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Corpuscles Wrote:
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> Hi Audrey
>
>
> Audrey Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks guys, those of you who think my post is
> > worth thinking about.
>
> Please let me also offer my belated praise, 'join
> the chorus', of appreciation for at least
> demonstrating considerable thought and effort,
> even though it is from a critical standpoint. You
> know I have offered such (albeit likely worthless)
> in the past.
>
>
> >
Quote
Warwick
> > Roth may be guilty of overworking the problem,
> > BUT, to suppose that her finite conclusions
> being
> > wrong has any bearing on how the Vyse cartouche
> > fits into all this is to propose a false
> > dichotomy
> >
> > "Overworking" is an understatement. It is the
> > orthos who have used Roth as a way to
> authenticate
> > the cartouche. If you see a "false dichotomy" I
> > assume you are intelligent enough to say where
> you
> > see it. If not, we can discard your
> "dichotomy".
>


Roth being wrong does not make Vyse wrong


> I also have some difficulty in reaching consensus
> with Roth's hypothesis regarding the meaning of
> the distribution of the hieratic (or if you prefer
> cursive hieroglyphs) in the chambers. She might be
> dead wrong, but at least she looks at what is
> there and tries to figure a rationale for it and
> it's significance. Rather than trying to
> speculate about what is not there!

>
> Her work is as far as I know hasn't specifically
> been used directly "as a way to authenticate
> the cartouche". I suspect you mean the
> famous CC one.
>
> >
> > You are not understanding the debate. Let's try
> a
> > mind experiment....
>
> I realise this was addressed to Warwick ,



It was?? I understand the debate perfectly.

She is saying that if Roth is wrong about her finite conclusions then she is also wrong in concluding that they are quarry marks/crew names in the first place.

Which is nonsense


excuse
> me for interjecting when time permits. It seems
> this thread is still mainly all about justifying
> grand forgery on a major scale?
>
> > Pretend Vyse never found markings in G1,
> pretend
> > they don't exist. Set aside your convictions
> (if
> > possible) and tell us how.... of all the
> > cartouches found on the plateau....anyone would
> > know which one belonged to the builder of G1?
> HOW
> > could one tell if a particular cartouche was
> > Cheops/Suphis?

>
> Audrey, I am aware this has been answered several
> times before directly to your questions.
>


> Do you think somehow that as of 1837 the Khufu
> cartouche was not known?
> If so, i.e. not known, how could Vyse
> possibly forge it?
>
> Does "Rosellini's 'I monumenti dell'Egitto e della
> Nubia' vol. 1 (1832)" ring any bells?
>
> However, does not mean, of itself, he built G1, or
> does it?
>
>
> >
> > Is it not true that in Vyse's time there was,
> and
> > had been for a very long time, a search for the
> > ones who built the great pyramids? Is it not
> true
> > that finding the name of the builders would
> unlock
> > the mysteries of the pyramids? Is it not true
> that
> > every author from Scaligerie to Vyse, including
> > Wilkinson & Champolliion & Kircher, had sought
> the
> > answer to the question of who built the
> pyramids?
> > Was this not a main quest at the time? Isn't it
> a
> > big key in establishing Egypt's chronology and
> > consequently the chronology for all of the
> ancient
> > east?
>
> True, they wanted to know who built them. However,
> these "alts" you talk of, seem obsessed with the
> notion that the CC cartouche is the main and
> seemingly only identifier. It definitely is not
> the sole "key establishing Egypt's chronology
> ..."
>
> >
> > Without this key, without Vyse's "discovery",
> they
> > would still be searching for the ones who built
> > the pyramids. Is it not this key that set the
> > stage for the understanding of Egypt's history?
>
>
> Serious question please consider (and answer) for
> your own benefit:
>
> Do you dispute all the links found between a
> family dynasty of kings queens relations of
> Sneferu, Khufu, (Djedefre), Khafre, Menkaure?
>
> Do you dispute that later AE' people wrote and
> considered great pyramids to belong to that
> dynasty?
> Whether they forged the inscriptions on statues
> etc or NOT is there evidence later dynastic AE
> thought they built them?
>
> If so, then how much did Vyse know about that in
> 1837?
>
>
>
>
> >
> > And if this key is the wrong key, if it is not
> in
> > fact the builder of G1, wouldn't they be back
> to
> > square one, still searching for it? And if the
> key
> > doesn't fit, then wouldn't ALL their
> conclusions
> > about the Giza plateau be incorrect since ALL
> is
> > based on this one key?

