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Origyptian Wrote:

> I'm skeptical about their hypothesis. How likely
> is it that the towing animal would be so precise
> to follow exactly the same path and not deviate
> more on the road. It's hard to believe that such a
> cart wouldn't leave tracks are much broader over
> the years of wear and tear along the road. Note
> the absence of any trough between the track
> marks that would indicate wear created by the
> animal that towed the cart. At least in some cases
> we would expect to see an animal trough that's
> deeper than the "wheel tracks" since the animal
> hoof could impose a larger psi.

Agreed.
It's not as if the route is constrained as in a roadway/street with buildings or walls or vegetation either side forcing route repetition. Not the shortest route between two points either, often referred to as a "Desire Path".

[en.wikipedia.org]

Wheeled cart ruts in stone require considerable constrained traffic flow over the exact same spot in order to even begin to establish a rut.
The "signature" is of a single or at least very few passes in soft material, which would explain the turnouts and crossovers. Problem being, it's not soft material..
So how does soft material get to be hard material and how long does that take?
As you say no hoof marks or indents, draft animals, usually being hoofed leave deep marks in soft stuff.
To me, they look more like drag marks in soft stuff rather than wheel ruts???

Clapham Junction in Malta is a small area where the top soil has been removed, the ruts appear to continue on into the surrounding areas. The rut field in Turkey, is as I understand it far more exposed and extensive.





Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 18-Oct-17 19:16 by Jon Ellison.

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Clapham Junction Malta 1690 Rstevens1701 16-Oct-17 15:26
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 399 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 18:45
this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 317 Racho 16-Oct-17 22:45
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 377 Tsurugi 17-Oct-17 04:55
Not carts. 318 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 07:14
Re: Not carts. 230 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:00
Re: Not carts. 223 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 20:17
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 232 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 07:28
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 229 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 08:29
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 218 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 15:08
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 219 Jon Ellison 17-Oct-17 16:56
ships on land 219 molder 17-Oct-17 22:43
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 185 molder 18-Oct-17 12:22
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 215 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 13:00
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 194 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 17:23
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 205 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 18:26
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 204 Jon Ellison 18-Oct-17 19:01
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 159 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:44
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 152 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 05:36
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 285 molder 08-Nov-17 10:34
Re: ships on land thousands of slaves dug tracks at corinth 147 Tsurugi 09-Nov-17 05:55
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 189 Origyptian 18-Oct-17 01:53
Re: this is at odds with Newearth/Russian scientist findings/conclusions 125 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:47
Black Tracks 207 Barbelo 19-Oct-17 01:59
Re: Black Tracks 213 randompHactor 19-Oct-17 02:16
Re: Black Tracks 268 Barbelo 21-Oct-17 00:20
Re: Black Tracks 147 Tsurugi 07-Nov-17 03:51
Turkey Tracks 231 Barbelo 17-Oct-17 22:51
Re: Turkey Tracks 238 Origyptian 17-Oct-17 23:47
Re: Turkey Tracks 193 Barbelo 18-Oct-17 02:03
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Re: Turkey Tracks 149 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 19:20
Re: Turkey Tracks 154 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 20:03
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Re: Turkey Tracks 157 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 20:34
Re: Turkey Tracks 165 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 21:21
Re: Turkey Tracks 159 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 22:44
Re: Turkey Tracks 131 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 22:51
Re: Turkey Tracks 191 Origyptian 07-Nov-17 22:58
Re: Turkey Tracks 143 Jon Ellison 07-Nov-17 23:52
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Re: Turkey Tracks 190 Tsurugi 08-Nov-17 08:16
Re: Turkey Tracks 133 Barbelo 07-Nov-17 21:26
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 145 Anonymous User 07-Nov-17 22:07
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 224 Mike D 25-Nov-17 13:44
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 168 molder 25-Nov-17 20:51
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 140 Mike D 26-Nov-17 12:46
The Diolkos 142 molder 26-Nov-17 21:36
Re: The Diolkos 138 Mike D 27-Nov-17 10:03
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 154 Mike D 26-Nov-17 13:15
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 136 Tsurugi 27-Nov-17 09:40
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 149 Mike D 27-Nov-17 10:40
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 171 Jon Ellison 27-Nov-17 11:07
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 121 Jon Ellison 27-Nov-17 18:32
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 118 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 11:03
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 122 Jon Ellison 28-Nov-17 13:43
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 107 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 16:05
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 143 Origyptian 29-Nov-17 03:16
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 157 Origyptian 29-Nov-17 15:06
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 91 Mike D 30-Nov-17 11:25
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 102 Jon Ellison 30-Nov-17 12:41
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 122 Origyptian 30-Nov-17 13:56
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 152 Mike D 30-Nov-17 14:11
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 264 Origyptian 30-Nov-17 15:32
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 122 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 15:49
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 126 Mike D 28-Nov-17 18:28
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 143 Tsurugi 28-Nov-17 04:50
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 154 Mike D 28-Nov-17 10:46
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 129 Origyptian 27-Nov-17 15:48
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 219 Mike D 27-Nov-17 16:40
Re: Clapham Junction Malta 121 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 05:35
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 118 Origyptian 28-Nov-17 15:34
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Re: Clapham Junction Malta 128 Origyptian 30-Nov-17 05:15
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Re: Chariot Tracks on The Streets of Pompeii 113 molder 30-Nov-17 05:22
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