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> Of course, I've known about Pregnant Woman since I
> was a child.
And (presumably) like many others
> here, I accepted the traditional narrative that it
> was created during the Roman Empire.

Oh, dear. So its not enough that you knew about Baalbek before you got here a few years ago, but unlike 99% of the rest of the population in the late 1950's early 1960's, let alone today, not only "of course" did you even know Baalbek existed as a child, but also, "of course", knew of the even more obscure large block sitting in the quarry known as the "Stone of the Pregnant Woman"? Well, I knew about it when I was still in the womb doctor.

I am curious what black and white TV documentary you may have seen such things between episodes of Howdy Doody and the Addams Family? Was it the 1912 National Geographic article that you looked at the pictures of before you got to the African boobies in the back while waiting in the lobby of the doctors office for your mommy that day? Or what elementary school textbook would have exposed you to Baalbek, the Stone of the Pregnant Woman no less, or even the minutia of the Roman Empire for that matter? Apparently Fridays were porky pie day at your school cafeteria. And "of course" like so many other "children" you accepted the "traditional narrative" until...

> But only when
> the new excavations revealed what lies under the
> surface did it become all too apparent to
> many of us that the Romans didn't do
> that work.

Really? So until these "new excavations" were made public in late 2014, only until it was "revealed what lied under the surface", as if what was already known wasn't enough, only "then" did it become "all too apparent to many [note his use of italics to stress the point] of us that the Romans didn't do the work"?

Not only does this show how little you did know of Baalbek at the time, i.e. before you got here, but you think that "many of us" were as ignorant of such things as you, despite your knowing about the Stone of the Pregnant Woman for 50yrs, before some of us were even born, that it was only until the end of 2014 and these "new" discoveries that it became "apparent" to "most of us" they may have not been placed there by the Romans? If by "most many of us" you mean yourself, Jon, and Audrey, well, maybe you are right, but please do not impose your stupidity or inclusions on the actual "most of us" who have been at this long before your "revolution" began 2yrs ago.

Thanos:

2013:
"The Temple Mount blocks remind one of the blocks at Baalbek, obviously not built by the Romans either."

2013:
"The Romans, who did use cranes, did not build the platform wall at Baalbek nor is there any indication they could regardless."

2013:
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RE:Baalbek, what the primary source Adams is suggesting is that the builders constructed a platform wall 26' high using blocks upwards of 300 tons, presumably using the same method as they went, then buried the entire structure effectively raising the surrounding landscape to the wall height which would have had to include an extended gently sloping ramp leading to the site where eventually they perfectly placed the 800 ton blocks. Adams suggests that at least 6 winch/pulley combo machines manned by 144 men would have been required to move one block at a time.

So, the questions are:

A) Do Adam's numbers even work out? How many cubic feet of earth would have been required to keep raising the landscape along with the wall? Where was it taken from and where was it dumped when the project was completed? Is there even any evidence a massive area surrounding the wall was buried on purpose, not by sediment, and then cleared?

B) Is there any evidence the Romans, Greeks, or Phoneticians ever used this revolutionary system before or after and if so why isn't classical times littered with 800-1200 ton stones? Why is there no record of them using this system to move the Egyptian obelisks? Certainly it would have come in handy especially given if it can easily move 800 ton blocks, 250 ton obelisks would have been a snap. But it wasn't for the Romans now was it?

C) Why only in this one spot did the Romans supposedly do this when such opportunities would have been available to them throughout the known world? This system would have revolutionized Roman construction all over the Roman Empire but it did not and what methods they did use are well known which this is not included.

D) And given the egos of succeeding emperors, wouldn't the impetus be to use this revolutionary system to move the same if not even bigger and bigger blocks?

E) The Romans make no mention anywhere of how they built this wall nor that they even constructed it in the first place. Surely such a magnificent feat-unique in all the ancient world, surpassing even the AE whom they so greatly admired, would have warranted some sort of dedication or acknowledgement. They did it for every other great accomplishment, like moving the obelisks, but not this? Surely such a wonderous deed would have been celebrated throughout the Roman Empire and revolutionized how heavy objects were moved inspiring the moving of many others, but instead they are uncharacteristically mute. Nothing. If the Romans were responsible, which they were not, how could this be?

F) If it were the Romans, regardless of the size, why did they use such a unique precision and style for this one wall at this one place, identical to those found thousands of years earlier like in Egypt, then never duplicate it again in all of the Roman empire? They didn't even come close to duplicating it for even anything they built right on top of it let alone anywhere else.

I am not suggesting the alternative is ancient aliens, but what is clear to me regardless is that the foundations in question at Baalbek were around long before the Romans and comparable Romanesque technology and materials. And even though the Russians of the 1700/1800's were able to devise ingenious methods using manpower, they did have at their disposal the relatively modern materials of forged/cast metals to make the tracks, ball bearings, winches, pulleys, sculpting tools and the like something that the AE for example did not have nor did the builders of the foundation of Baalbek if placed in their rightful historical context.

And while the blocks making up the Trilithion weigh approximately 800 tons, the ones still at the quarry were in the 1000-1200 ton range which the builders were able to quarry, precision cut and move their position at the quarry which stands to reason they were more than capable of moving them to the construction site and placing them with the same precision as well. Where is there any parallel to this in Roman history let alone after what is found in Egypt? And another thing, so what if the Romans moved pre-existing 250 ton Egyptian obelisks, most of the work was already done for them. Show me one example where the Romans cut, quarried, and constructed with blocks of this size, not the few random pillars mind you, let alone the larger 800-1200 ton blocks? And this says nothing about the precision the Baalbek stones were laid which is not found anywhere in the Roman world either. This is called context.

Gladly, I at least do not belong to this "most many of us" you are reffering to.



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 19-Apr-17 01:17 by Thanos5150.

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Stuck in a time warp 398 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 239 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 333 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 262 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 323 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 311 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 231 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 350 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 396 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 514 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 389 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 234 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 316 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 388 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 200 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 424 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 430 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 471 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 233 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 417 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 516 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 409 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 488 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 297 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 322 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 297 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 312 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 314 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 328 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 231 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 268 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 351 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 351 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 265 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 330 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 495 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 246 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 271 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 393 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 280 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 207 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 244 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 280 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 213 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 377 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 208 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 256 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 277 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 240 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 460 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 220 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 377 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 356 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 317 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 324 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 412 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 230 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 335 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 349 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 484 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 303 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 251 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 292 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 392 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 403 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 292 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 221 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 267 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 256 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 294 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 286 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 255 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 313 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 292 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 244 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 387 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 373 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 295 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 334 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 280 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 294 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 358 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 566 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 272 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 398 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 372 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 301 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 305 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 230 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 336 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 299 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 209 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 408 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 192 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 216 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 235 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 390 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 212 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 283 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 320 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 310 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 393 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 277 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 295 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 357 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 358 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 244 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 411 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 268 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 289 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 205 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 287 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 308 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 259 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 218 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 320 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 335 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 257 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 361 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 366 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 269 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 379 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 400 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 205 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 329 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 360 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 265 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 388 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 426 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05