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Warwick Wrote:
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> Origyptian Wrote:
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> > Warwick Wrote:
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> > > Origyptian Wrote:
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> > > > Warwick Wrote:
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> > > > > I can't imagine anyone arguing against two facts;
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. that the Roman were doers, who looked at
> > > > > obstacles as a source of inspiration
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. that they of all ancient people's WERE without
> > > > > peer at reverse engineering and adaption
> > > > >
> > > > > I offer no elaboration of these points at this
> > > > > time due to the fact that anyone arguing fir or
> > > > > against a Roman 'Baalbek' must already know my 2
> > > > > points...or they have no place in this discussion
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > warwick
> > > >
> > > > So, if anyone doesn't 'know your 2 points', or
> > > > dares to think that the Dynastic beat the Romans
> > > > in adaption prowess, or challenges the notion that
> > > > the Romans were "without peer at reverse
> > > > engineering", then you are decreeing that
> > > > we can't participate in this discussion?!
> > >
> > > What I am telling you is exactly what so many...
> >
> > "so many"? Like maybe three of you?
> >
> > > ...have been trying so hard to tell you for quite a while
> > > is simple;
> > >
> > > you cannot state that any group is/was not
> > > capable of a given achievement if you are
> > > not well acquainted with the facts concerning that
> > > group's capabilities and achievements.
> > >
> > > I am not here to conduct history lessons.
> > >
> > > I like to assume that anyone arguing against
> > > anything knows precisely what it is they are
> > > arguing against.
> >
> > Warwick, respectfully, you've shown zero knowledge
> > of any significant engineering principle that's
> > been discussed here in the context of the ancient
> > stonework. You're the last person to dictate what
> > background people should have before they can
> > participate in these discussions. Give us a break.
> > Please!
>
> I have posted at length concerning the properties
> of stone, the working of stone, the logistics of
> handling stone, and the observable pattern of
> development in AE architecture and statuary.
>
> I have also communicated my having studied
> Mechanical Engineering in College
>
> I have also communicated that I have considerable
> field experience with Limestone in particular.
>
> You have alluded to the unknown. performed by the
> unknown, at an unknown time, with powered
> technology that you have absolutely no evidence of.
>
> As to the Romans, I have in the past posted at
> length about Roman Military engineering.
>
> I have done brick work, harvested slate, and
> experiemented with stone sculpture.
>
> I am very used to working with what most call
> Primitive tools.
>
> So...do you agree or not with my 'simple facts'
> facts ( allowing for your qualifier re proof of
> provenance for the AE statuary) or not?
>
> Warwick

Warwick, I respect your experience, but it's not obvious how slate, brickwork, and sculpting equips you to understand -- any better than the rest of us -- the daunting nature of that massive construction and the technology required to overcome the natural forces that insert a massive amount of inertia against that effort every step of the way, especially concerning the Baalbek megaliths. It's certainly not clear how your "work with" relatively small scale stone projects translates to the task of planning, quarrying, shaping, transporting, lifting, and precision fitting many millions of multi-ton blocks of limestone and granite essentially without stop over a 200 year period in 3rd mill. BC Egypt in what was arguably the most massive construction project ever carried out in the history of mankind.

I don't understand how your experience doesn't make you feel any compulsion to see direct evidence that such an immense effort was even possible at that time, let alone actually happened. It takes a lot more than being inspired by obstacles, reverse engineering, and adapting the work of others, to be able to achieve that kind of work. And let's not forget to include the huge and complex infrastructure (both roadways and waterways along with transport vehicles) that needed to be planned, designed and constructed.

Have you shared your opinion about how it could be possible for Romans to create, shape, manipulate, transport, and lift those Baalbek megaliths, or to quarry dozens of 80 ton blocks of granite in Aswan, shape them to size with precision planes and squareness, transport them back and forth to the river, load them onto a ship (not to mention build a fleet of ships that can handle such loads), ship the cargo 600 miles to Giza, lift them and precision fit them into place, etc.? How about that pair of 750 ton solid granite Colossi of Memnon?

How did 3rd mill BC Egypt do the math to create those bizarre blocks in the AP?

What does your work with stone tell you was the purpose of the RCs, Antechamber, and the Granite Plugs?

What does your experience tell you is the likelihood that those pyramids were originally designed to be tombs vs...what?

Which brings me back to your point: how can you claim that your work with bricks, slate and sculpting qualifies you to participate in these discussions any more than other professionals here with equal or greater experience in industrial level engineering, heavy equipment, and construction project planning and implementation that not only requires large scale structural engineering but also complex logistics that depend heavily on what likely was a very advanced JIT supply line scheme.

How is believing whether Romans "looked at obstacles as a source of inspiration" relevant to assessing whether they had the necessary means to properly address the natural forces and complex logistic issues in order to make and move those 1600 ton blocks at Baalbek?

How did you derive the notion that the Romans were "without peer at reverse engineering and adaption", and how is that relevant to whether any of us are qualified to participate in a discussion about whether a civilization had the means to do this or that kind of large scale stone work?

To answer your question, no, I don't agree with your "simple facts". Respectfully, I think your 2 criteria are your own speculation and are irrelevant to making an assessment of whether a civilization is able to achieve such work. I think you are cutting short the true brilliance required to accomplish that work.

You asked, and I gave my opinion as respectfully as I could.

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Stuck in a time warp 309 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 170 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 259 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 153 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 249 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 243 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 153 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 284 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 323 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 380 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 289 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 151 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 202 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 303 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 134 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 339 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 357 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 402 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 171 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 342 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 401 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 286 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 326 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 217 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 261 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 230 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 237 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 240 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 245 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 142 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 187 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 264 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 238 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 186 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 238 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 351 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 147 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 197 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 289 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 214 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 129 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 159 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 199 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 136 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 234 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 134 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 162 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 216 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 150 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 329 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 152 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 295 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 264 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 208 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 235 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 312 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 136 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 224 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 227 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 349 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 224 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 152 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 217 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 312 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 323 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 204 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 137 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 196 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 158 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 202 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 196 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 172 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 249 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 232 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 176 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 284 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 281 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 206 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 225 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 191 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 230 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 274 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 389 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 196 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 271 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 269 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 207 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 210 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 149 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 274 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 220 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 143 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 284 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 136 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 147 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 164 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 313 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 146 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 208 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 221 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 248 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 315 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 187 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 226 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 279 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 269 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 169 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 289 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 165 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 210 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 134 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 218 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 219 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 170 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 131 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 223 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 251 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 185 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 279 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 278 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 200 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 295 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 300 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 121 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 253 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 287 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 204 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 283 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 309 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05