>
> Depending on your answers above, you "alts" might
> hope so, but regardless of that definitely
> NO!
>
>
> Some more questions that might help in the
> underlying point of your thread.
>
> Why would Vyse concoct many many forgeries (has to
> be all of the legible hieratic)in such a
> way that which opens up to the intriguing
> speculation about the meaning of the distribution
> of such which Roth attempts to resolve with her
> hypothesis?
>
> How could the A Alford now claimed by SC as his
> original guess 'at finding secret documents, talk
> of such distribution of such names! Didn't it have
> a story or some other juicy stuff to copy? Why
> didn't Vyse &Co think such all ought have for his
> purpose the more recognisable (at the time) Khufu
> cartouche or modify them to be so, if tht was his
> sole intent?
>
> Finally, how did he possibly know the Horus name
> could be written outside of a serekh, and/or
> otherwise not inclosed, in a cartouche? If in a
> "secret document" then how did he read it?
>
> Cheers


He either knew too much or not enough.

Considering the normal state of affairs here, I'm shocked that so many think the former, when they constantly accuse literally 1000's of academics of not knowing enough.


Warwick

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 366 Hanslune 20-Apr-17 02:39
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 333 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 08:09
Roman capabilities 307 Warwick 18-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Roman capabilities 308 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 16:04
Re: Roman capabilities 252 Warwick 18-Apr-17 18:04
Re: Roman capabilities 298 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 18:09
ahhhh. an attack. how droll 242 Warwick 18-Apr-17 20:25
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 291 Origyptian 18-Apr-17 21:27
Re: ahhhh. an attack. how droll 161 Warwick 19-Apr-17 13:49
Stuck in a time warp 337 Audrey 18-Apr-17 03:35
Re: Stuck in a time warp 193 Martin Stower 18-Apr-17 10:56
Re: Stuck in a time warp 290 Audrey 19-Apr-17 01:04
Re: Stuck in a time warp 197 Martin Stower 19-Apr-17 09:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 275 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 16:00
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 265 Origyptian 17-Apr-17 02:25
Experiment terminated 176 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 12:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 309 Jon Ellison 16-Apr-17 21:37
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 352 Merrell 16-Apr-17 22:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 444 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 03:59
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 327 Jon Ellison 17-Apr-17 08:07
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 178 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 15:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 241 Warwick 17-Apr-17 22:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 332 Jon Ellison 18-Apr-17 08:13
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 159 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 375 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 381 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 423 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 194 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 368 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 445 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 362 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 397 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 247 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 287 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 254 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 264 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 273 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 279 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 177 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 215 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 301 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 295 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 218 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 264 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 405 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 183 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 228 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 330 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 239 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 159 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 196 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 223 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 159 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 298 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 175 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 203 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 244 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 177 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 387 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 174 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 319 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 291 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 246 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 276 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 370 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 169 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 271 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 298 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 406 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 260 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 185 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 243 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 343 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 351 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 237 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 164 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 219 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 210 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 243 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 225 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 194 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 277 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 254 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 201 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 330 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 333 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 243 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 260 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 227 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 254 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 298 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 477 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 220 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 347 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 307 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 242 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 241 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 182 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 289 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 251 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 165 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 342 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 158 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 170 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 192 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 343 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 167 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 244 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 258 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 270 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 345 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 218 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 245 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 300 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 306 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 190 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 353 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 224 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 240 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 161 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 242 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 257 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 215 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 161 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 262 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 288 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 214 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 311 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 321 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 222 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 318 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 342 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 155 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 281 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 312 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 224 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 318 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 359 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05