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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> ...
> Again, what evidence can you offer of the
> culture itself the AE adopted them from
> beyond just the monuments themselves?

Are you suggesting that those monuments do not represent an enormous amount of evidence of the capabilities of the culture that built them? First of all, I never said the Dynastics adopted those monuments, I said they adapted those monuments. Second, what other evidence do you expect?


> You deny the
> AE ability to craft hard stone, what I am getting
> at is according to you something like this would
> have to be evidence of one of the many cultures
> you envision occupied AE prior to the Dynastic
> Egyptians:
>

How many times will traditionalists try to use that stone as evidence of provenance of such stonework in the 3rd millennium BC? I've already mentioned many times that in my opinion, anyone with at least one functioning eye can see the vastly different craftsmanship that went into those chicken scratched graffiti glyphs on the base compared to the magnificent skill that went into the figures themselves. It's this circular reptition of the same point that makes me avoid addressing your points all over again, year after year. At this point it's better if we simply agree to disagree than waste more bandwidth covering the same debate, discussion after discussion.


> You believe this statue is tens of thousands of
> years old and from the LC and the writing was
> scrawled on there by AE squatters, right? I just
> want to be clear.

Not "is", but rather "could just as well be". Otherwise, yes, "clear".


> And according to you this early Dynastic stone
> vase, for example:
>
>
> Is tens of thousands if not millions of years old
> belonging to the LC, but these copper OK replicas,
> this metallurgy, was made by the AE because as you
> and others have made clear any non-stone objects
> would be gone by the Dynastic period because they
> are so old:
>

Not just any "stone", mainly those which for which no tools or methods have been identified for 3rd millennium Egypt. And those tens of thousands of stone vessels discovered in the basement of Step Pyramid add an interesting ingredient to further amplify that mystery. But that's a sidebar which I'm not focusing on. I'm focusing on the pyramids.


> I just want to be clear because the only cultural
> artifacts you offer are the great pyramids and
> associated megalithic temples, but if the AE could
> not construct with stone, having inherited it all
> from the LC, then by your definition all of the
> statues, i.e. people depicted, are in fact
> evidence of this culture representing the very
> faces of the LC tens of thousands if not millions
> of years ago.

Where is the evidence that such achievements were possible in 3rd millennium BC Egypt? Any artifacts of such tools? Any inscriptions describing or depicting such tools? Do the tombs of any architects, designers, builders, gang superivisors, etc. bring any of them to the afterlife? I'm certainly not the only one who's noticed that there indeed is a body of tools and documentation remaining behind from that era, but virtually nothing at all that speaks to their ability to achieve much of that stonework. Ther are far too many enigmas to ignore the disconnect.


> And what of Saqqara? By your definition the AE
> could not have made this as well which if so there
> is much culture to be had there. A few examples:
>
> Why was the cobra so important to the LC?
>
> Or, these bundled reed faux columns:
>
>
> Or the curious layout of the faux temples of a
> style, palace facade, that just so happened to
> have been emulated by the Mesopotamians nearly two
> thousand years before:
> [dts4h52y4acn7.cloudfront.net]
> [www.bernardsmith.eu]
>
> Inside the stepped pyramid we find even more
> evidence of LC culture including apparently writing:
> [s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com]
> [tejiendoelmundo.files.wordpress.com]
>
> This is culture. These things mean something,
> which according to you, by definition they must
> all belong to the LC in which you have taken it
> one step further to include that the AE were so
> primitive they could not even understand the
> pyramids were man-made until the Greeks told them.
> If they could not understand something was
> artificial then surely they could not make
> artificial things themselves let alone repair
> existing ones. To them, according to you, it was
> all just nature.

I don't understand your logic there. Why wouldn't they be able to add a block of stone where one is damaged or decayed in order to attempt to preserve the original condition? Especialily if they adapted those monuments into an expression of their own funerary context.


