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Jon Ellison Wrote:

> No one is mocking anyone.

My apologies, Jon, for misunderstanding your comment.

> I'm questioning your assertion of "cold hard
> facts" which aren't "cold hard facts" at all.

It is a "cold hard fact" that there is a gap between the sides of the KC floor and the walls of the Chamber.
It is a "cold hard fact" that the limestone core blocks underneath the granite flooring have gaps between them.
Therefore, it is a "cold hard fact" that any water poured into the floor and wall gap will simply flow/trickle down into the Pyramid's core.
Origyptian has introduced the idea of a second floor in the KC - one fitted tight to the base of the Chamber's walls and thus making the Chamber watertight up to some level.


> They're part of your hypothesis and beliefs, which
> you are quite entitled to. Which until proven are
> no more valid or less valid than any others and
> therefore should not be presented as "cold hard
> facts" in any discussion.

Except when one encounters "cold hard facts" such as those mentioned above.

> I also think it possible that the walls might have
> been adorned with reed mats and pictures, anything
> is possible.
> At this time we simply do not know, one way or the
> other.
>
> I personally have seen photographic evidence
> presented by Romulus that for me supports the
> notion of water ingress through the KC air shaft
> openings.
> If water ingress is the cause of the staining, the
> discussion at the moment seems to be about the
> source of any water ingress.
> At present I prefer the external weather
> conditions or internal condensation build up.
> I may be wrong.

Perhaps somebody poured water into the section of the north shaft between Caviglia's Tunnel and the KC's north wall to loosen debris in it, and then used rods to push the wet debris out into the KC (think drain clearing) - which left traces of the whitish debris down the wall below the north shaft opening.

Robin (MJT)

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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 639 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:25
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 517 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:41
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 522 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 595 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 517 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 17:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 429 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 629 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 18:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 554 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 606 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 23:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 537 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 08:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 465 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 10:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 419 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:38
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 551 Howard West 13-Aug-17 23:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 563 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 00:40
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 481 Howard West 14-Aug-17 14:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 419 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 10:35
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 427 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:41
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 399 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Where the salt water came from 456 Howard West 15-Aug-17 14:44
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 488 Thunderbird 14-Aug-17 00:48
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 477 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 417 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:46
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 477 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 09:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 430 Merrell 14-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 423 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 12:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 383 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 16:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 410 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 400 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 19:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 395 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:33
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 382 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 22:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 424 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 422 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 377 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 00:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 454 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 00:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 448 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 07:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 400 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 381 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 392 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 437 cladking 15-Aug-17 00:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 465 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 12:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 447 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 435 Thunderbird 15-Aug-17 01:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 389 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 15:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 454 cladking 14-Aug-17 17:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 446 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 19:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 441 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 732 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 16:37
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 547 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 453 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 20:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 250 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 518 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 21:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 460 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 396 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 448 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 454 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 12:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 482 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 14:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 426 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 15:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 431 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 371 Thanos5150 15-Aug-17 21:11
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 385 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 22:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 415 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 23:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 407 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 15:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 428 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 16:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 529 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 16:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 396 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 19:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 373 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 20:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 382 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 435 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 22:14
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 412 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 20:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 400 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 380 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 376 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 452 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 368 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 23:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 398 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 418 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:49
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 413 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 422 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 12:16
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 435 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 21:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 414 Apap 15-Aug-17 23:33
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 376 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 03:47
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 395 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 12:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 458 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 14:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 387 Jon Ellison 16-Aug-17 13:01
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 489 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 21:03
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 430 cladking 17-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 422 Romulus the 2nd 17-Aug-17 23:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 374 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 393 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 16:56
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 393 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 383 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 378 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 407 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 21:07
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 364 Thanos5150 18-Aug-17 22:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 402 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:35
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 379 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:05
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 359 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 377 Apap 19-Aug-17 00:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 416 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 330 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 10:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 292 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:21
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 305 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 342 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 21:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 343 Origyptian 22-Aug-17 12:02
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 405 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 389 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 536 Apap 17-Aug-17 18:45
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 441 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 10:05
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 370 M. J. Thomas 18-Aug-17 18:22
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 421 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 489 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 424 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 376 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:50
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 479 Apap 18-Aug-17 18:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 372 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:20
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 383 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 390 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:28
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 374 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:15
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 389 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 20:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 434 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 354 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 307 Romulus the 2nd 20-Aug-17 21:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 408 DUNE 19-Aug-17 12:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 366 M. J. Thomas 19-Aug-17 20:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 424 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 22:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 399 DUNE 19-Aug-17 22:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 376 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 23:17
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 415 Origyptian 21-Aug-17 03:02
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Re: KC Watertight flooring 381 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 00:46
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Re: KC Watertight flooring 347 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:34
Re: KC Watertight flooring 446 Jon Ellison 20-Aug-17 07:41
Re: KC Watertight flooring 333 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 397 Apap 18-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 380 Dr. Troglodyte 18-Aug-17 22:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 440 Apap 18-Aug-17 23:51
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