.

In my opinion, from what I saw, Clapham junction was a neolithic quarry, showing a rational organization. The depth of cutting remained very limited everywhere on the site. It seems that exploitation was extensive rather than intensive, in the sense that only one layer of slabs was cut, no more.

The problem on site is that when you begin to distinguish the ruts pattern, you cannot see the parallel cutting benches pattern, which form an angle with respect to the parallel ruts network (and conversely).
The site is made of several gentle slopes converging downhill, and this pattern organization seem to be more or less repeated on each slope, creating several cutting areas.

All reflexions should take this possibility into account. But yes, for many persons, the cutting benches pattern that I think to have seen could be natural outcrops. There is a strong reluctance to admit that there are in the world many man-made structures which could be very, very old.

The rock quality must have been good, as there is today a modern quarry just beside the site, and on the top of two slopes are some tracks that seem to go towards (or come from) the modern quarry location.
The problem is that the areas are now not complete, access is often limited, there are many discontinuities and tracks interruptions by properties, walls, fields, where the quarry pattern has been destroyed to be replaced by agriculture (rock removal, earth addition), this doesn't help.

In Ta Cenc, the site is different.
Much less tracks, and the sensation you are walking on a rocky area which was artificially leveled. It is only partially covered by some earth and plants, and bearing clear tooling traces.
Also the feeling that this area was at a time much more extended. In addition, ruts and cutting-tooling traces are sometimes so close to the cliffs rim (some 130 m in height) that is seems a kind of non-sense.
A conclusion could be that these traces are much older than cliffs, and that initial coast line was much lower and much further.

Michel Demaria (retired engineer, France)



Edited 9 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-17 11:20 by Mike D.

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Clapham Junction Malta 1843 Rstevens1701 16-Oct-17 15:26
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 487 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 18:45
this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 371 Racho 16-Oct-17 22:45
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 446 Tsurugi 17-Oct-17 04:55
Not carts. 373 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 07:14
Re: Not carts. 292 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:00
Re: Not carts. 274 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 20:17
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 295 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 07:28
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 284 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 08:29
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 258 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:08
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 270 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 16:56
ships on land 265 molder 17-Oct-17 22:43
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 224 molder 18-Oct-17 12:22
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 273 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 13:00
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 243 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 17:23
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 249 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 18:26
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 265 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 19:01
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 209 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:44
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 196 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:36
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 327 molder 08-Nov-17 10:34
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 185 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 05:55
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 233 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 01:53
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 170 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:47
Black Tracks 258 Barbelo 19-Oct-17 01:59
Re: Black Tracks 276 randompHactor 19-Oct-17 02:16
Re: Black Tracks 328 Barbelo 21-Oct-17 00:20
Re: Black Tracks 188 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:51
Turkey Tracks 284 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 22:51
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Re: Turkey Tracks 191 Barbelo 07-Nov-17 21:26
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 198 Anonymous User 07-Nov-17 22:07
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 310 Mike D 25-Nov-17 13:44
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 216 molder 25-Nov-17 20:51
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 188 Mike D 26-Nov-17 12:46
The Diolkos 185 molder 26-Nov-17 21:36
Re: The Diolkos 189 Mike D 27-Nov-17 10:03
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 227 Mike D 26-Nov-17 13:15
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 198 Tsurugi 27-Nov-17 09:40
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 177 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 15:49
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