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Thanos5150 Wrote:
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> ...
> Again, what evidence can you offer of the
> culture itself the AE adopted them from
> beyond just the monuments themselves?

Are you suggesting that those monuments do not represent an enormous amount of evidence of the capabilities of the culture that built them? First of all, I never said the Dynastics adopted those monuments, I said they adapted those monuments. Second, what other evidence do you expect?


> You deny the
> AE ability to craft hard stone, what I am getting
> at is according to you something like this would
> have to be evidence of one of the many cultures
> you envision occupied AE prior to the Dynastic
> Egyptians:
>

How many times will traditionalists try to use that stone as evidence of provenance of such stonework in the 3rd millennium BC? I've already mentioned many times that in my opinion, anyone with at least one functioning eye can see the vastly different craftsmanship that went into those chicken scratched graffiti glyphs on the base compared to the magnificent skill that went into the figures themselves. It's this circular reptition of the same point that makes me avoid addressing your points all over again, year after year. At this point it's better if we simply agree to disagree than waste more bandwidth covering the same debate, discussion after discussion.


> You believe this statue is tens of thousands of
> years old and from the LC and the writing was
> scrawled on there by AE squatters, right? I just
> want to be clear.

Not "is", but rather "could just as well be". Otherwise, yes, "clear".


> And according to you this early Dynastic stone
> vase, for example:
>
>
> Is tens of thousands if not millions of years old
> belonging to the LC, but these copper OK replicas,
> this metallurgy, was made by the AE because as you
> and others have made clear any non-stone objects
> would be gone by the Dynastic period because they
> are so old:
>

Not just any "stone", mainly those which for which no tools or methods have been identified for 3rd millennium Egypt. And those tens of thousands of stone vessels discovered in the basement of Step Pyramid add an interesting ingredient to further amplify that mystery. But that's a sidebar which I'm not focusing on. I'm focusing on the pyramids.


> I just want to be clear because the only cultural
> artifacts you offer are the great pyramids and
> associated megalithic temples, but if the AE could
> not construct with stone, having inherited it all
> from the LC, then by your definition all of the
> statues, i.e. people depicted, are in fact
> evidence of this culture representing the very
> faces of the LC tens of thousands if not millions
> of years ago.

Where is the evidence that such achievements were possible in 3rd millennium BC Egypt? Any artifacts of such tools? Any inscriptions describing or depicting such tools? Do the tombs of any architects, designers, builders, gang superivisors, etc. bring any of them to the afterlife? I'm certainly not the only one who's noticed that there indeed is a body of tools and documentation remaining behind from that era, but virtually nothing at all that speaks to their ability to achieve much of that stonework. Ther are far too many enigmas to ignore the disconnect.


> And what of Saqqara? By your definition the AE
> could not have made this as well which if so there
> is much culture to be had there. A few examples:
>
> Why was the cobra so important to the LC?
>
> Or, these bundled reed faux columns:
>
>
> Or the curious layout of the faux temples of a
> style, palace facade, that just so happened to
> have been emulated by the Mesopotamians nearly two
> thousand years before:
> [dts4h52y4acn7.cloudfront.net]
> [www.bernardsmith.eu]
>
> Inside the stepped pyramid we find even more
> evidence of LC culture including apparently writing:
> [s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com]
> [tejiendoelmundo.files.wordpress.com]
>
> This is culture. These things mean something,
> which according to you, by definition they must
> all belong to the LC in which you have taken it
> one step further to include that the AE were so
> primitive they could not even understand the
> pyramids were man-made until the Greeks told them.
> If they could not understand something was
> artificial then surely they could not make
> artificial things themselves let alone repair
> existing ones. To them, according to you, it was
> all just nature.

I don't understand your logic there. Why wouldn't they be able to add a block of stone where one is damaged or decayed in order to attempt to preserve the original condition? Especialily if they adapted those monuments into an expression of their own funerary context.


