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Jon Ellison Wrote:

> No one is mocking anyone.

My apologies, Jon, for misunderstanding your comment.

> I'm questioning your assertion of "cold hard
> facts" which aren't "cold hard facts" at all.

It is a "cold hard fact" that there is a gap between the sides of the KC floor and the walls of the Chamber.
It is a "cold hard fact" that the limestone core blocks underneath the granite flooring have gaps between them.
Therefore, it is a "cold hard fact" that any water poured into the floor and wall gap will simply flow/trickle down into the Pyramid's core.
Origyptian has introduced the idea of a second floor in the KC - one fitted tight to the base of the Chamber's walls and thus making the Chamber watertight up to some level.


> They're part of your hypothesis and beliefs, which
> you are quite entitled to. Which until proven are
> no more valid or less valid than any others and
> therefore should not be presented as "cold hard
> facts" in any discussion.

Except when one encounters "cold hard facts" such as those mentioned above.

> I also think it possible that the walls might have
> been adorned with reed mats and pictures, anything
> is possible.
> At this time we simply do not know, one way or the
> other.
>
> I personally have seen photographic evidence
> presented by Romulus that for me supports the
> notion of water ingress through the KC air shaft
> openings.
> If water ingress is the cause of the staining, the
> discussion at the moment seems to be about the
> source of any water ingress.
> At present I prefer the external weather
> conditions or internal condensation build up.
> I may be wrong.

Perhaps somebody poured water into the section of the north shaft between Caviglia's Tunnel and the KC's north wall to loosen debris in it, and then used rods to push the wet debris out into the KC (think drain clearing) - which left traces of the whitish debris down the wall below the north shaft opening.

Robin (MJT)

