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eyeofhorus33 wrote:
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AS plausible, if not more so, than your claim of water having caused the stains, especially as there is documentary evidence in the historical record to account for candles being placed in the shaft entrance.

So, let’s look at the evidence:

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The history of the investigation of these shafts begins in September 1872, when the British engineer Waynman Dixon discovered the openings of the north and south shafts of the Queen’s Chamber. Dixon pushed a wire through the joints of the masonry of the south wall, and realized there was a hollow space behind. He then chiseled through the wall to reveal the shaft. He looked for a shaft in the equivalent area of the north wall and found one. When he lit a candle and placed it in the southern shaft, there was a slight draft.

"When he lit a candle and placed it in the southern shaft..." The evidence here is 1 candle. This evidence is extremely weak.

2nd Piece of evidence:
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The odor of bats, alive and dead is prominent. The empty sarcophagus is not very interesting. Our guides hold candles to the air-shafts to show that air comes in from the outside. They obligingly light very small pieces of magnesium wire of almost infinitesimal value.

So "they hold candles to the air-shafts". How long do you think it takes to show that air comes in from outside? Ever seen a candle burning with melting wax? It’s very slow. I seriously doubt that they were standing there for hours to show that air comes in from the outside. And let's assume they didn't want to burn their hands by hot wax.
So what is said here in this piece of evidence, is that they hold candles to the air shafts for probably a short moment of time, just like we would do in modern times with a lighter. Not long enough to create all those stains that are visible in the photos, and I bet they stopped the show when hot wax started to drip down on their hands, leaving behind no wax at all on the wall. So this evidence is also very weak.

It’s possible that there were lots of others who placed candles in the air shafts over the years, but that’s speculation, not evidence.

But what is really important here is the complete denial of the keypoint of my latest post, about wax going straight down, while the stains show that they get wider the more they get closer to the floor. Whether or not you believe these are water marks, they certainly cannot be caused by candle wax.



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