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Jon Ellison Wrote:

> No one is mocking anyone.

My apologies, Jon, for misunderstanding your comment.

> I'm questioning your assertion of "cold hard
> facts" which aren't "cold hard facts" at all.

It is a "cold hard fact" that there is a gap between the sides of the KC floor and the walls of the Chamber.
It is a "cold hard fact" that the limestone core blocks underneath the granite flooring have gaps between them.
Therefore, it is a "cold hard fact" that any water poured into the floor and wall gap will simply flow/trickle down into the Pyramid's core.
Origyptian has introduced the idea of a second floor in the KC - one fitted tight to the base of the Chamber's walls and thus making the Chamber watertight up to some level.


> They're part of your hypothesis and beliefs, which
> you are quite entitled to. Which until proven are
> no more valid or less valid than any others and
> therefore should not be presented as "cold hard
> facts" in any discussion.

Except when one encounters "cold hard facts" such as those mentioned above.

> I also think it possible that the walls might have
> been adorned with reed mats and pictures, anything
> is possible.
> At this time we simply do not know, one way or the
> other.
>
> I personally have seen photographic evidence
> presented by Romulus that for me supports the
> notion of water ingress through the KC air shaft
> openings.
> If water ingress is the cause of the staining, the
> discussion at the moment seems to be about the
> source of any water ingress.
> At present I prefer the external weather
> conditions or internal condensation build up.
> I may be wrong.

Perhaps somebody poured water into the section of the north shaft between Caviglia's Tunnel and the KC's north wall to loosen debris in it, and then used rods to push the wet debris out into the KC (think drain clearing) - which left traces of the whitish debris down the wall below the north shaft opening.

Robin (MJT)

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Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 2358 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 14:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 466 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 15:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 447 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:14
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 433 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 357 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 313 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 302 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 324 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 326 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 350 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 17:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 265 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 395 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 18:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 346 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 370 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 23:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 330 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 08:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 271 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 10:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 259 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:38
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 335 Howard West 13-Aug-17 23:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 340 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 00:40
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 305 Howard West 14-Aug-17 14:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 241 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 10:35
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 251 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:41
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 222 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Where the salt water came from 262 Howard West 15-Aug-17 14:44
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 214 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 307 Thunderbird 14-Aug-17 00:48
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 266 gulsbo 15-Aug-17 16:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 297 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 215 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:46
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 274 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 09:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 269 Merrell 14-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 261 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 12:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 229 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 16:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 256 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 218 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 19:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 221 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:33
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 216 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 22:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 241 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 233 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 212 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 00:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 252 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 00:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 268 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 07:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 215 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 226 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 197 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 249 cladking 15-Aug-17 00:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 253 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 12:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 218 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 255 Thunderbird 15-Aug-17 01:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 229 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 15:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 293 cladking 14-Aug-17 17:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 232 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 19:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 244 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 397 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 16:37
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 317 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 290 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 20:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 116 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 328 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 21:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 253 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 241 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 226 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 247 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 12:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 296 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 14:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 230 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 15:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 263 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 206 Thanos5150 15-Aug-17 21:11
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 209 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 22:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 226 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 23:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 235 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 15:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 245 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 16:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 295 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 16:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 238 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 19:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 209 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 20:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 236 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 221 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 22:14
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 218 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 20:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 232 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 215 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 216 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 242 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 199 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 23:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 240 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 247 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:49
Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 259 Dr. Troglodyte 15-Aug-17 23:45
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 237 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:47
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 232 Jon Ellison 16-Aug-17 01:05
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 247 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 03:38
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 190 Jon Ellison 16-Aug-17 14:03
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 245 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:17
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 275 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:44
mise–en–scène 368 Dr. Troglodyte 16-Aug-17 23:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 311 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 246 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 250 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 12:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 251 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:46
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 261 Thanos5150 15-Aug-17 20:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 243 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 21:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 226 Apap 15-Aug-17 23:33
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 237 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 173 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:13
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 222 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 249 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 212 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 03:47
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 277 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 04:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 206 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 12:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 270 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 14:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 229 Jon Ellison 16-Aug-17 13:01
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 324 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 21:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 248 eyeofhorus33 17-Aug-17 17:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 275 cladking 17-Aug-17 18:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 301 eyeofhorus33 17-Aug-17 19:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 258 cladking 17-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 251 Romulus the 2nd 17-Aug-17 23:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 209 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 235 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 16:56
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 231 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 210 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 217 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 212 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 21:07
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 197 Thanos5150 18-Aug-17 22:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 230 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:35
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 207 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 257 Thanos5150 18-Aug-17 23:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 224 Apap 18-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 206 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 212 Apap 19-Aug-17 00:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 241 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 142 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 10:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 142 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:21
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 162 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 165 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 21:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 176 Origyptian 22-Aug-17 12:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 115 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 21:15
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 144 Origyptian 23-Aug-17 04:01
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 197 Audrey 23-Aug-17 02:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 167 Origyptian 23-Aug-17 04:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 279 Jon Ellison 23-Aug-17 08:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 214 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 228 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 345 Apap 17-Aug-17 18:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 284 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 00:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 268 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 10:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 236 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 17:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 208 M. J. Thomas 18-Aug-17 18:22
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 246 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 285 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 230 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 209 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:50
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 260 Apap 18-Aug-17 18:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 211 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:20
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 214 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 222 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:28
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 198 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:15
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 236 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 20:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 247 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 207 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 150 Romulus the 2nd 20-Aug-17 21:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 240 DUNE 19-Aug-17 12:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 230 M. J. Thomas 19-Aug-17 20:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 238 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 22:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 235 DUNE 19-Aug-17 22:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 198 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 23:17
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 237 Origyptian 21-Aug-17 03:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 216 Jon Ellison 21-Aug-17 09:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 195 Origyptian 22-Aug-17 05:21
Re: KC Watertight flooring 201 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 00:46
Re: KC Watertight flooring 146 Origyptian 20-Aug-17 04:00
Re: KC Watertight flooring 165 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:34
Re: KC Watertight flooring 266 Jon Ellison 20-Aug-17 07:41
Re: KC Watertight flooring 163 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 218 Apap 18-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 222 Dr. Troglodyte 18-Aug-17 22:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 261 Apap 18-Aug-17 23:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 284 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 190 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 00:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 168 Origyptian 20-Aug-17 04:15


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