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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> Again:
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> Here is the shaft opening taken in the same photo
> shoot as the one above in 1910 (Edgar Bros):
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> No "waterfall" here, sorry. Or bat shit. Just
> scuff marks and chipping.
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> One thing that is getting washed out in these old
> B&W photos is the seam that runs right through the
> shaft block Which we can see depending on contrast
> lights up bright white including some of the
> chipping around it:
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> A picture of the opposite wall taken from the same
> period before the walls were cleaned of graffiti:
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> Like magic no "water marks" along the bottom of
> the walls. Though it stands to reason both shafts
> would be spewing "waterfalls" of water, even if
> only just the one we would expect to see the same
> floor marks on all the walls yet they are clearly
> not there.
>
> So, what was this again about "undeniable proof"?

I hope you realize Edgar's "1872" photo is the QC shaft that was opened by Dixon and is not the KC shaft that shows the vertical stain under it in Edgar's photo. We'd only expect to see chipping and no sign of flow around that portal, so it's not clear what point you were trying to make by posting that.

The photos taken of the southern KC wall are not the same photo shoot and so likely involved a different time, film, camera, processing, and photographer vs. the Edgar session. The contrast and detail resolution are very different than Edgar's. No way to make a valid comparison of features between the two photo shoots. On your close up of that west wall the graffiti is very loud and clear, and yet is hardly visible in the wide angle view that includes the south wall. The opening of the southern KC shaft is a lot larger than that of the north wall and can't be properly visualized in that photo of the south wall, but I wouldn't expect to see any subtle staining coming out of that shaft.

Besides, as I said in a previous post in this discussion, I wouldn't expect to see a "flow" stain out of the southern KC shaft portal since I think it's highly likely the stain on the north face is due to rain water dragging limestone powder onto the KC wall, and the weather primarily hit the north face, not the south face.

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