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Jon Ellison Wrote:

> No one is mocking anyone.

My apologies, Jon, for misunderstanding your comment.

> I'm questioning your assertion of "cold hard
> facts" which aren't "cold hard facts" at all.

It is a "cold hard fact" that there is a gap between the sides of the KC floor and the walls of the Chamber.
It is a "cold hard fact" that the limestone core blocks underneath the granite flooring have gaps between them.
Therefore, it is a "cold hard fact" that any water poured into the floor and wall gap will simply flow/trickle down into the Pyramid's core.
Origyptian has introduced the idea of a second floor in the KC - one fitted tight to the base of the Chamber's walls and thus making the Chamber watertight up to some level.


> They're part of your hypothesis and beliefs, which
> you are quite entitled to. Which until proven are
> no more valid or less valid than any others and
> therefore should not be presented as "cold hard
> facts" in any discussion.

Except when one encounters "cold hard facts" such as those mentioned above.

> I also think it possible that the walls might have
> been adorned with reed mats and pictures, anything
> is possible.
> At this time we simply do not know, one way or the
> other.
>
> I personally have seen photographic evidence
> presented by Romulus that for me supports the
> notion of water ingress through the KC air shaft
> openings.
> If water ingress is the cause of the staining, the
> discussion at the moment seems to be about the
> source of any water ingress.
> At present I prefer the external weather
> conditions or internal condensation build up.
> I may be wrong.

Perhaps somebody poured water into the section of the north shaft between Caviglia's Tunnel and the KC's north wall to loosen debris in it, and then used rods to push the wet debris out into the KC (think drain clearing) - which left traces of the whitish debris down the wall below the north shaft opening.

Robin (MJT)

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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 539 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 498 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 423 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 402 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 423 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 428 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 430 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 17:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 346 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 512 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 18:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 463 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 497 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 23:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 419 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 08:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 364 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 10:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 340 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:38
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 430 Howard West 13-Aug-17 23:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 459 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 00:40
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 381 Howard West 14-Aug-17 14:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 319 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 10:35
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 341 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:41
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 295 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Where the salt water came from 352 Howard West 15-Aug-17 14:44
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 308 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 394 Thunderbird 14-Aug-17 00:48
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 400 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 302 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:46
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 368 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 09:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 356 Merrell 14-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 343 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 12:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 306 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 16:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 337 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 309 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 19:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 315 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:33
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 293 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 22:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 336 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 335 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 281 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 00:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 354 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 00:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 368 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 07:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 316 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 298 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 295 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 339 cladking 15-Aug-17 00:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 349 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 12:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 286 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 349 Thunderbird 15-Aug-17 01:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 308 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 15:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 375 cladking 14-Aug-17 17:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 334 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 19:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 356 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 547 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 16:37
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 439 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 374 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 20:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 171 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 432 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 21:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 334 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 313 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 332 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 347 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 12:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 392 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 14:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 314 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 15:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 348 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 286 Thanos5150 15-Aug-17 21:11
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 303 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 22:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 316 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 23:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 320 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 15:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 331 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 16:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 416 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 16:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 317 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 19:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 284 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 20:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 304 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 327 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 22:14
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 303 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 20:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 312 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 291 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 290 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 348 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 281 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 23:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 318 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 333 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:49
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 400 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 322 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 337 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 12:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 356 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:46
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 355 Thanos5150 15-Aug-17 20:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 322 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 21:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 315 Apap 15-Aug-17 23:33
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 340 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:44
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 327 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 293 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 03:47
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 352 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 04:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 302 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 12:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 360 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 14:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 294 Jon Ellison 16-Aug-17 13:01
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 412 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 21:03
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 333 cladking 17-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 342 Romulus the 2nd 17-Aug-17 23:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 293 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 316 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 16:56
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 316 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 304 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 286 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 317 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 21:07
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 285 Thanos5150 18-Aug-17 22:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 327 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:35
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 275 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 351 Thanos5150 18-Aug-17 23:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 314 Apap 18-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 283 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 296 Apap 19-Aug-17 00:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 318 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 238 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 10:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 213 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:21
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 226 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 260 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 21:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 262 Origyptian 22-Aug-17 12:02
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Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 369 Jon Ellison 23-Aug-17 08:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 318 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 304 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 448 Apap 17-Aug-17 18:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 379 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 00:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 353 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 10:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 316 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 17:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 284 M. J. Thomas 18-Aug-17 18:22
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 351 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 407 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 326 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 287 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:50
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 387 Apap 18-Aug-17 18:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 298 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:20
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 303 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 309 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:28
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 299 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:15
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 324 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 20:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 336 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 281 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 225 Romulus the 2nd 20-Aug-17 21:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 322 DUNE 19-Aug-17 12:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 275 M. J. Thomas 19-Aug-17 20:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 335 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 22:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 312 DUNE 19-Aug-17 22:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 289 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 23:17
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 320 Origyptian 21-Aug-17 03:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 305 Jon Ellison 21-Aug-17 09:27
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Re: KC Watertight flooring 287 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 00:46
Re: KC Watertight flooring 253 Origyptian 20-Aug-17 04:00
Re: KC Watertight flooring 269 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:34
Re: KC Watertight flooring 366 Jon Ellison 20-Aug-17 07:41
Re: KC Watertight flooring 262 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 320 Apap 18-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 303 Dr. Troglodyte 18-Aug-17 22:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 370 Apap 18-Aug-17 23:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 377 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 244 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 00:55
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