> So much LC culture around all set in glorious
> stone yet when asked to provide evidence of the LC
> culture all you can ever offer are the great
> pyramids, any large block, and their megalithic
> temples. Why is that? But if the LC were not
> responsible for these things then what does this
> say of the ability of the AE? Where are the tools
> used and detailed schematics to build this:
> [dts4h52y4acn7.cloudfront.net]
> And carve and write this:
> [s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com]
>
> Why did they not tell us how they did these things
> on their tomb walls and bury themselves with all
> the tools? Which if they are not there then this
> means they were made tens of thousands if not
> millions of years ago by an LC? My question to you
> doctor, is where does the LC end and the AE begin?

I tell you what, give me a few thousand investigators for a few centuries, just like orthodoxy has had. Then we'll see whether it's possible to arrive at a more realistic narrative than what orthodoxy has been able to concoct with a similarly immense effort.


> Are we looking at the faces of the LC themselves,
> artifacts made tens of thousands if not millions
> of years ago by possibly a non-human species or
> different species of human:
> [ka-perseus-images.s3.amazonaws.com]
> [www.almendron.com]
>
> Sure look human to me.
>
> To continue:
>
> "2. The Megalith culture with its engineering
> and technology that preceeded the Dynastics far
> enough back in time to allow for technological
> amnesia."

>
> So despite the fact you cannot offer any direct
> evidence of this culture's existence beyond a
> complete lack of evidence, you cite this otherwise
> non-existent culture as evidence in and of itself?
> This makes sense.
>
> Bah.

That's your characterization, not mine. In my opinion, the amount of evidence in stonework that's left behind by that more ancient culture is far more abundant than the evidence left behind by the Dynastics. This is why it's that much more of an enigma that we don't see any evidence of the tools and methods in the body of evidence left behind by the dynastics. The thing that they are arguably the most known for -- the highest volume contribution they've allegedly left behind as their legacy: the stonework itself -- ironically is virtually non-evidenced in the tools and methods that have been attributed to that era. That you don't consider that stonework to be that telling is your own opinion. I'm not arguing with your opinion, so why do you continue to argue with me about mine to the point of rekindling the same points over and over again?

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 253 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 02:39
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 233 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 08:09
Roman capabilities 208 Warwick 18-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Roman capabilities 212 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 16:04
Re: Roman capabilities 158 Warwick 18-Apr-17 18:04
Re: Roman capabilities 207 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 18:09
ahhhh. an attack. how droll 152 Warwick 18-Apr-17 20:25
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 210 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 21:27
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 89 Warwick 19-Apr-17 13:49
Stuck in a time warp 247 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 126 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 210 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 109 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 196 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 199 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 110 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 243 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 270 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 315 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 237 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 109 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 154 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 251 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 89 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 267 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 305 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 349 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 131 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 289 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 321 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 225 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 256 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 160 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 207 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 184 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 193 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 188 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 205 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 97 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 144 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 206 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 184 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 141 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 188 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 276 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 95 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 151 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 225 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 166 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 75 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 116 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 157 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 84 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 184 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 104 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 109 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 171 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 110 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 250 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 109 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 241 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 208 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 162 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 187 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 251 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 88 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 172 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 174 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 282 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 177 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 106 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 171 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 256 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 268 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 162 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 99 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 154 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 106 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 155 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 147 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 127 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 203 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 188 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 136 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 215 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 216 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 153 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 178 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 150 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 186 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 223 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 296 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 151 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 215 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 221 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 153 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 159 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 105 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 220 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 168 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 95 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 216 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 92 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 105 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 126 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 257 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 101 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 168 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 171 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 186 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 282 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 141 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 174 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 228 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 221 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 120 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 233 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 119 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 161 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 93 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 167 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 176 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 122 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 91 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 168 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 194 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 136 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 223 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 224 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 154 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 240 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 227 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 81 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 196 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 236 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 164 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 233 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
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