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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> ...
> Again, what evidence can you offer of the
> culture itself the AE adopted them from
> beyond just the monuments themselves?

Are you suggesting that those monuments do not represent an enormous amount of evidence of the capabilities of the culture that built them? First of all, I never said the Dynastics adopted those monuments, I said they adapted those monuments. Second, what other evidence do you expect?


> You deny the
> AE ability to craft hard stone, what I am getting
> at is according to you something like this would
> have to be evidence of one of the many cultures
> you envision occupied AE prior to the Dynastic
> Egyptians:
>

How many times will traditionalists try to use that stone as evidence of provenance of such stonework in the 3rd millennium BC? I've already mentioned many times that in my opinion, anyone with at least one functioning eye can see the vastly different craftsmanship that went into those chicken scratched graffiti glyphs on the base compared to the magnificent skill that went into the figures themselves. It's this circular reptition of the same point that makes me avoid addressing your points all over again, year after year. At this point it's better if we simply agree to disagree than waste more bandwidth covering the same debate, discussion after discussion.


> You believe this statue is tens of thousands of
> years old and from the LC and the writing was
> scrawled on there by AE squatters, right? I just
> want to be clear.

Not "is", but rather "could just as well be". Otherwise, yes, "clear".


> And according to you this early Dynastic stone
> vase, for example:
>
>
> Is tens of thousands if not millions of years old
> belonging to the LC, but these copper OK replicas,
> this metallurgy, was made by the AE because as you
> and others have made clear any non-stone objects
> would be gone by the Dynastic period because they
> are so old:
>

Not just any "stone", mainly those which for which no tools or methods have been identified for 3rd millennium Egypt. And those tens of thousands of stone vessels discovered in the basement of Step Pyramid add an interesting ingredient to further amplify that mystery. But that's a sidebar which I'm not focusing on. I'm focusing on the pyramids.


> I just want to be clear because the only cultural
> artifacts you offer are the great pyramids and
> associated megalithic temples, but if the AE could
> not construct with stone, having inherited it all
> from the LC, then by your definition all of the
> statues, i.e. people depicted, are in fact
> evidence of this culture representing the very
> faces of the LC tens of thousands if not millions
> of years ago.

Where is the evidence that such achievements were possible in 3rd millennium BC Egypt? Any artifacts of such tools? Any inscriptions describing or depicting such tools? Do the tombs of any architects, designers, builders, gang superivisors, etc. bring any of them to the afterlife? I'm certainly not the only one who's noticed that there indeed is a body of tools and documentation remaining behind from that era, but virtually nothing at all that speaks to their ability to achieve much of that stonework. Ther are far too many enigmas to ignore the disconnect.


> And what of Saqqara? By your definition the AE
> could not have made this as well which if so there
> is much culture to be had there. A few examples:
>
> Why was the cobra so important to the LC?
>
> Or, these bundled reed faux columns:
>
>
> Or the curious layout of the faux temples of a
> style, palace facade, that just so happened to
> have been emulated by the Mesopotamians nearly two
> thousand years before:
> [dts4h52y4acn7.cloudfront.net]
> [www.bernardsmith.eu]
>
> Inside the stepped pyramid we find even more
> evidence of LC culture including apparently writing:
> [s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com]
> [tejiendoelmundo.files.wordpress.com]
>
> This is culture. These things mean something,
> which according to you, by definition they must
> all belong to the LC in which you have taken it
> one step further to include that the AE were so
> primitive they could not even understand the
> pyramids were man-made until the Greeks told them.
> If they could not understand something was
> artificial then surely they could not make
> artificial things themselves let alone repair
> existing ones. To them, according to you, it was
> all just nature.

I don't understand your logic there. Why wouldn't they be able to add a block of stone where one is damaged or decayed in order to attempt to preserve the original condition? Especialily if they adapted those monuments into an expression of their own funerary context.


