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I cannot claim to be a cart ruts specialist, even if I have been in Malta.
I was there as a tourist who, being really interested in history, was not focused only on cart ruts mystery. During my stay, I saw two cart ruts sites only, Clapham Junction in Malta, and Ta Cenc in Gozo. I did not see other cart ruts sites.
Sadly, I discovered dedicated guides only during the stay, but in Malta, there are so many places to visit, ranging from neolithic to wwII, and a tourist time is limited.

Not too far, tourists can visit a decomissioned quarry and its very interesting technical and historical museum, "The Limestone Heritage". Useful visit.

In my opinion, from what I saw, Clapham junction was a neolithic quarry, showing a rational organization. The depth of cutting remained very limited everywhere on the site. It seems that exploitation was extensive rather than intensive, in the sense that only one layer of slabs was cut, no more.

The problem on site is that when you begin to distinguish the ruts pattern, you cannot see the parallel cutting benches pattern, which form an angle with respect to the parallel ruts network (and conversely).
The site is made of several gentle slopes converging downhill, and this pattern organization seem to be more or less repeated on each slope, creating several cutting areas.

All reflexions should take this possibility into account. But yes, for many persons, the cutting benches pattern that I think to have seen could be natural outcrops. There is a strong reluctance to admit that there are in the world many man-made structures which could be very, very old.

The rock quality must have been good, as there is today a modern quarry just beside the site, and on the top of two slopes are some tracks that seem to go towards (or come from) the modern quarry location.
The problem is that the areas are now not complete, access is often limited, there are many discontinuities and tracks interruptions by properties, walls, fields, where the quarry pattern has been destroyed to be replaced by agriculture (rock removal, earth addition), this doesn't help.

In Ta Cenc, the site is different.
Much less tracks, and the sensation you are walking on a rocky area which was artificially leveled. It is only partially covered by some earth and plants, and bearing clear tooling traces.
Also the feeling that this area was at a time much more extended. In addition, ruts and cutting-tooling traces are sometimes so close to the cliffs rim (some 130 m in height) that is seems a kind of non-sense.
A conclusion could be that these traces are much older than cliffs, and that initial coast line was much lower and much further.

Michel Demaria (retired engineer, France)



Edited 9 time(s). Last edit at 28-Nov-17 11:20 by Mike D.

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Clapham Junction Malta 1710 Rstevens1701 16-Oct-17 15:26
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 412 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 18:45
this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 325 Racho 16-Oct-17 22:45
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 388 Tsurugi 17-Oct-17 04:55
Not carts. 329 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 07:14
Re: Not carts. 239 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:00
Re: Not carts. 231 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 20:17
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 239 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 07:28
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 235 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 08:29
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 226 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:08
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 225 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 16:56
ships on land 223 molder 17-Oct-17 22:43
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 190 molder 18-Oct-17 12:22
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 222 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 13:00
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 203 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 17:23
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 213 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 18:26
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 211 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 19:01
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 167 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:44
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 159 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:36
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 293 molder 08-Nov-17 10:34
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 155 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 05:55
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 197 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 01:53
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 133 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:47
Black Tracks 211 Barbelo 19-Oct-17 01:59
Re: Black Tracks 219 randompHactor 19-Oct-17 02:16
Re: Black Tracks 276 Barbelo 21-Oct-17 00:20
Re: Black Tracks 155 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:51
Turkey Tracks 235 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 22:51
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Re: Turkey Tracks 138 Barbelo 07-Nov-17 21:26
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 151 Anonymous User 07-Nov-17 22:07
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 239 Mike D 25-Nov-17 13:44
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 173 molder 25-Nov-17 20:51
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 151 Mike D 26-Nov-17 12:46
The Diolkos 150 molder 26-Nov-17 21:36
Re: The Diolkos 145 Mike D 27-Nov-17 10:03
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 162 Mike D 26-Nov-17 13:15
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 144 Tsurugi 27-Nov-17 09:40
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 158 Mike D 27-Nov-17 10:40
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 132 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 15:49
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 135 Origyptian 27-Nov-17 15:48
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