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Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 1832 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 14:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 349 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 15:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 337 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:14
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 322 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 276 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 229 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 209 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 226 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 16:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 212 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 16:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 252 Jon Ellison 13-Aug-17 17:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 193 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 278 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 18:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 241 Romulus the 2nd 13-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 229 Thanos5150 13-Aug-17 23:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 220 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 08:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 197 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 10:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 161 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:38
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 233 Howard West 13-Aug-17 23:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 225 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 00:40
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 194 Howard West 14-Aug-17 14:59
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 151 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 10:35
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 164 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:41
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 138 D-Archer 15-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Where the salt water came from 169 Howard West 15-Aug-17 14:44
Re: Water marks on Queen's Chamber 135 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 218 Thunderbird 14-Aug-17 00:48
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 171 gulsbo 15-Aug-17 16:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 191 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 136 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:46
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 184 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 09:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 180 Merrell 14-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 172 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 12:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 140 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 16:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 165 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 138 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 19:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 143 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:33
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 135 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 22:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 151 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 148 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 135 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 00:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 161 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 00:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 174 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 07:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 138 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 138 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 116 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 23:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 159 cladking 15-Aug-17 00:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 173 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 12:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 145 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 14:13
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 185 Thunderbird 15-Aug-17 01:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 147 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 15:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 194 cladking 14-Aug-17 17:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 144 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 19:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 145 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:40
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 202 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 16:37
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 197 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 17:52
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 190 M. J. Thomas 14-Aug-17 20:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 85 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 193 Thanos5150 14-Aug-17 21:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 164 Romulus the 2nd 14-Aug-17 22:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 148 Jon Ellison 14-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 135 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 154 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 12:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 189 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 14:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 143 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 15:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 162 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 16:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 128 Thanos5150 15-Aug-17 21:11
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 130 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 22:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 128 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 23:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 144 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 15:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 151 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 16:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 170 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 16:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 138 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 19:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 141 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 20:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 139 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 135 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 22:14
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 139 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 20:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 134 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:24
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 133 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 21:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 132 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 22:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 143 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:38
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 126 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 23:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 149 M. J. Thomas 15-Aug-17 23:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 146 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:49
Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 164 Dr. Troglodyte 15-Aug-17 23:45
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 144 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:47
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 150 Jon Ellison 16-Aug-17 01:05
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 160 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 03:38
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 119 Jon Ellison 16-Aug-17 14:03
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 149 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:17
Re: Great Step ‘V-Shape’ Depression 167 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 22:44
mise–en–scène 217 Dr. Troglodyte 16-Aug-17 23:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 193 Origyptian 14-Aug-17 23:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 160 Romulus the 2nd 15-Aug-17 11:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 155 Jon Ellison 15-Aug-17 12:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 167 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 13:46
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 164 Thanos5150 15-Aug-17 20:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 141 Origyptian 15-Aug-17 21:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 131 Apap 15-Aug-17 23:33
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 141 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 00:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 127 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:13
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 136 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:25
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 148 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 01:31
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 141 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 03:47
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 174 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 04:41
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 122 Origyptian 16-Aug-17 12:29
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 174 Thanos5150 16-Aug-17 14:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 148 Jon Ellison 16-Aug-17 13:01
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 207 Romulus the 2nd 16-Aug-17 21:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 159 eyeofhorus33 17-Aug-17 17:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 173 cladking 17-Aug-17 18:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 215 eyeofhorus33 17-Aug-17 19:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 166 cladking 17-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 162 Romulus the 2nd 17-Aug-17 23:18
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 130 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:42
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 145 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 16:56
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 137 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 124 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 132 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:44
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 126 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 21:07
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 116 Thanos5150 18-Aug-17 22:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 137 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:35
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 129 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 147 Thanos5150 18-Aug-17 23:30
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 137 Apap 18-Aug-17 23:32
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 124 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 23:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 122 Apap 19-Aug-17 00:03
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 153 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:08
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 70 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 10:00
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 71 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:21
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 84 Jon Ellison 22-Aug-17 11:39
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 92 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 21:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 107 Origyptian 22-Aug-17 12:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 62 Romulus the 2nd 22-Aug-17 21:15
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 62 Origyptian 23-Aug-17 04:01
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 119 Audrey 23-Aug-17 02:09
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 92 Origyptian 23-Aug-17 04:06
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 195 Jon Ellison 23-Aug-17 08:57
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 131 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 00:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 142 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:34
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 211 Apap 17-Aug-17 18:45
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 177 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 00:36
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 180 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 10:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 133 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 17:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 132 M. J. Thomas 18-Aug-17 18:22
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 155 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:12
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 157 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:23
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 145 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 19:49
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 121 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 16:50
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 160 Apap 18-Aug-17 18:05
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 127 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:20
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 122 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 19:58
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 135 Jon Ellison 18-Aug-17 20:28
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 123 Origyptian 18-Aug-17 20:15
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 151 Romulus the 2nd 18-Aug-17 20:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 150 Apap 18-Aug-17 22:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 124 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:10
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 74 Romulus the 2nd 20-Aug-17 21:59
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 158 DUNE 19-Aug-17 12:16
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 170 M. J. Thomas 19-Aug-17 20:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 149 Jon Ellison 19-Aug-17 22:04
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 144 DUNE 19-Aug-17 22:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 113 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 23:17
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 156 Origyptian 21-Aug-17 03:02
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 144 Jon Ellison 21-Aug-17 09:27
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 109 Origyptian 22-Aug-17 05:21
Re: KC Watertight flooring 118 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 00:46
Re: KC Watertight flooring 79 Origyptian 20-Aug-17 04:00
Re: KC Watertight flooring 89 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:34
Re: KC Watertight flooring 171 Jon Ellison 20-Aug-17 07:41
Re: KC Watertight flooring 88 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 17:26
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 145 Apap 18-Aug-17 21:43
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 143 Dr. Troglodyte 18-Aug-17 22:54
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 170 Apap 18-Aug-17 23:51
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 196 Origyptian 19-Aug-17 15:53
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 108 M. J. Thomas 20-Aug-17 00:55
Re: Water marks on King's Chamber shaft opening 120 Origyptian 20-Aug-17 04:15


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