> So much LC culture around all set in glorious
> stone yet when asked to provide evidence of the LC
> culture all you can ever offer are the great
> pyramids, any large block, and their megalithic
> temples. Why is that? But if the LC were not
> responsible for these things then what does this
> say of the ability of the AE? Where are the tools
> used and detailed schematics to build this:
> [dts4h52y4acn7.cloudfront.net]
> And carve and write this:
> [s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com]
>
> Why did they not tell us how they did these things
> on their tomb walls and bury themselves with all
> the tools? Which if they are not there then this
> means they were made tens of thousands if not
> millions of years ago by an LC? My question to you
> doctor, is where does the LC end and the AE begin?

I tell you what, give me a few thousand investigators for a few centuries, just like orthodoxy has had. Then we'll see whether it's possible to arrive at a more realistic narrative than what orthodoxy has been able to concoct with a similarly immense effort.


> Are we looking at the faces of the LC themselves,
> artifacts made tens of thousands if not millions
> of years ago by possibly a non-human species or
> different species of human:
> [ka-perseus-images.s3.amazonaws.com]
> [www.almendron.com]
>
> Sure look human to me.
>
> To continue:
>
> "2. The Megalith culture with its engineering
> and technology that preceeded the Dynastics far
> enough back in time to allow for technological
> amnesia."

>
> So despite the fact you cannot offer any direct
> evidence of this culture's existence beyond a
> complete lack of evidence, you cite this otherwise
> non-existent culture as evidence in and of itself?
> This makes sense.
>
> Bah.

That's your characterization, not mine. In my opinion, the amount of evidence in stonework that's left behind by that more ancient culture is far more abundant than the evidence left behind by the Dynastics. This is why it's that much more of an enigma that we don't see any evidence of the tools and methods in the body of evidence left behind by the dynastics. The thing that they are arguably the most known for -- the highest volume contribution they've allegedly left behind as their legacy: the stonework itself -- ironically is virtually non-evidenced in the tools and methods that have been attributed to that era. That you don't consider that stonework to be that telling is your own opinion. I'm not arguing with your opinion, so why do you continue to argue with me about mine to the point of rekindling the same points over and over again?

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 398 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 02:39
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 363 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 08:09
Roman capabilities 352 Warwick 18-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Roman capabilities 344 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 16:04
Re: Roman capabilities 290 Warwick 18-Apr-17 18:04
Re: Roman capabilities 329 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 18:09
ahhhh. an attack. how droll 288 Warwick 18-Apr-17 20:25
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 324 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 21:27
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 188 Warwick 19-Apr-17 13:49
Stuck in a time warp 374 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 220 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 317 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 234 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 297 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 298 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 208 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 336 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 378 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 491 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 369 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 205 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 292 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 365 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 190 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 403 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 410 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 450 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 221 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 396 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 481 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 391 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 451 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 278 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 308 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 280 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 292 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 303 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 311 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 209 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 241 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 331 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 328 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 245 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 306 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 464 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 212 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 259 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 365 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 270 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 188 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 224 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 263 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 188 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 358 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 195 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 234 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 263 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 214 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 427 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 201 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 346 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 338 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 282 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 306 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 401 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 205 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 314 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 334 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 450 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 287 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 220 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 278 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 371 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 379 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 268 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 202 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 246 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 240 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 273 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 257 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 232 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 300 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 280 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 225 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 366 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 358 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 280 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 296 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 261 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 284 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 335 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 529 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 255 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 384 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 345 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 283 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 276 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 209 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 323 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 275 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 190 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 389 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 181 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 197 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 222 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 370 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 193 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 270 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 294 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 297 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 374 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 257 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 276 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 346 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 344 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 218 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 391 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 250 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 266 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 194 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 270 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 288 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 248 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 197 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 293 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 322 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 246 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 338 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 353 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 249 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 351 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 376 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 184 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 311 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 339 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 248 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 363 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions A