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On an initial observation this appears to be the case.
However, the carts about which Darwin wrote during his visit to the Azores had a separate turning mechanism underneath the tray and not a fixed axle, which allowed for easier cornering.

As well, a pair of bullocks would tread the same path as the cart and being heavier, the cart would obliterate these hoofprints with its wheels.

Even if not a fixed axle, the large diameter, small width wheels of the carts could not make deep ruts in mud like the ruts we are seeing in stone. The upper part of the ruts should widen during sharper turns, because of the large diameter wheels, but they don't. For this same reason, the ruts in stone would break cart wheels when they hit a turn that wasn't extremely gradual.
This happens when the rut is deep enough that, if you measured along the edge of the rut from the front of the wheel to the back, you get more than 4 or 5 inches. If you have 12 inches of rut with wheel down in it, if that rut turns sharply it will break the wheel.

Everything I've read indicated these carts were single-animal pulls, but even if there were a pair of animals pulling and the cart wheels went directly through the animal tracks, the wheels aren't wide enough to obliterate the animal tracks. Cart/wagon wheels are a few inches wide at most. A typical four-legged beast of burden has hooves wider than that, and a stance much wider.

The ruts are artificial, but it seems highly unlikely they were powered by animals or people. Maybe sails? lol. I dunno.

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Clapham Junction Malta 1792 Rstevens1701 16-Oct-17 15:26
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 448 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 18:45
this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 350 Racho 16-Oct-17 22:45
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 427 Tsurugi 17-Oct-17 04:55
Not carts. 353 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 07:14
Re: Not carts. 270 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:00
Re: Not carts. 253 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 20:17
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 271 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 07:28
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 261 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 08:29
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 242 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:08
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 250 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 16:56
ships on land 250 molder 17-Oct-17 22:43
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 210 molder 18-Oct-17 12:22
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 255 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 13:00
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 225 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 17:23
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 232 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 18:26
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 241 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 19:01
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 191 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:44
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 180 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:36
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 312 molder 08-Nov-17 10:34
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 173 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 05:55
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 217 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 01:53
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 154 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:47
Black Tracks 239 Barbelo 19-Oct-17 01:59
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Re: Black Tracks 309 Barbelo 21-Oct-17 00:20
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Turkey Tracks 255 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 22:51
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 171 Anonymous User 07-Nov-17 22:07
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 287 Mike D 25-Nov-17 13:44
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The Diolkos 170 molder 26-Nov-17 21:36
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 202 Mike D 26-Nov-17 13:15
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 173 Tsurugi 27-Nov-17 09:40
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