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Dear Mr M Culhane

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Ok so we're talking about Ireland being the basis of the Atlantis(..)When I first started working with the ARARAT code, which shows the end of a journey, and I reversed the characters to find the beginning of the journey, I concluded the code was showing us that the island of Ireland was the basis of the "Atlantis" and also "Garden of Eden" stories that are available today in the alleged "writings of Plato" and bibles.(...)no serious scholar thinks anyone today really has the original writings of Plato

It is to me very doubtful that Ireland could be the origin of Atlantis story. Moreover Herodotus spoke about Atlantes people near Mount Atlas and Atlantis ocean on Morocco shores before Plato. I am not aware of any dispute about Plato writings not from Plato, your words only. If not from Plato, who wrote them, Is there any claim of that kind?
This being said, this story begins during the age of gods and ends about 9600 BC. The end of Atlantis coincides with the catastrophic end of the Ice Age. So Atlantis thrived during last Ice Age.
Hereunder is a map of Ireland during last glaciation:

Most of the island was unhinabitable during these times, many places like the Burren, the glacier valleys,the large bogs areas, some in mountains like Wicklow mountains (especially Sally Gap), are clear evidences.

What science says: There are no paleolithic traces. "Ireland's First Settlers: Time and the Mesolithic_Peter Woodman_Chapter 7: The first arrivals"_The island seems to have remained devoid of humans during the first 1500 years of Holocene (pre-boreal age).

What tradition says: First humans came after diluvium, maybe 8000-9000 years BC, through several invasions waves, described in the Leabhar Gabhala Eireann, or Lebor Gabhala.
"The Lebor Gabhála tells of Ireland being settled (or 'taken') six times by six groups of people: the people of Cessair, the people of Partholón, the people of Nemed, the Fir Bolg, the Tuatha Dé Danann, and the Milesians. The first four groups are wiped out or forced to abandon the island, the fifth group represent Ireland's pagan gods,[1] while the final group represent the Irish people (the Gaels)."

Fomorians giants were there first, coming from the sea. Maybe were they remnants of some giant races survivors of catastrophes (beginning of Ice Age Ending), who settled there maybe as refugiees. Others came later, like Cessair, descendant of Noah, coming at time of the Flood (End of Ice Age), those of Partholon, Nemed, Firebolgs, Thuatas, Milesians, from what is now Middle east, Greece, Spain, and so on. Then the Gaels from central Europe. Relatively late, 1500 years BC.
Thuata De Danann were possible descendants of atlantean survivors still living in Atlantic islands. This could be the unique link I can see with Atlantis.

A more relevant link would be the story of Hyperborea in greek mythology.
Hyperborea giants and priests of Apollon

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I mentioned Sitchin earlier. He claims that the very first base for the first civilization on Earth was in Eridu in Mesopotamia. He claims Eridu means "Earth" and shows how variants of that word are used in various language to mean "Earth". Well, he didn't have the Noah's Arc to help him, but he was close. One of the names for Ireland happens to be Erin. And of course the Hill of Tara can be interpreted to mean Earth. Tara, like Terra, Tierra, etc.

Earth, Erde, Aarde, Eretz can be linked to Eridu. Think to Ardara, in Ireland...too.
In european southern languages, words like Terre, Tierra are simply reversed Ta-Erra => Erra-rTa, close to Urartu. Maybe original european names were Rta-Erra...? And from Erra to Erin (Erenn, Ereinn), it is a simple path too.

But at Tara, a sacred place from megalithic times, sun is in the equation. Ra is Sun, Ta is place. And if we consider now the famous Mount Ararat, another sacred place which you mentioned, you have A-Ra-Ra-Ta, is Ra-Ta an inverted Ta-Ra?
Hereunder a good explanation of Ararat as "Land of Creation".
Where is Mount Ararat located? What does Ararat mean?
My Guess is "A" means new, birth or rebirth, and here "Ta" is land instead of simply place. Ra is still the Sun.
Tara name is common in the world for names of gods, godesses, sacred places, rives, mountains, etc.
In Serbia, Tara mountain was dwelling of ancient God Tar. Mount Taraki in New Zealand was a sacred Maori volcano.
Wiki Tara
Tara cities names in India, for instance
Tara Buddhism female deity

At Tara, henges and circles are named Raths or Raiths. My guess, from other comparisons, is that the "i" or "y" sound often found in sacred places names comes from ancient word "illa", from which we have illustrious, illuminated, and latin lumen for light. It was the gods sky, with its sun and stars light. The mountains Illimani and Illampu in Bolivia, near Tiwanaku, are good examples of sacred places reaching the sky of Gods.
This opinion is reinforced by findings of Dr Stephen Oppenheimer, in his book "Eden in the East, The drowned Continent of south-east Asia" :
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In the myths of the Creation of the World from the peoples of Southeast Asia and Oceania, El is the Firmament, the divine sky. Exactly like El in semitic languages, giving Illuh or Illah (Bab-Illa-Nu, Gate of God). This ethnonym was pronounced Ilai in the Torajas of Indonesia and Ilu in the Samoa Islands

Illa has been often contracted in "Ya". So, to my understanding, at Hill of Tara, the henges names like Rath, and elsewhere Raith, make me think that initial name was Ra-Illa-Ta, place of divine sky and sun, which after following contractions became Rayata, Raita, then Raith.
From these names derived our modern ray, radius, irradiation. (always linked to the concept of circle, symbol of the sacred sun).