> So much LC culture around all set in glorious
> stone yet when asked to provide evidence of the LC
> culture all you can ever offer are the great
> pyramids, any large block, and their megalithic
> temples. Why is that? But if the LC were not
> responsible for these things then what does this
> say of the ability of the AE? Where are the tools
> used and detailed schematics to build this:
> [dts4h52y4acn7.cloudfront.net]
> And carve and write this:
> [s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com]
>
> Why did they not tell us how they did these things
> on their tomb walls and bury themselves with all
> the tools? Which if they are not there then this
> means they were made tens of thousands if not
> millions of years ago by an LC? My question to you
> doctor, is where does the LC end and the AE begin?

I tell you what, give me a few thousand investigators for a few centuries, just like orthodoxy has had. Then we'll see whether it's possible to arrive at a more realistic narrative than what orthodoxy has been able to concoct with a similarly immense effort.


> Are we looking at the faces of the LC themselves,
> artifacts made tens of thousands if not millions
> of years ago by possibly a non-human species or
> different species of human:
> [ka-perseus-images.s3.amazonaws.com]
> [www.almendron.com]
>
> Sure look human to me.
>
> To continue:
>
> "2. The Megalith culture with its engineering
> and technology that preceeded the Dynastics far
> enough back in time to allow for technological
> amnesia."

>
> So despite the fact you cannot offer any direct
> evidence of this culture's existence beyond a
> complete lack of evidence, you cite this otherwise
> non-existent culture as evidence in and of itself?
> This makes sense.
>
> Bah.

That's your characterization, not mine. In my opinion, the amount of evidence in stonework that's left behind by that more ancient culture is far more abundant than the evidence left behind by the Dynastics. This is why it's that much more of an enigma that we don't see any evidence of the tools and methods in the body of evidence left behind by the dynastics. The thing that they are arguably the most known for -- the highest volume contribution they've allegedly left behind as their legacy: the stonework itself -- ironically is virtually non-evidenced in the tools and methods that have been attributed to that era. That you don't consider that stonework to be that telling is your own opinion. I'm not arguing with your opinion, so why do you continue to argue with me about mine to the point of rekindling the same points over and over again?

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 336 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 02:39
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 331 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 08:09
Roman capabilities 303 Warwick 18-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Roman capabilities 301 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 16:04
Re: Roman capabilities 243 Warwick 18-Apr-17 18:04
Re: Roman capabilities 290 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 18:09
ahhhh. an attack. how droll 235 Warwick 18-Apr-17 20:25
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 286 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 21:27
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 150 Warwick 19-Apr-17 13:49
Stuck in a time warp 335 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 190 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 288 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 184 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 270 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 261 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 173 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 304 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 348 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 427 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 316 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 173 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 220 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 329 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 156 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 373 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 378 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 419 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 188 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 365 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 431 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 347 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 375 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 242 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 283 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 250 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 257 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 270 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 272 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 172 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 210 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 296 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 277 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 215 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 260 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 395 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 178 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 224 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 326 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 235 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 155 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 192 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 217 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 152 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 279 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 171 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 193 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 240 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 176 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 366 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 171 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 313 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 286 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 239 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 266 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 351 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 161 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 259 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 281 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 397 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 258 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 175 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 239 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 340 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 345 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 229 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 163 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 216 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 193 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 236 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 216 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 190 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 271 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 252 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 195 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 319 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 318 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 236 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 252 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 220 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 250 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 296 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 453 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 214 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 327 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 299 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 231 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 236 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 178 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 287 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 245 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 161 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 332 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 154 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 168 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 189 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 340 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 164 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 239 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 251 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 268 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 337 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 209 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 240 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 296 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 298 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 184 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 332 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 211 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 237 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 159 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 237 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 250 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 199 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 155 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 256 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 275 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 204 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 308 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 305 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 219 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 314 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 335 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 148 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 277 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 307 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 220 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 307 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
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