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Hi Ivano.

Vanya Wrote:
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> Hi Lee

> A bit late (I was busy) here are my suggestion:
>
> South Caucasus the Leyla-Tepe culture-
> Presently Azerbaijan..... once again all the
> hints
> points toward the area which nowadays is
> Azerbaoijan and nearby countries, maintain also
> the vision
> on the importance that the Kuban River played to
> connect cultures from East Caucasus bording
> Caspian Sea,
> and the West Bank of Caucasus bordering the Azov
> (and consequently Black) seas

Something to this effect is always what I have thought, but the fact is as of now the oldest Ubaid sites, not by much and of course the dating could be off, are found in the South near the Persian Gulf. The Leyla-Tepe culture postdate the arrival of the Ubaid in the north, c. 6200BC, by almost 2,000yrs do they not?

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> The culture has also been linked to the north
> Ubaid period monuments,[4] in particular, with the
> settlements in the Eastern Anatolia Region
> (Arslantepe, Coruchu-tepe, Tepechik, etc.).
> ..........
> It has been suggested that the Leyla-Tepe were the
> founders of the Maykop culture.
>

The Maykop are of course even later dating to the 4th millennium.

> About Ronnie Gallagher and I we were in contact
> for few years due to our experiences in
> Azerbaijan,
> which we had in different fields (Ronnie about Oil
> Pipelines - I about Hollow Glass Factory).
>
> NBD
>
> Ivano
>
> NOTE:
> Edited to add the Shulaveri-Shomu culture
> "" that existed on the territory of present-day
> Georgia,
> Azerbaijan and the Armenian Highlands.[1] The
> culture is dated to mid-6th or early-5th millennia
> BC and is
> thought to be one of the earliest known Neolithic
> cultures.""


This is interesting, but these do not solve the mystery of where the Ubaid originated from which as much as it has not been my thinking it may have been from the south beyond/around the Persian Gulf. There were known large migrations from the Caucasus to the southern regions c. 6,000BC but the Ubaid, supposedly, predate this by several centuries.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03-Oct-17 23:17 by Thanos5150.

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