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Hi Audrey


Audrey Wrote:
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> Thanks guys, those of you who think my post is
> worth thinking about.

Please let me also offer my belated praise, 'join the chorus', of appreciation for at least demonstrating considerable thought and effort, even though it is from a critical standpoint. You know I have offered such (albeit likely worthless) in the past.


>
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Warwick
> Roth may be guilty of overworking the problem,
> BUT, to suppose that her finite conclusions being
> wrong has any bearing on how the Vyse cartouche
> fits into all this is to propose a false
> dichotomy
>
> "Overworking" is an understatement. It is the
> orthos who have used Roth as a way to authenticate
> the cartouche. If you see a "false dichotomy" I
> assume you are intelligent enough to say where you
> see it. If not, we can discard your "dichotomy".

I also have some difficulty in reaching consensus with Roth's hypothesis regarding the meaning of the distribution of the hieratic (or if you prefer cursive hieroglyphs) in the chambers. She might be dead wrong, but at least she looks at what is there and tries to figure a rationale for it and it's significance. Rather than trying to speculate about what is not there!

Her work is as far as I know hasn't specifically been used directly "as a way to authenticate the cartouche". I suspect you mean the famous CC one.

>
> You are not understanding the debate. Let's try a
> mind experiment....

I realise this was addressed to Warwick , excuse me for interjecting when time permits. It seems this thread is still mainly all about justifying grand forgery on a major scale?

> Pretend Vyse never found markings in G1, pretend
> they don't exist. Set aside your convictions (if
> possible) and tell us how.... of all the
> cartouches found on the plateau....anyone would
> know which one belonged to the builder of G1? HOW
> could one tell if a particular cartouche was
> Cheops/Suphis?


Audrey, I am aware this has been answered several times before directly to your questions.

Do you think somehow that as of 1837 the Khufu cartouche was not known?
If so, i.e. not known, how could Vyse possibly forge it?

Does "Rosellini's 'I monumenti dell'Egitto e della Nubia' vol. 1 (1832)" ring any bells?

However, does not mean, of itself, he built G1, or does it?


>
> Is it not true that in Vyse's time there was, and
> had been for a very long time, a search for the
> ones who built the great pyramids? Is it not true
> that finding the name of the builders would unlock
> the mysteries of the pyramids? Is it not true that
> every author from Scaligerie to Vyse, including
> Wilkinson & Champolliion & Kircher, had sought the
> answer to the question of who built the pyramids?
> Was this not a main quest at the time? Isn't it a
> big key in establishing Egypt's chronology and
> consequently the chronology for all of the ancient
> east?

True, they wanted to know who built them. However, these "alts" you talk of, seem obsessed with the notion that the CC cartouche is the main and seemingly only identifier. It definitely is not the sole "key establishing Egypt's chronology ..."

>
> Without this key, without Vyse's "discovery", they
> would still be searching for the ones who built
> the pyramids. Is it not this key that set the
> stage for the understanding of Egypt's history?

Serious question please consider (and answer) for your own benefit:

Do you dispute all the links found between a family dynasty of kings queens relations of Sneferu, Khufu, (Djedefre), Khafre, Menkaure?

Do you dispute that later AE' people wrote and considered great pyramids to belong to that dynasty?
Whether they forged the inscriptions on statues etc or NOT is there evidence later dynastic AE thought they built them?

If so, then how much did Vyse know about that in 1837?




>
> And if this key is the wrong key, if it is not in
> fact the builder of G1, wouldn't they be back to
> square one, still searching for it? And if the key
> doesn't fit, then wouldn't ALL their conclusions
> about the Giza plateau be incorrect since ALL is
> based on this one key?


Depending on your answers above, you "alts" might hope so, but regardless of that definitely NO!


Some more questions that might help in the underlying point of your thread.

Why would Vyse concoct many many forgeries (has to be all of the legible hieratic)in such a way that which opens up to the intriguing speculation about the meaning of the distribution of such which Roth attempts to resolve with her hypothesis?

How could the A Alford now claimed by SC as his original guess 'at finding secret documents, talk of such distribution of such names! Didn't it have a story or some other juicy stuff to copy? Why didn't Vyse &Co think such all ought have for his purpose the more recognisable (at the time) Khufu cartouche or modify them to be so, if tht was his sole intent?

Finally, how did he possibly know the Horus name could be written outside of a serekh, and/or otherwise not inclosed, in a cartouche? If in a "secret document" then how did he read it?

