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Hi Audrey


Audrey Wrote:
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> Thanks guys, those of you who think my post is
> worth thinking about.

Please let me also offer my belated praise, 'join the chorus', of appreciation for at least demonstrating considerable thought and effort, even though it is from a critical standpoint. You know I have offered such (albeit likely worthless) in the past.


>
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Warwick
> Roth may be guilty of overworking the problem,
> BUT, to suppose that her finite conclusions being
> wrong has any bearing on how the Vyse cartouche
> fits into all this is to propose a false
> dichotomy
>
> "Overworking" is an understatement. It is the
> orthos who have used Roth as a way to authenticate
> the cartouche. If you see a "false dichotomy" I
> assume you are intelligent enough to say where you
> see it. If not, we can discard your "dichotomy".

I also have some difficulty in reaching consensus with Roth's hypothesis regarding the meaning of the distribution of the hieratic (or if you prefer cursive hieroglyphs) in the chambers. She might be dead wrong, but at least she looks at what is there and tries to figure a rationale for it and it's significance. Rather than trying to speculate about what is not there!

Her work is as far as I know hasn't specifically been used directly "as a way to authenticate the cartouche". I suspect you mean the famous CC one.

>
> You are not understanding the debate. Let's try a
> mind experiment....

I realise this was addressed to Warwick , excuse me for interjecting when time permits. It seems this thread is still mainly all about justifying grand forgery on a major scale?

> Pretend Vyse never found markings in G1, pretend
> they don't exist. Set aside your convictions (if
> possible) and tell us how.... of all the
> cartouches found on the plateau....anyone would
> know which one belonged to the builder of G1? HOW
> could one tell if a particular cartouche was
> Cheops/Suphis?


Audrey, I am aware this has been answered several times before directly to your questions.

Do you think somehow that as of 1837 the Khufu cartouche was not known?
If so, i.e. not known, how could Vyse possibly forge it?

Does "Rosellini's 'I monumenti dell'Egitto e della Nubia' vol. 1 (1832)" ring any bells?

However, does not mean, of itself, he built G1, or does it?


>
> Is it not true that in Vyse's time there was, and
> had been for a very long time, a search for the
> ones who built the great pyramids? Is it not true
> that finding the name of the builders would unlock
> the mysteries of the pyramids? Is it not true that
> every author from Scaligerie to Vyse, including
> Wilkinson & Champolliion & Kircher, had sought the
> answer to the question of who built the pyramids?
> Was this not a main quest at the time? Isn't it a
> big key in establishing Egypt's chronology and
> consequently the chronology for all of the ancient
> east?

True, they wanted to know who built them. However, these "alts" you talk of, seem obsessed with the notion that the CC cartouche is the main and seemingly only identifier. It definitely is not the sole "key establishing Egypt's chronology ..."

>
> Without this key, without Vyse's "discovery", they
> would still be searching for the ones who built
> the pyramids. Is it not this key that set the
> stage for the understanding of Egypt's history?

Serious question please consider (and answer) for your own benefit:

Do you dispute all the links found between a family dynasty of kings queens relations of Sneferu, Khufu, (Djedefre), Khafre, Menkaure?

Do you dispute that later AE' people wrote and considered great pyramids to belong to that dynasty?
Whether they forged the inscriptions on statues etc or NOT is there evidence later dynastic AE thought they built them?

If so, then how much did Vyse know about that in 1837?




>
> And if this key is the wrong key, if it is not in
> fact the builder of G1, wouldn't they be back to
> square one, still searching for it? And if the key
> doesn't fit, then wouldn't ALL their conclusions
> about the Giza plateau be incorrect since ALL is
> based on this one key?


Depending on your answers above, you "alts" might hope so, but regardless of that definitely NO!


Some more questions that might help in the underlying point of your thread.

Why would Vyse concoct many many forgeries (has to be all of the legible hieratic)in such a way that which opens up to the intriguing speculation about the meaning of the distribution of such which Roth attempts to resolve with her hypothesis?

How could the A Alford now claimed by SC as his original guess 'at finding secret documents, talk of such distribution of such names! Didn't it have a story or some other juicy stuff to copy? Why didn't Vyse &Co think such all ought have for his purpose the more recognisable (at the time) Khufu cartouche or modify them to be so, if tht was his sole intent?

Finally, how did he possibly know the Horus name could be written outside of a serekh, and/or otherwise not inclosed, in a cartouche? If in a "secret document" then how did he read it?

Cheers

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 370 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 376 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 418 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 187 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 362 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 427 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 338 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 367 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 239 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 282 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 248 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 255 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 268 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 271 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 170 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 208 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 295 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 272 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 211 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 258 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 387 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 174 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 222 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 323 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 234 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 152 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 190 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 216 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 151 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 272 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 169 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 188 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 239 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 170 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 364 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 170 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 311 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 285 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 236 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 259 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 346 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 160 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 256 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 272 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 389 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 256 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 171 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 238 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 337 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 343 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 228 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 159 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 213 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 188 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 233 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 214 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 189 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 270 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 250 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 194 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 314 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 314 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 233 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 250 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 218 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 249 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 294 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 442 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 213 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 315 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 296 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 229 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 234 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 176 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 284 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 244 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 160 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 327 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 151 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 165 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 188 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 336 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 162 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 233 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 247 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 265 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 334 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 207 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 239 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 294 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 295 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 182 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 324 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 202 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 236 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 156 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 233 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 245 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 193 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 154 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 254 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 274 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 202 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 305 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 304 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 217 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 312 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 330 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 146 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 276 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 305 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 219 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 305 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 344 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 286 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 00:05