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Hi Audrey


Audrey Wrote:
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> Thanks guys, those of you who think my post is
> worth thinking about.

Please let me also offer my belated praise, 'join the chorus', of appreciation for at least demonstrating considerable thought and effort, even though it is from a critical standpoint. You know I have offered such (albeit likely worthless) in the past.


>
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Warwick
> Roth may be guilty of overworking the problem,
> BUT, to suppose that her finite conclusions being
> wrong has any bearing on how the Vyse cartouche
> fits into all this is to propose a false
> dichotomy
>
> "Overworking" is an understatement. It is the
> orthos who have used Roth as a way to authenticate
> the cartouche. If you see a "false dichotomy" I
> assume you are intelligent enough to say where you
> see it. If not, we can discard your "dichotomy".

I also have some difficulty in reaching consensus with Roth's hypothesis regarding the meaning of the distribution of the hieratic (or if you prefer cursive hieroglyphs) in the chambers. She might be dead wrong, but at least she looks at what is there and tries to figure a rationale for it and it's significance. Rather than trying to speculate about what is not there!

Her work is as far as I know hasn't specifically been used directly "as a way to authenticate the cartouche". I suspect you mean the famous CC one.

>
> You are not understanding the debate. Let's try a
> mind experiment....

I realise this was addressed to Warwick , excuse me for interjecting when time permits. It seems this thread is still mainly all about justifying grand forgery on a major scale?

> Pretend Vyse never found markings in G1, pretend
> they don't exist. Set aside your convictions (if
> possible) and tell us how.... of all the
> cartouches found on the plateau....anyone would
> know which one belonged to the builder of G1? HOW
> could one tell if a particular cartouche was
> Cheops/Suphis?


Audrey, I am aware this has been answered several times before directly to your questions.

Do you think somehow that as of 1837 the Khufu cartouche was not known?
If so, i.e. not known, how could Vyse possibly forge it?

Does "Rosellini's 'I monumenti dell'Egitto e della Nubia' vol. 1 (1832)" ring any bells?

However, does not mean, of itself, he built G1, or does it?


>
> Is it not true that in Vyse's time there was, and
> had been for a very long time, a search for the
> ones who built the great pyramids? Is it not true
> that finding the name of the builders would unlock
> the mysteries of the pyramids? Is it not true that
> every author from Scaligerie to Vyse, including
> Wilkinson & Champolliion & Kircher, had sought the
> answer to the question of who built the pyramids?
> Was this not a main quest at the time? Isn't it a
> big key in establishing Egypt's chronology and
> consequently the chronology for all of the ancient
> east?

True, they wanted to know who built them. However, these "alts" you talk of, seem obsessed with the notion that the CC cartouche is the main and seemingly only identifier. It definitely is not the sole "key establishing Egypt's chronology ..."

>
> Without this key, without Vyse's "discovery", they
> would still be searching for the ones who built
> the pyramids. Is it not this key that set the
> stage for the understanding of Egypt's history?

Serious question please consider (and answer) for your own benefit:

Do you dispute all the links found between a family dynasty of kings queens relations of Sneferu, Khufu, (Djedefre), Khafre, Menkaure?

Do you dispute that later AE' people wrote and considered great pyramids to belong to that dynasty?
Whether they forged the inscriptions on statues etc or NOT is there evidence later dynastic AE thought they built them?

If so, then how much did Vyse know about that in 1837?




>
> And if this key is the wrong key, if it is not in
> fact the builder of G1, wouldn't they be back to
> square one, still searching for it? And if the key
> doesn't fit, then wouldn't ALL their conclusions
> about the Giza plateau be incorrect since ALL is
> based on this one key?


Depending on your answers above, you "alts" might hope so, but regardless of that definitely NO!


Some more questions that might help in the underlying point of your thread.

Why would Vyse concoct many many forgeries (has to be all of the legible hieratic)in such a way that which opens up to the intriguing speculation about the meaning of the distribution of such which Roth attempts to resolve with her hypothesis?

How could the A Alford now claimed by SC as his original guess 'at finding secret documents, talk of such distribution of such names! Didn't it have a story or some other juicy stuff to copy? Why didn't Vyse &Co think such all ought have for his purpose the more recognisable (at the time) Khufu cartouche or modify them to be so, if tht was his sole intent?

Finally, how did he possibly know the Horus name could be written outside of a serekh, and/or otherwise not inclosed, in a cartouche? If in a "secret document" then how did he read it?

Cheers

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 339 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 357 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 402 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 171 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 342 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 399 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 286 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 326 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 215 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 260 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 230 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 237 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 240 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 245 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 141 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 186 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 264 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 238 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 185 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 236 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 350 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 147 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 197 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 289 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 214 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 129 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 158 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 198 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 135 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 233 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 134 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 160 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 216 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 148 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 328 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 152 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 294 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 263 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 208 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 234 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 312 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 135 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 224 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 227 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 347 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 224 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 152 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 217 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 312 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 322 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 204 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 136 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 196 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 158 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 202 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 196 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 172 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 248 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 232 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 175 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 284 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 280 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 205 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 224 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 191 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 230 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 273 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 389 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 196 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 271 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 268 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 207 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 210 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 149 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 274 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 219 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 143 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 284 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 135 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 147 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 164 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 312 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 146 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 208 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 220 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 247 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 313 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 187 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 226 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 279 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 269 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 168 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 289 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 165 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 209 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 134 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 218 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 219 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 170 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 130 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 222 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 251 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 185 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 278 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 278 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 199 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 293 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 298 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 120 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 253 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 286 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 204 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 283 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 309 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 273 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 00:05