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> Risible, ridiculous, nonsensical—a thoroughly
> bogus travesty of an argument.
>
> This is like saying that if you understand French,
> then you must understand Derrida and Deleuze—or,
> if you understand German, then you must understand
> Hegel and Heidegger—texts with which most native
> speakers would struggle, if they made the attempt
> at all. I know. I’ve tried it with them.

No. Nonsense.

I didn't say that if I don't understand it then it doesn't make sense.

What I said was there is no world where these two translations are in any way compatible;

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> Before the doors close again the gate to the path
> over the fire, beneath the holy ones as they grow dark
> As a falcon flies as a falcon flies, may Unis rise
> into this fire
> Beneath the holy ones as they grow dark.
> They make a path for Unis, Unis takes the path,

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> Pull back, Baboon’s penis! Open, [sky’s door!
> You sealed the door, open a path for Unis] on the
> blast of heat where the gods scoop water.
> Horus’s glide path--TWICE--will Unis glide on,
> in this blast of heat where the gods scoop water,

They are embarrassingly different yet you maintain that one or both is "understandable". In every single case the translations are so dissimilar as to be laughable. They don't even seem to have translated the same source in some cases. Yet you seem to be maintaining that only translators can possibly understand such highly complex religion and magic. I'm simply saying that if they really understood it then they'd know what the ankk was or the mks-sceptre... ...or something... ...anything at all.

They don't understand it because they translated this language in terms of the book of the dead. So your "cultural context" and your "language" are nothing more than gibberish translated in terms of the book of the dead.

Egyptologists only agree that this stuff shows highly superstitious people and admit it's only incantation. Yet they themselves choose to understand a whole culture based on a book of gibberish. This is Egyptological methodology. They take meaning from language 1000 years after the PT was written and force fit it. Then if anyone points out flaws they whip out a little cultural context.

> I see no reason at all to suppose that such
> specialised and esoteric material as the Pyramid
> Texts would be any easier for native speakers of
> ancient Egyptian.

I believe every single listener to these rituals read at ascension ceremonies understood the broad outline and every utterance. Of course there were subtleties that only the more intelligent or better educated would understand.

> Not exactly a student of Wittgenstein (or anything
> else much), are you, Sam⸮ He’d call stuff
> like this language going on holiday. The core of
> a language is the simple, everyday stuff.

No, I'm not. If you want a hoot then read "The Metaphysical Foundations of Modern Science". The shorter sentences come in at about 100 words and most words have as many syllables as a normal sentence.

> Allow me to remind you that your entire
> acquaintance with the Pyramid Texts is one of
> parasitical bellyaching.

Eh?

I am the world's only expert on the literal meaning of the PT. Of course when they said the king needed a boat to fly up and alight it's obvious someone could catch up to me in short order if ANYONE cared about the literal meaning of the PT.

> If you don’t like the translations, then go to
> source and read it. Can you? Would you even know
> where to begin?

I study the source a little bit but much less since they removed the hieroglyphic dictionaries from the web.

> Then produce your own translations and enlighten
> us all.

One of these days I'll publish a translation based on Mercer and the original author intent. There's not much interest now but this will change probably.

> Believe what stuff? What you’ve made up? I
> would not presume as your position requires you
> to
to tell people that they don’t understand
> their native language if they don’t understand
> the most difficult things written in it.

I'm not sure anyone really understands their native language. All modern languages are confused and are the perspective of thought. Stepping outside your own language might not be possible but doing it without understanding the very nature of any language is almost certainly impossible. I don't know.

I do know you don't understand that paragraph.

You believe the PT is understood because that's what you're told. You don't expect to understand every nuance because it's just superstitious gobbledty gook anyway. It's curious how believers dart back and forth from saying it's understood to saying it's just incantation. When I put two and two together it sounds just like they're saying they understand gibberish.

To each his own.

> I’ve already told you that I don’t share your
> primitive superstitions on what definition can
> achieve.

Oh, I never said that defining terms can establish communication. I said modern language is confused and usually impossible to establish communication without defining terms.

I'm funny that way. I'd hate to ever get in a conversation and then find out we were talking about two different things. I've seen people do this many times. I'm kindda adept that way.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 371 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 415 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 184 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 355 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 422 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 326 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 352 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 234 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 278 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 245 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 253 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 263 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 263 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 157 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 205 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 282 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 255 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 200 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 256 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 379 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 166 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 214 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 310 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 232 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 147 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 177 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 212 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 146 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 256 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 158 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 179 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 235 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 165 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 354 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 167 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 308 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 280 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 228 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 252 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 334 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 156 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 247 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 255 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 376 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 251 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 167 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 234 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 333 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 338 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 221 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 157 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 210 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 174 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 227 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 210 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 184 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 266 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 245 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 189 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 306 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 299 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 226 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 242 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 211 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 247 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 290 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 426 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 210 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 297 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 291 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 223 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 229 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 169 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 282 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 237 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 156 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 318 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 148 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 160 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 181 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 330 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 159 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 226 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 243 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 257 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 327 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 198 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 235 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 291 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 289 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 178 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 309 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 184 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 224 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 154 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 229 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 239 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 180 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 152 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 247 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 269 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 198 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 293 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 299 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 212 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 307 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 320 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 144 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 270 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 301 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 217 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 297 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 335 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 284 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 00:05