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The fact that we see (as in Clapham Junction, Malta) many parallel and close tracks following the same path and converging/ diverging at common points is a clear indication they were going from same point A to same point B, and the fact they are so numerous, visibly more than necessary, is an indication that the effect of soft limestone wear by transport of heavy loads obliged to save rails and to minimize the passages.

Or it made it necessary to regularly create new close and parallel rails in case of too important depth in formers. Note that it was also possible to fill in the bottom of rails with gravels, in flat and horizontal zones, to delay the wear.

In many cases, you have the feeling that a rails path was modified to connect to another one, in order to connect in a new pair of rails by abandoning a part of the former.
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Optimized paths could have been defined considering slopes, distance and location of "point A" and "point B". Then, it was not a big deal to engrave a line of passage to be followed for the first transportations, so creating initial tracks to be followed afterwards. Of course, such a process would be impossible on the totally disturbed terrain we see today, but long, long ago, the soil must have been smooth and much less damaged by erosion (and catastrophes, think of boulders hurled on ground by giant waves).

I live in a limestone region, with numerous stones just below ground in my garden. When necessary, it's relatively easy to break them with a pickaxe, and to reshape some border stones with a small (but strong) hoe.
Hard stone neolithic tools could do the job on soft limestone (of course, not the same story on granitic stones).

You proposed a part of this explanation with your examples of real railways, Clapham Junction in London and old fashioned signal box. Clapham junction in Malta looks random at first sight and at human eyes height, but walking around the zone and checking on aerial views makes you realize that there was here a sort of deliberate planning to fulfill organization needs.

Elsewhere, I don't know.

Michel Demaria (retired engineer, France)

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Clapham Junction Malta 1665 Rstevens1701 16-Oct-17 15:26
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 381 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 18:45
this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 307 Racho 16-Oct-17 22:45
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 359 Tsurugi 17-Oct-17 04:55
Not carts. 303 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 07:14
Re: Not carts. 217 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:00
Re: Not carts. 215 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 20:17
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 224 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 07:28
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 218 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 08:29
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 209 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:08
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 209 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 16:56
ships on land 210 molder 17-Oct-17 22:43
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 176 molder 18-Oct-17 12:22
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 204 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 13:00
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 186 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 17:23
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 193 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 18:26
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 192 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 19:01
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 150 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:44
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 142 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:36
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 274 molder 08-Nov-17 10:34
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 137 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 05:55
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 175 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 01:53
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 117 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:47
Black Tracks 196 Barbelo 19-Oct-17 01:59
Re: Black Tracks 202 randompHactor 19-Oct-17 02:16
Re: Black Tracks 256 Barbelo 21-Oct-17 00:20
Re: Black Tracks 141 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:51
Turkey Tracks 222 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 22:51
Re: Turkey Tracks 228 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 23:47
Re: Turkey Tracks 184 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 02:03
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Re: Turkey Tracks 261 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:58
Re: Turkey Tracks 2 223 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 23:54
Re: Turkey Tracks 2 164 Jon Ellison 19-Oct-17 01:03
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Re: Turkey Tracks 139 Barbelo 07-Nov-17 05:00
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Re: Turkey Tracks 141 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 19:20
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Re: Turkey Tracks 148 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 20:34
Re: Turkey Tracks 158 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 21:21
Re: Turkey Tracks 150 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 22:44
Re: Turkey Tracks 122 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 22:51
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Re: Turkey Tracks 133 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 23:52
Re: Turkey Tracks 215 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:38
Re: Turkey Tracks 202 Jon Ellison 08-Nov-17 09:58
Re: Turkey Tracks 110 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 02:40
Re: Turkey Tracks 267 Jon Ellison 09-Nov-17 08:08
Re: Turkey Tracks 179 Tsurugi 25-Nov-17 08:10
Re: Turkey Tracks 135 Mike D 26-Nov-17 16:57
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Re: Turkey Tracks 146 Mike D 27-Nov-17 09:47
Re: Turkey Tracks 177 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:16
Re: Turkey Tracks 125 Barbelo 07-Nov-17 21:26
Re: Turkey Tracks 219 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:46
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 137 Anonymous User 07-Nov-17 22:07
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 211 Mike D 25-Nov-17 13:44
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 159 molder 25-Nov-17 20:51
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 130 Mike D 26-Nov-17 12:46
The Diolkos 135 molder 26-Nov-17 21:36
Re: The Diolkos 127 Mike D 27-Nov-17 10:03
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 144 Mike D 26-Nov-17 13:15
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 124 Tsurugi 27-Nov-17 09:40
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 138 Mike D 27-Nov-17 10:40
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 160 Jon Ellison 27-Nov-17 11:07
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 114 Jon Ellison 27-Nov-17 18:32
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 122 Mike D 28-Nov-17 10:05
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 111 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 13:43
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 100 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:05
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 125 Mike D 28-Nov-17 18:22
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 135 Origyptian 29-Nov-17 03:16
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 210 Mike D 29-Nov-17 09:54
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 148 Origyptian 29-Nov-17 15:06
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 81 Mike D 30-Nov-17 11:25
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 92 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 12:41
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 112 Origyptian 30-Nov-17 13:56
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 144 Mike D 30-Nov-17 14:11
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 252 Origyptian 30-Nov-17 15:32
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 112 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 15:49
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 114 Mike D 28-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 131 Tsurugi 28-Nov-17 04:50
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 144 Mike D 28-Nov-17 10:46
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 122 Origyptian 27-Nov-17 15:48
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 205 Mike D 27-Nov-17 16:40
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 108 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 05:35
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 139 Mike D 28-Nov-17 09:50
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 108 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 15:34
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 146 Mike D 29-Nov-17 18:23
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 113 Origyptian 30-Nov-17 05:15
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 120 Tsurugi 28-Nov-17 05:09
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 299 Audrey 28-Nov-17 03:14
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 131 Mike D 28-Nov-17 09:39
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 140 Tsurugi 28-Nov-17 18:30
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 128 molder 28-Nov-17 21:35
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 159 Mike D 23-Nov-17 21:35
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Re: Chariot Tracks on The Streets of Pompeii 104 molder 30-Nov-17 05:22
Re: Chariot Tracks on The Streets of Pompeii 185 Mike D 30-Nov-17 10:59


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