Michel Demaria (retired engineer, France)



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Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 2470 Tom M Culhane 16-Jun-17 15:56
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Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 615 Merrell 16-Jun-17 16:55
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 693 carolb 16-Jun-17 17:03
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 533 eyeofhorus33 16-Jun-17 16:39
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Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 546 AstralDruid 16-Jun-17 17:45
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 533 Merrell 16-Jun-17 19:23
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 494 eyeofhorus33 17-Jun-17 08:13
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 528 Susan Doris 17-Jun-17 14:02
Pattern on Europe Rewrites History 728 Tom M Culhane 13-Jun-17 19:38
Re: Pattern on Europe Rewrites History 623 PB Bytes 13-Jun-17 22:15
Can you "link" your article? 377 Itatw70s 13-Jun-17 23:30
Re: Pattern on Europe Rewrites History 469 Tom M Culhane 13-Jun-17 23:33
Re: Pattern on Europe Rewrites History 449 Itatw70s 13-Jun-17 23:35
Re: Pattern on Europe Rewrites History 433 carolb 14-Jun-17 00:13
Re: Pattern on Europe Rewrites History 425 carolb 14-Jun-17 00:29
Re: Pattern on Europe Rewrites History 496 Itatw70s 14-Jun-17 01:42
Re: Pattern on Europe Rewrites History 461 Itatw70s 16-Jun-17 01:08
Re: Pattern on Europe Rewrites History 472 AstralDruid 16-Jun-17 17:33
Re: Pattern on Europe Rewrites History 429 carolb 16-Jun-17 18:20
Mod Note > Duplicate Topic Merged 344 Dr. Troglodyte 16-Jun-17 18:43
Re: Pattern on Europe Rewrites History 395 Paulcmusik 21-Aug-17 13:14
My Research Findings Solve Riddle of Origin of Human Civilization 598 Tom M Culhane 16-Jun-17 05:24
Re: My Research Findings Solve Riddle of Origin of Human Civilization 474 Susan Doris 16-Jun-17 14:26
Mod Note > Triplicate Topic Merged 415 Dr. Troglodyte 16-Jun-17 18:56
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 425 M. J. Thomas 16-Jun-17 19:46
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 454 eyeofhorus33 17-Jun-17 08:08
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 414 M. J. Thomas 17-Jun-17 09:37
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 477 Tom M Culhane 18-Jun-17 14:05
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 413 carolb 18-Jun-17 15:14
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 807 Tom M Culhane 19-Jun-17 12:50
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 621 Tom M Culhane 23-Jun-17 18:06
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 375 Tom M Culhane 24-Jun-17 20:18
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 585 Notinham 24-Jun-17 21:10
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 400 Tom M Culhane 26-Jun-17 17:07
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 385 Notinham 26-Jun-17 17:20
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 683 Tom M Culhane 26-Jun-17 19:01
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 576 Tom M Culhane 03-Jul-17 20:01
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 396 Tom M Culhane 10-Jul-17 18:15
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 582 Tom M Culhane 11-Jul-17 03:37
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 349 Tom M Culhane 23-Jul-17 19:29
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 434 M. J. Thomas 23-Jul-17 21:32
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 426 Tom M Culhane 26-Jul-17 17:30
Noah's Arc? 378 Dr. Troglodyte 26-Jul-17 21:26
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 434 Tom M Culhane 27-Jul-17 03:17
Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole/Noah's Arc? 339 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Jul-17 00:16
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole/Noah's Arc? 449 Notinham 28-Jul-17 00:43
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole/Noah's Arc? 401 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Jul-17 20:05
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 326 Tom M Culhane 28-Jul-17 13:17
Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole/Noah's Arc? - Revised 398 Dr. Troglodyte 28-Jul-17 19:55
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole/Noah's Arc? - Revised 377 carolb 28-Jul-17 22:14
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 509 Tom M Culhane 29-Jul-17 01:00
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 100 Tom M Culhane 25-Apr-20 22:30
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 85 Tom M Culhane 01-May-20 23:48
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 83 Glass Jigsaw 02-May-20 12:37
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 65 Tom M Culhane 07-May-20 03:11
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 57 Tom M Culhane 15-May-20 04:20
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 51 Tom M Culhane 22-May-20 04:42
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 72 Tom M Culhane 24-May-20 02:38
Re: Grid Orients European Cities to Great Pyramid and North Pole 103 Mike D 17-May-20 10:29


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