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Romulus the 2nd Wrote:
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If what you've outlined in red is water
> damage, why is it so irregular instead of showing
> a true "level"? What kind of liquid behavior
> would be a few inches thick but leave such an
> irregular mark around the base of the walls and
> stone box? Especially up there at the level of the KC?

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> I explained this before. The water was not
> standing still. The "waterfall" marks also show
> that quiet a lot of water was coming out of the
> shaft so it was restless with a lot of waves.
> That's how I interprete those marks.

Waves are dynamic, not static. Your outline of the stain implies a static, not dynamic scenario. Liquid waves constantly wax and wane such that over time they would have an average level that defines a straight horizontal plane. Any stain from such a dynamic would not be irregular as you've drawn. It would be linearly horizontal but perhaps would be a "fuzzy" line and not a solid line, similar to time-lapse photography of a stream or waterfall where the borders define a straight and not wavy surface: [vunature.com]


> It's often said that the pyramid was flooded, but
> I believe that there's even more evidence that the
> Pyramid was DESIGNED for water to flow through.

To be clear, I don't argue against that point. It's quite possible that G1's primary function involved water, and massive quantities of it.


> There once was a very important clue to be found
> in the Great Pyramid, real evidence: The Great
> Step, what was originally a huge V-shaped block.
> This was not just a worn out stoneblock but
> originally designed in a V-shape.

That damage is far too eratic to be the result of water erosion. Water drainage from KC would result in a straight V in line with the axis of the Antechamber portal. But that V is not aligned but rather has a sideways angle to it. The V is also not symmetrical but rather has different slopes to the east and west of the valley. Water would not carve such a sharp "V" but rather would have been more gradual - there is nothing there that would focus the water to that small segment where the V is. Also, for that much water to have passed across the Step to cause that kind of erosion in the Step, we also would see a trench at the bottom of the step representing the erosive force of the water as it pummeled the floor of the GG as it fell off the Step. The Great Step damage does not follow the pattern of liquid erosion at all.

Likewise, the damage doesn't reflect a pattern supporting large tourist volume. Again, you would see a smoother broader pattern of damage and not a crooked central V. Also, it is far more likely that tourists used the side ramps to climb up to the Great Step rather than hoisting themselves up a full meter from the floor. The Edgars were very clear in pointing out how much easier it is to climb onto the Great Step from the side ramps instead of directly from the GG floor.

From everything I've seen and read about the Great Step, I think it's far more probable that the damage is the result of deliberate manual intervention incurred perhaps by pillagers to make room to remove something big out of the KC or to drag something up the GG into the KC.


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As seems to be the case with the stain under the KC shaft, the above photo appears to be the only photo of the Great Step before the repair was made.


> In modern times it looks like this:
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> They destroyed one of the most important pieces of
> evidence. These people call themselves
> egyptologists but don't even recognize what is
> really important.
> It's also possible of course that they did it on
> purpose, who knows.

Depressing, isn't it? That they would call that a "restoration" which, first of all destroys an important historic surface that might have lent itself to the discovery of important data, while at the same time making the grandiose claim that they knew it was a simple squared off step without really knowing if something was there that had been chiseled away in ancient times. These Orwellian "restorations" only serve to destroy, not restore, irreplaceable historic evidence. And they have the nerve to decry drilling a 1cm hole in the wall at KV62 just to see if maybe, just maybe, we might find Nefertiti's tomb?! Ridiculous double standard.

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