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Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 283 Thanos5150 18-Apr-17 18:10
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 507 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 00:41
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 522 sfbey 19-Apr-17 14:30
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 557 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 15:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 320 cladking 19-Apr-17 15:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 493 sfbey 19-Apr-17 15:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 617 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:22
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 483 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 17:35
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 581 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 22:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 365 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:15
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 401 Origyptian 19-Apr-17 23:21
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 375 Warwick 20-Apr-17 16:57
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 390 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 17:18
The Pyramids were NOT a secret 395 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:50
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 403 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:27
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 314 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:11
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 344 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 19:29
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 433 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 22:15
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 428 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:37
Re: The Pyramids were NOT a secret 340 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 08:26
Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 393 Jon Ellison 21-Apr-17 09:20
Mathematical bases of ancient Egyptian architecture and graphic art 571 sfbey 21-Apr-17 14:19
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 312 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:30
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 355 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 19:37
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 501 Warwick 22-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 371 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:06
Re: Flat, Oblique, Isometric, Single Point Linear, Two Point Linear 279 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 333 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 18:20
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 357 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 298 sfbey 20-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 462 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:16
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 284 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:31
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 352 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 17:52
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 350 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 307 Martin Stower 20-Apr-17 19:34
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 540 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 23:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 323 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:19
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 489 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 19:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 479 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 21:47
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 412 Thanos5150 19-Apr-17 22:33
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 416 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:17
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 487 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 17:57
Principles of Egyptian Art 321 sfbey 20-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 418 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 18:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 440 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:28
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 573 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:24
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 374 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 20:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 328 Origyptian 20-Apr-17 21:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 374 Thanos5150 20-Apr-17 23:55
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 485 R Avry Wilson 21-Apr-17 01:32
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 513 Audrey 21-Apr-17 03:02
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 384 Warwick 21-Apr-17 06:38
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 312 Origyptian 21-Apr-17 04:56
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 348 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:36
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 333 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 06:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 371 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 06:44
The willfully blind do not see 378 Warwick 21-Apr-17 07:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 338 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 16:27
Re: The willfully blind do not see 395 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:07
Re: The willfully blind do not see 365 Thanos5150 21-Apr-17 18:12
Re: The willfully blind do not see 334 eyeofhorus33 21-Apr-17 21:15
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 467 Audrey 22-Apr-17 02:29
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 520 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 05:23
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 388 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:13
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 416 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 09:22
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 354 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 376 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 10:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 454 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 11:42
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 677 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 14:02
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 356 cladking 22-Apr-17 14:45
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 504 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:05
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 444 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 15:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 375 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 15:20
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 405 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 15:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 328 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:07
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 405 Jon Ellison 22-Apr-17 16:56
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 373 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 17:33
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 291 R Avry Wilson 22-Apr-17 19:38
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 498 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:46
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 296 cladking 22-Apr-17 19:54
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 315 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:26
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 311 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:17
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 476 Audrey 22-Apr-17 20:36
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 297 cladking 22-Apr-17 21:21
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 357 Origyptian 22-Apr-17 13:51
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 407 Thanos5150 22-Apr-17 16:45
How this is relevant 392 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:51
Re: How this is relevant 466 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 02:09
Re: How this is relevant 362 Warwick 23-Apr-17 15:43
Re: The willfully ignorant do not learn 370 Warwick 22-Apr-17 16:00
Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 443 Corpuscles 22-Apr-17 21:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 446 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 03:39
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 320 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 07:19
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 497 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 13:51
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 351 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 14:38
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 365 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 15:03
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 305 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 22:14
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 363 Thanos5150 23-Apr-17 15:50
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 387 Origyptian 23-Apr-17 16:18
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 331 Martin Stower 23-Apr-17 12:58
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 307 Warwick 23-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Direct questions to self appointed "alt' spokeswoman 401 Corpuscles 23-Apr-17 21:44
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 409 Corpuscles 21-Apr-17 07:12
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 341 Warwick 21-Apr-17 17:43
Rabbits . . . 480 Martin Stower 21-Apr-17 10:04
Re: Rabbits . . . 495 Merrell 21-Apr-17 12:48
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 353 Warwick 21-Apr-17 18:01
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 458 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 20:45
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 484 Audrey 21-Apr-17 01:08
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 283 Jon Ellison 20-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 405 Warwick 19-Apr-17 17:43
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 469 Jon Ellison 19-Apr-17 18:40
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 356 Warwick 20-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 476 Corpuscles 17-Apr-17 00:04
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 505 Thanos5150 17-Apr-17 02:05
Re: Your Assumptions Are Showing... 454 Martin Stower 17-Apr-17 00:05