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> Risible, ridiculous, nonsensical—a thoroughly
> bogus travesty of an argument.
>
> This is like saying that if you understand French,
> then you must understand Derrida and Deleuze—or,
> if you understand German, then you must understand
> Hegel and Heidegger—texts with which most native
> speakers would struggle, if they made the attempt
> at all. I know. I’ve tried it with them.

No. Nonsense.

I didn't say that if I don't understand it then it doesn't make sense.

What I said was there is no world where these two translations are in any way compatible;

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> Before the doors close again the gate to the path
> over the fire, beneath the holy ones as they grow dark
> As a falcon flies as a falcon flies, may Unis rise
> into this fire
> Beneath the holy ones as they grow dark.
> They make a path for Unis, Unis takes the path,

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> Pull back, Baboon’s penis! Open, [sky’s door!
> You sealed the door, open a path for Unis] on the
> blast of heat where the gods scoop water.
> Horus’s glide path--TWICE--will Unis glide on,
> in this blast of heat where the gods scoop water,

They are embarrassingly different yet you maintain that one or both is "understandable". In every single case the translations are so dissimilar as to be laughable. They don't even seem to have translated the same source in some cases. Yet you seem to be maintaining that only translators can possibly understand such highly complex religion and magic. I'm simply saying that if they really understood it then they'd know what the ankk was or the mks-sceptre... ...or something... ...anything at all.

They don't understand it because they translated this language in terms of the book of the dead. So your "cultural context" and your "language" are nothing more than gibberish translated in terms of the book of the dead.

Egyptologists only agree that this stuff shows highly superstitious people and admit it's only incantation. Yet they themselves choose to understand a whole culture based on a book of gibberish. This is Egyptological methodology. They take meaning from language 1000 years after the PT was written and force fit it. Then if anyone points out flaws they whip out a little cultural context.

> I see no reason at all to suppose that such
> specialised and esoteric material as the Pyramid
> Texts would be any easier for native speakers of
> ancient Egyptian.

I believe every single listener to these rituals read at ascension ceremonies understood the broad outline and every utterance. Of course there were subtleties that only the more intelligent or better educated would understand.

> Not exactly a student of Wittgenstein (or anything
> else much), are you, Sam⸮ He’d call stuff
> like this language going on holiday. The core of
> a language is the simple, everyday stuff.

No, I'm not. If you want a hoot then read "The Metaphysical Foundations of Modern Science". The shorter sentences come in at about 100 words and most words have as many syllables as a normal sentence.

> Allow me to remind you that your entire
> acquaintance with the Pyramid Texts is one of
> parasitical bellyaching.

Eh?

I am the world's only expert on the literal meaning of the PT. Of course when they said the king needed a boat to fly up and alight it's obvious someone could catch up to me in short order if ANYONE cared about the literal meaning of the PT.

> If you don’t like the translations, then go to
> source and read it. Can you? Would you even know
> where to begin?

I study the source a little bit but much less since they removed the hieroglyphic dictionaries from the web.

> Then produce your own translations and enlighten
> us all.

One of these days I'll publish a translation based on Mercer and the original author intent. There's not much interest now but this will change probably.

> Believe what stuff? What you’ve made up? I
> would not presume as your position requires you
> to
to tell people that they don’t understand
> their native language if they don’t understand
> the most difficult things written in it.

I'm not sure anyone really understands their native language. All modern languages are confused and are the perspective of thought. Stepping outside your own language might not be possible but doing it without understanding the very nature of any language is almost certainly impossible. I don't know.

I do know you don't understand that paragraph.

You believe the PT is understood because that's what you're told. You don't expect to understand every nuance because it's just superstitious gobbledty gook anyway. It's curious how believers dart back and forth from saying it's understood to saying it's just incantation. When I put two and two together it sounds just like they're saying they understand gibberish.

To each his own.

> I’ve already told you that I don’t share your
> primitive superstitions on what definition can
> achieve.

Oh, I never said that defining terms can establish communication. I said modern language is confused and usually impossible to establish communication without defining terms.

I'm funny that way. I'd hate to ever get in a conversation and then find out we were talking about two different things. I've seen people do this many times. I'm kindda adept that way.

Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.

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Roman capabilities 163 Warwick 18-Apr-17 15:37
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ahhhh. an attack. how droll 119 Warwick 18-Apr-17 20:25
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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 310 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 109 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 234 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 256 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 186 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 206 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 131 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 162 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 145 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 132 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 135 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 159 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 66 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 114 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 169 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 135 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 102 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 150 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 221 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 63 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 115 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 185 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 122 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 51 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 86 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 122 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 57 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 152 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 77 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 78 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 136 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 69 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 194 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 77 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 204 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 161 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 125 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 150 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 203 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 58 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 140 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 148 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 224 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 135 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 72 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 139 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 208 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 216 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 121 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 72 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 127 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 75 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 121 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 104 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 96 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 163 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 154 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 101 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 180 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 169 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 130 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 141 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 121 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 150 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 176 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 250 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 117 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 163 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 184 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 104 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 125 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 73 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 175 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 131 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 69 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 165 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 68 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 76 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 100 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 205 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 67 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 141 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 144 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 153 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 242 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 109 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 131 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 183 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 180 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 94 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 191 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 85 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 122 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 57 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 132 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 142 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 81 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 56 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 146 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 167 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 116 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 182 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 177 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 130 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 203 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 191 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 67 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 145 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 188 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 124 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 189 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 199 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 181 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 00:05
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 158 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:15