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Part of the introduction to my book

The Origin of Numerical Systems and the Manipulation of Pi and Other Mathematical Constants.



Our ancestors appear to have manipulated numerical systems based on their understanding of natural numbers. The imperial is a naturally occurring system of number based on the doubling of base two and multiplying by the sequential primes from three to eleven and removing base 7 through the design of Pi used within the system. Pi is used as 1760/560 or initially as 22/7.

The system Thom discovered is designed exactly the same way but the primes are taken to base 17, removing base 13 through the design of Pi. Pi is used as 1632/520 or initially as 40.8/13.

The reason for the use of these two versions of Pi will become clear as the book develops. The systems were surely understood by our ancestors before units of length were added to them to allow them to work on the ground.

The systems can be described as astro – geo – mathematical.

Our ancestors appear to have thought completely differently to us when counting, preferring to manipulate base numbers rather than simple sequential counting.

The manipulation of Pi is a discovery that is the foundation stone of the book and is arrived at by dividing real Pi by the base unit discovered by Thom of one megalithic inch of 0.816 imperial inches.

Real Pi / 0.816 gives 3.85 rounded

3.85 x 0.816 is Pi of 3.1416 exactly and understanding the primes contained in this version of Pi is the key to understanding the numerical systems they used.

385 is 11 x 7 x 5 and 816 is 17 x 3 x 16 (2 to the power 4 or doubled 3 times, or 1 doubled four times.) the two key systems the imperial and Thom are centred on this version of Pi and it represents the number 1000.

This appears to be the way our ancestors saw numbers. It is the only rational explanation that will fit the design of the Stonehenge Aubrey circle.

Other mathematical constants that are investigated are Phi the golden ratio and the Hermites constant (particularly important in understanding Hugh Franklin’s work at the Great Pyramid, he has given the constant a friendly name – the Hi.)

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