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Jon Ellison Wrote:

> No one is mocking anyone.

My apologies, Jon, for misunderstanding your comment.

> I'm questioning your assertion of "cold hard
> facts" which aren't "cold hard facts" at all.

It is a "cold hard fact" that there is a gap between the sides of the KC floor and the walls of the Chamber.
It is a "cold hard fact" that the limestone core blocks underneath the granite flooring have gaps between them.
Therefore, it is a "cold hard fact" that any water poured into the floor and wall gap will simply flow/trickle down into the Pyramid's core.
Origyptian has introduced the idea of a second floor in the KC - one fitted tight to the base of the Chamber's walls and thus making the Chamber watertight up to some level.


> They're part of your hypothesis and beliefs, which
> you are quite entitled to. Which until proven are
> no more valid or less valid than any others and
> therefore should not be presented as "cold hard
> facts" in any discussion.

Except when one encounters "cold hard facts" such as those mentioned above.

> I also think it possible that the walls might have
> been adorned with reed mats and pictures, anything
> is possible.
> At this time we simply do not know, one way or the
> other.
>
> I personally have seen photographic evidence
> presented by Romulus that for me supports the
> notion of water ingress through the KC air shaft
> openings.
> If water ingress is the cause of the staining, the
> discussion at the moment seems to be about the
> source of any water ingress.
> At present I prefer the external weather
> conditions or internal condensation build up.
> I may be wrong.

Perhaps somebody poured water into the section of the north shaft between Caviglia's Tunnel and the KC's north wall to loosen debris in it, and then used rods to push the wet debris out into the KC (think drain clearing) - which left traces of the whitish debris down the wall below the north shaft opening.

Robin (MJT)

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Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 2662 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 14:57
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 522 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:14
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 518 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 464 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 406 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 381 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 402 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 412 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 415 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 17:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 327 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 485 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 18:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 435 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 475 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 23:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 395 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 08:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 350 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 10:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 325 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:38
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 412 Howard West 13-Aug-17 23:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 443 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 00:40
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 361 Howard West 14-Aug-17 14:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 301 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 10:35
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 325 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:41
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 280 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Where the salt water came from 338 Howard West 15-Aug-17 14:44
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 292 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 377 Thunderbird 14-Aug-17 00:48
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 371 gulsbo 15-Aug-17 16:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 383 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 282 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:46
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 352 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 09:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 339 Merrell 14-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 327 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 12:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 292 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 16:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 321 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 285 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 19:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 281 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:33
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 280 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 22:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 319 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 308 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 267 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 00:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 337 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 00:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 344 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 07:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 298 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 285 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 280 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 312 cladking 15-Aug-17 00:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 330 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 12:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 272 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 335 Thunderbird 15-Aug-17 01:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 295 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 15:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 361 cladking 14-Aug-17 17:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 313 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 19:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 326 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 516 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 16:37
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 415 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 360 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 20:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 158 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 415 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 21:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 320 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 301 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 303 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 332 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 12:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 377 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 14:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 299 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 15:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 335 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 270 Thanos5150 15-Aug-17 21:11
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 284 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 22:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 297 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 23:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 300 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 15:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 315 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 16:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 397 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 16:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 301 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 19:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 269 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 20:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 293 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 304 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 22:14
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 290 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 20:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 297 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 277 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 274 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 326 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 266 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 23:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 304 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 306 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:49
Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 328 Dr. Troglodyte 15-Aug-17 23:45
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Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 333 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:17
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 359 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:44
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 385 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 307 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 323 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 12:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 336 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:46
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 342 Thanos5150 15-Aug-17 20:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 308 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 21:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 300 Apap 15-Aug-17 23:33
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 313 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 217 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:13
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 292 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 312 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 279 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 03:47
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 338 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 04:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 284 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 12:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 335 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 14:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 282 Jon Ellison 16-Aug-17 13:01
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 397 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 21:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 311 eyeofhorus33 17-Aug-17 17:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 336 cladking 17-Aug-17 18:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 391 eyeofhorus33 17-Aug-17 19:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 320 cladking 17-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 326 Romulus the 2nd 17-Aug-17 23:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 279 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 301 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 16:56
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 302 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 286 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 270 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 287 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 21:07
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 269 Thanos5150 18-Aug-17 22:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 315 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:35
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 264 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 333 Thanos5150 18-Aug-17 23:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 297 Apap 18-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 265 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 273 Apap 19-Aug-17 00:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 304 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 214 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 10:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 198 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:21
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 212 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 244 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 21:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 247 Origyptian 22-Aug-17 12:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 181 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 21:15
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 204 Origyptian 23-Aug-17 04:01
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 268 Audrey 23-Aug-17 02:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 252 Origyptian 23-Aug-17 04:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 352 Jon Ellison 23-Aug-17 08:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 292 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 284 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 423 Apap 17-Aug-17 18:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 356 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 00:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 337 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 10:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 298 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 17:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 269 M. J. Thomas 18-Aug-17 18:22
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 326 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 383 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 299 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 271 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:50
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 365 Apap 18-Aug-17 18:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 282 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:20
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 287 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 287 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:28
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 278 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:15
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 304 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 20:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 318 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 264 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 209 Romulus the 2nd 20-Aug-17 21:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 306 DUNE 19-Aug-17 12:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 263 M. J. Thomas 19-Aug-17 20:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 317 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 22:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 296 DUNE 19-Aug-17 22:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 273 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 23:17
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 302 Origyptian 21-Aug-17 03:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 287 Jon Ellison 21-Aug-17 09:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 282 Origyptian 22-Aug-17 05:21
Re: KC Watertight flooring 273 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 00:46
Re: KC Watertight flooring 217 Origyptian 20-Aug-17 04:00
Re: KC Watertight flooring 240 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:34
Re: KC Watertight flooring 348 Jon Ellison 20-Aug-17 07:41
Re: KC Watertight flooring 242 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 298 Apap 18-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 285 Dr. Troglodyte 18-Aug-17 22:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 351 Apap 18-Aug-17 23:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 352 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 230 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 00:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 196 Origyptian 20-Aug-17 04:15


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