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Jon Ellison Wrote:
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> M. J. Thomas Wrote:
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> -----
> > Origyptian Wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> > > Why would a "tomb" need such vast complexity
> in
> > > the masonry of an otherwise simple, short,
> > narrow,
> > > slippery, dark, angled, straight, rectangular
> > > shaft?
> >
> > Has this 'vast complexity' Jon has 'discovered'
> > been confirmed by anybody?
>
> You can confirm the vast complexity yourself by
> studying the M&R drawings and then projecting the
> visible block joint lines into the masonry.
>
> >
> > Don't forget that some 50% of each of these
> three
> > Girdle Stones are buried in the Passage walls,
>
> Actually according to the M&R drawings there are
> six girdle stones. Three compound girdles and a
> number of inclusions.
> I'm not on my graphics computer at the moment.
>
> > roof and floor, and thus completely invisible
> to
> > all and sundry.
>
> As above.
> The block joint lines are visible from inside the
> passage, have been documented and can therefore be
> three dimensionally projected into the masonry.
>
>
> >
> > What would 'need such vast complexity in the
> > masonry of an otherwise simple, short, narrow,
> > slippery, dark, angled, straight, rectangular
> > shaft?'
> > Has anybody here any suggestions?
>
> Not at the moment. The analyses and conclusion
> usually comes sometime after the observation.
> The observation is still in progress.
>
> > Surely what we are looking at here is something
> > that has no practical application; in other
> words,
> > something purely symbolic.
>
> As you previously stated, "it is completely
> invisible to all and sundry", being buried in core
> masonry.
> An invisible symbol???
>
> Here's a teaser.
> Group one. Lower AP. Viewed from low angle, west.
>
>


Edgar was very clear in commenting about the unique nature of those blocks. It took an enormous amount of time from him to document that. On several occasions he wanted to quit, but he carried on, carefully documenting the shape of every joint along the AP, and M&R obviously respected that same layout.

And we can be pretty sure Edgar was faithful to those joints since he didn't assert that any other passage had that same complex character.

meanwhile, I'd love to hear an interpretation of the "symbolism" that has been suggested for that passage.

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