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Audrey Wrote:
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> Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> > As far as the staining is concerned I think
> > everyone now agrees that it is some kind of
> stain
> > made by some kind of fluid flowing from the
> shaft.
> > IMO I don't think it's candle wax for the
> reasons
> > Romulus gave. The flow pattern.
> > No idea what it is other than it's a stain and
> > it's been photographed on numerous occasions,
> over
> > numerous decades, by numerous cameras, and
> > numerous formats, and numerous lighting
> > techniques.
> > Ori's suggestion is the best, north facing,
> open
> > shaft, open to torrential rain once every
> twenty
> > years for a thousand years. That's 50
> torrential
> > rainstorms. It's gonna get wet.
>
> I don't believe it either. What kind of rain
> bleaches stone? The stain is lighter than the
> stone, if it were darker I'd call it a stain. But
> for now I'm calling it bleached.
>
> Besides, there are many sandstorms every year at
> Giza, more sand is blown in than water pours in.
> By the time that first torrential rain came along
> how much sand do you think had accumulated in the
> shaft? Would have to be one hell of a downpour to
> clear the accumulated sand. There was a sandstorm
> when Gantenbrink was clearing this shaft dumping
> even more sand into an already clogged shaft. You
> would have to conclude that there were no
> sandstorms to choke the shaft in order for rain to
> flow freely and abundantly through the shaft
> making the white stain. And why would the rain
> stop inches from the floor?
>
> I have to chuckle at you guys who live in humid
> wet climates. Condensation? The only condensation
> you'll find in the desert is on your forehead as
> you sweat to death.
>
> I've tried to point this out before, but building
> a structure like this in a sea of sand with
> sandstorms is a major problem. Every time the wind
> kicks up there would be a layer of sand on
> everything that would have to be cleared if you
> want to maintain that 1/2" of level and joints as
> precise as we see. They would have needed a crew
> just to continually clear sand. They built upon a
> bedrock foundation so that the building wouldn't
> shift. Which means they were fully aware of the
> problems of a soil or soil/concrete foundation.
> Having this much construction knowledge they
> wouldn't make complicated shafts that would easily
> fill with sand and stones. It would defeat
> whatever purpose the shafts had. If they were
> intended as water conduits a once in 20yr
> torrential rain would accomplish what?
>
> Conclusion: the sand was not there when the
> pyramids were built.

Not only do I agree the sand likely was not there when that thing was built, I also believe it rained a hell of a lot more than it has over the past few millennia.

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