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Origyptian Wrote:

> I'm skeptical about their hypothesis. How likely
> is it that the towing animal would be so precise
> to follow exactly the same path and not deviate
> more on the road. It's hard to believe that such a
> cart wouldn't leave tracks are much broader over
> the years of wear and tear along the road. Note
> the absence of any trough between the track
> marks that would indicate wear created by the
> animal that towed the cart. At least in some cases
> we would expect to see an animal trough that's
> deeper than the "wheel tracks" since the animal
> hoof could impose a larger psi.

Agreed.
It's not as if the route is constrained as in a roadway/street with buildings or walls or vegetation either side forcing route repetition. Not the shortest route between two points either, often referred to as a "Desire Path".

[en.wikipedia.org]

Wheeled cart ruts in stone require considerable constrained traffic flow over the exact same spot in order to even begin to establish a rut.
The "signature" is of a single or at least very few passes in soft material, which would explain the turnouts and crossovers. Problem being, it's not soft material..
So how does soft material get to be hard material and how long does that take?
As you say no hoof marks or indents, draft animals, usually being hoofed leave deep marks in soft stuff.
To me, they look more like drag marks in soft stuff rather than wheel ruts???

Clapham Junction in Malta is a small area where the top soil has been removed, the ruts appear to continue on into the surrounding areas. The rut field in Turkey, is as I understand it far more exposed and extensive.





Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 18-Oct-17 19:16 by Jon Ellison.

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Clapham Junction Malta 1860 Rstevens1701 16-Oct-17 15:26
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 498 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 18:45
this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 378 Racho 16-Oct-17 22:45
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 451 Tsurugi 17-Oct-17 04:55
Not carts. 376 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 07:14
Re: Not carts. 298 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:00
Re: Not carts. 278 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 20:17
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 303 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 07:28
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 290 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 08:29
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 262 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:08
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 274 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 16:56
ships on land 270 molder 17-Oct-17 22:43
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 231 molder 18-Oct-17 12:22
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 277 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 13:00
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 246 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 17:23
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 252 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 18:26
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 268 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 19:01
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 213 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:44
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 204 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:36
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 330 molder 08-Nov-17 10:34
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 190 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 05:55
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 237 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 01:53
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 179 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:47
Black Tracks 262 Barbelo 19-Oct-17 01:59
Re: Black Tracks 280 randompHactor 19-Oct-17 02:16
Re: Black Tracks 333 Barbelo 21-Oct-17 00:20
Re: Black Tracks 193 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:51
Turkey Tracks 289 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 22:51
Re: Turkey Tracks 293 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 23:47
Re: Turkey Tracks 231 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 02:03
Re: Turkey Tracks 268 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 02:07
Re: Turkey Tracks 265 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 03:00
Re: Turkey Tracks 263 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 04:22
Re: Turkey Tracks 340 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:58
Re: Turkey Tracks 2 288 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 23:54
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Re: Turkey Tracks 197 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 19:20
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Re: Turkey Tracks 204 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 20:12
Re: Turkey Tracks 253 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 20:34
Re: Turkey Tracks 222 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 21:21
Re: Turkey Tracks 210 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 22:44
Re: Turkey Tracks 175 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 22:51
Re: Turkey Tracks 301 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 22:58
Re: Turkey Tracks 194 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 23:52
Re: Turkey Tracks 291 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:38
Re: Turkey Tracks 260 Jon Ellison 08-Nov-17 09:58
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Re: Turkey Tracks 239 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:16
Re: Turkey Tracks 194 Barbelo 07-Nov-17 21:26
Re: Turkey Tracks 278 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:46
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 204 Anonymous User 07-Nov-17 22:07
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 319 Mike D 25-Nov-17 13:44
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 219 molder 25-Nov-17 20:51
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 194 Mike D 26-Nov-17 12:46
The Diolkos 189 molder 26-Nov-17 21:36
Re: The Diolkos 193 Mike D 27-Nov-17 10:03
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 234 Mike D 26-Nov-17 13:15
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 203 Tsurugi 27-Nov-17 09:40
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 221 Jon Ellison 27-Nov-17 11:07
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 183 Jon Ellison 27-Nov-17 18:32
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 176 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 11:03
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 170 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 13:43
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 158 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:05
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 200 Origyptian 29-Nov-17 03:16
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 213 Origyptian 29-Nov-17 15:06
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 146 Mike D 30-Nov-17 11:25
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 168 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 12:41
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 166 Origyptian 30-Nov-17 13:56
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 332 Origyptian 30-Nov-17 15:32
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 181 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 15:49
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 186 Mike D 28-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 210 Tsurugi 28-Nov-17 04:50
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 185 Origyptian 27-Nov-17 15:48
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 175 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 05:35
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 168 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 15:34
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 181 Origyptian 30-Nov-17 05:15
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