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Corpuscles Wrote:
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> Hi Audrey
>
>
> Audrey Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks guys, those of you who think my post is
> > worth thinking about.
>
> Please let me also offer my belated praise, 'join
> the chorus', of appreciation for at least
> demonstrating considerable thought and effort,
> even though it is from a critical standpoint. You
> know I have offered such (albeit likely worthless)
> in the past.
>
>
> >
Quote
Warwick
> > Roth may be guilty of overworking the problem,
> > BUT, to suppose that her finite conclusions
> being
> > wrong has any bearing on how the Vyse cartouche
> > fits into all this is to propose a false
> > dichotomy
> >
> > "Overworking" is an understatement. It is the
> > orthos who have used Roth as a way to
> authenticate
> > the cartouche. If you see a "false dichotomy" I
> > assume you are intelligent enough to say where
> you
> > see it. If not, we can discard your
> "dichotomy".
>


Roth being wrong does not make Vyse wrong


> I also have some difficulty in reaching consensus
> with Roth's hypothesis regarding the meaning of
> the distribution of the hieratic (or if you prefer
> cursive hieroglyphs) in the chambers. She might be
> dead wrong, but at least she looks at what is
> there and tries to figure a rationale for it and
> it's significance. Rather than trying to
> speculate about what is not there!

>
> Her work is as far as I know hasn't specifically
> been used directly "as a way to authenticate
> the cartouche". I suspect you mean the
> famous CC one.
>
> >
> > You are not understanding the debate. Let's try
> a
> > mind experiment....
>
> I realise this was addressed to Warwick ,



It was?? I understand the debate perfectly.

She is saying that if Roth is wrong about her finite conclusions then she is also wrong in concluding that they are quarry marks/crew names in the first place.

Which is nonsense


excuse
> me for interjecting when time permits. It seems
> this thread is still mainly all about justifying
> grand forgery on a major scale?
>
> > Pretend Vyse never found markings in G1,
> pretend
> > they don't exist. Set aside your convictions
> (if
> > possible) and tell us how.... of all the
> > cartouches found on the plateau....anyone would
> > know which one belonged to the builder of G1?
> HOW
> > could one tell if a particular cartouche was
> > Cheops/Suphis?

>
> Audrey, I am aware this has been answered several
> times before directly to your questions.
>


> Do you think somehow that as of 1837 the Khufu
> cartouche was not known?
> If so, i.e. not known, how could Vyse
> possibly forge it?
>
> Does "Rosellini's 'I monumenti dell'Egitto e della
> Nubia' vol. 1 (1832)" ring any bells?
>
> However, does not mean, of itself, he built G1, or
> does it?
>
>
> >
> > Is it not true that in Vyse's time there was,
> and
> > had been for a very long time, a search for the
> > ones who built the great pyramids? Is it not
> true
> > that finding the name of the builders would
> unlock
> > the mysteries of the pyramids? Is it not true
> that
> > every author from Scaligerie to Vyse, including
> > Wilkinson & Champolliion & Kircher, had sought
> the
> > answer to the question of who built the
> pyramids?
> > Was this not a main quest at the time? Isn't it
> a
> > big key in establishing Egypt's chronology and
> > consequently the chronology for all of the
> ancient
> > east?
>
> True, they wanted to know who built them. However,
> these "alts" you talk of, seem obsessed with the
> notion that the CC cartouche is the main and
> seemingly only identifier. It definitely is not
> the sole "key establishing Egypt's chronology
> ..."
>
> >
> > Without this key, without Vyse's "discovery",
> they
> > would still be searching for the ones who built
> > the pyramids. Is it not this key that set the
> > stage for the understanding of Egypt's history?
>
>
> Serious question please consider (and answer) for
> your own benefit:
>
> Do you dispute all the links found between a
> family dynasty of kings queens relations of
> Sneferu, Khufu, (Djedefre), Khafre, Menkaure?
>
> Do you dispute that later AE' people wrote and
> considered great pyramids to belong to that
> dynasty?
> Whether they forged the inscriptions on statues
> etc or NOT is there evidence later dynastic AE
> thought they built them?
>
> If so, then how much did Vyse know about that in
> 1837?
>
>
>
>
> >
> > And if this key is the wrong key, if it is not
> in
> > fact the builder of G1, wouldn't they be back
> to
> > square one, still searching for it? And if the
> key
> > doesn't fit, then wouldn't ALL their
> conclusions
> > about the Giza plateau be incorrect since ALL
> is
> > based on this one key?

>
> Depending on your answers above, you "alts" might
> hope so, but regardless of that definitely
> NO!
>
>
> Some more questions that might help in the
> underlying point of your thread.
>
> Why would Vyse concoct many many forgeries (has to
> be all of the legible hieratic)in such a
> way that which opens up to the intriguing
> speculation about the meaning of the distribution
> of such which Roth attempts to resolve with her
> hypothesis?
>
> How could the A Alford now claimed by SC as his
> original guess 'at finding secret documents, talk
> of such distribution of such names! Didn't it have
> a story or some other juicy stuff to copy? Why
> didn't Vyse &Co think such all ought have for his
> purpose the more recognisable (at the time) Khufu
> cartouche or modify them to be so, if tht was his
> sole intent?
>
> Finally, how did he possibly know the Horus name
> could be written outside of a serekh, and/or
> otherwise not inclosed, in a cartouche? If in a
> "secret document" then how did he read it?
>
> Cheers


He either knew too much or not enough.

Considering the normal state of affairs here, I'm shocked that so many think the former, when they constantly accuse literally 1000's of academics of not knowing enough.


Warwick

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 281 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 02:39
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 261 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 08:09
Roman capabilities 236 Warwick 18-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Roman capabilities 232 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 16:04
Re: Roman capabilities 179 Warwick 18-Apr-17 18:04
Re: Roman capabilities 233 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 18:09
ahhhh. an attack. how droll 172 Warwick 18-Apr-17 20:25
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 237 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 21:27
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 104 Warwick 19-Apr-17 13:49
Stuck in a time warp 269 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 141 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 233 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 124 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 217 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 223 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 129 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 265 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 290 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 342 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 256 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 125 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 173 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 272 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 108 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 297 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 326 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 369 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 148 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 306 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 349 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 251 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 285 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 183 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 227 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 202 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 212 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 213 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 225 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 113 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 163 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 229 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 211 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 157 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 203 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 307 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 114 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 171 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 258 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 184 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 96 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 134 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 172 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 104 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 203 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 112 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 128 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 187 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 127 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 283 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 125 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 262 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 229 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 179 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 209 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 274 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 100 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 192 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 201 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 310 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 195 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 128 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 189 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 280 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 295 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 181 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 113 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 170 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 127 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 172 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 166 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 146 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 223 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 206 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 149 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 244 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 243 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 173 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 199 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 164 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 204 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 244 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 329 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 172 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 239 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 245 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 182 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 178 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 120 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 248 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 192 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 110 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 243 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 107 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 120 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 140 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 282 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 121 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 185 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 190 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 212 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 297 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 164 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 197 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 248 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 239 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 137 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 258 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 136 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 180 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 104 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 186 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 195 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 139 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 106 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 190 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 219 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 154 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 247 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 247 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 170 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 264 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 255 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 96 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 219 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 254 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 179 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 252 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 278 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05
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