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Racho Wrote:
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> that the markings on the cave walls/ceilings are
> remarkably similar to those demonstrated to have
> resulted from modern boring machines in the vid?

Do you think these people had modern boring machines:


These are made in raised relief which the chisel marks, and "modern boring machine" marks, conform to, not the other way around.

> Take a hardened chisel one day and find a
> rock...try to recreate. It won't happen.

This is a modern quarry in Italy. Note the long tool marks to the right of the worker:

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At some modern quarries, however, more traditional methods of quarrying can still be seen. At the peperino tuff quarries near Marino, in the Alban Hills south-east of Rome, blocks are still extracted with specially-designed long versions of the point. The quarryman uses this tool to carve narrow separation trenches along the side and rear of the desired block.[16] The block is then split from the bedrock using numerous small flat wedges, or sometimes a bundle of point chisels, hammered into the stone along its base.[17] The block is then pulled off the quarry face with a rope down to a point where it can be loaded for transport.[18]
Here.

Hammers, wedges, chisels.

> I've read many of your posts over the years and am
> surprised that there aren't a few questions raised
> after viewing this stuff. It's not as if they are
> removing large quantities of rock by way of
> explosives - as evidenced by the temples in India.
> chipping this away is your final answer then?

Longyou caves:



As said so many time before, clearly demonstrated in both pictures and text, these same chisel marks are found all over the world wherever stone is quarried no different in ancient times than today.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 25-Apr-17 21:08 by Thanos5150.

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Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 3368 Racho 02-Apr-17 18:38
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 925 Fsbirdhouse 02-Apr-17 20:05
Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 833 Racho 04-Apr-17 14:02
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 819 Fsbirdhouse 04-Apr-17 14:51
If on purpose... 387 Racho 14-Apr-17 05:01
Re: If on purpose... 436 Origyptian 14-Apr-17 05:32
Re: Whoever operated this saw (2:30 min mark)...made a mistake 699 Origyptian 07-Apr-17 13:28
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 693 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 22:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 462 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 16:59
Re: B 4 : ) 657 Thunderbird 05-Apr-17 05:22
Re: B 4 : ) 642 Warwick 07-Apr-17 17:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 704 SandyJesse 07-Apr-17 01:30
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 790 Warwick 07-Apr-17 18:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 887 Jon Ellison 08-Apr-17 10:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 580 Warwick 08-Apr-17 17:57
if I carried out a test... 661 Racho 09-Apr-17 02:15
Re: if I carried out a test... 606 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 08:44
I did check it out :) 516 Racho 25-Apr-17 05:59
Re: I did check it out :) 414 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 14:22
Don't even need to stop to think on this... 394 Racho 25-Apr-17 15:37
Re: Don't even need to stop to think on this... 463 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 17:20
I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 398 Racho 25-Apr-17 18:07
Re: I believe you are a copper/bronze tool proponent 485 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 19:49
Would you agree... 447 Racho 25-Apr-17 20:29
Re: Would you agree... 491 Thanos5150 25-Apr-17 21:07
Re: Would you agree... 470 Origyptian 25-Apr-17 22:54
...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 363 Racho 15-Oct-17 05:46
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 299 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 14:26
precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 373 Racho 15-Oct-17 16:49
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 339 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:20
Re: precision cut at 7:08 min mark...interesting photo angle I haven't seen before 348 Jon Ellison 15-Oct-17 19:35
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 352 Origyptian 16-Oct-17 03:27
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 367 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 07:58
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 330 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 09:19
Re: ...just a lot of similarities at the 36 second mark and super telltale machine markings at 9:30 min mark 621 Jon Ellison 16-Oct-17 11:03
an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 134 Racho 20-Dec-19 20:04
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 142 Martin Stower 20-Dec-19 23:47
? 121 Racho 21-Dec-19 01:25
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 134 Open mind 21-Dec-19 02:03
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 135 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 04:19
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 141 Open mind 21-Dec-19 05:07
Re: an ancient quarry in France...same markings on side of a 'cliff' 174 Thanos5150 21-Dec-19 16:25
Re: Would you agree... 672 Corpuscles 25-Apr-17 23:56
Re: if I carried out a test... 468 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:39
Re: if I carried out a test... 522 Fsbirdhouse 09-Apr-17 22:34
Re: if I carried out a test... 425 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 23:20
could not have been 477 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:34
Re: could not have been 479 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:18
Re: could not have been 520 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:29
Re: could not have been 499 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 17:59
Re: could not have been 468 Warwick 10-Apr-17 18:48
Re: could not have been 431 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:18
Re: could not have been 446 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:34
Re: could not have been 483 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 19:55
Re: could not have been 431 Warwick 11-Apr-17 17:29
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 457 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:13
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 564 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 481 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 16:56
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 472 Warwick 09-Apr-17 17:21
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 549 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:00
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 455 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 516 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 18:22
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 501 Warwick 09-Apr-17 18:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 473 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:02
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 537 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:41
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 435 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 18:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 474 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:03
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 458 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:17
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 491 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:48
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 591 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 20:33
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 453 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 533 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 561 Thanos5150 09-Apr-17 23:24
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 476 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 04:42
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 484 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 08:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 505 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:16
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 463 Thanos5150 10-Apr-17 15:25
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 435 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 494 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 14:44
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 466 Warwick 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 453 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:54
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 439 Warwick 10-Apr-17 16:01
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 496 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:23
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 470 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:06
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 473 Jon Ellison 10-Apr-17 16:11
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 453 Warwick 10-Apr-17 17:23
I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 610 Racho 08-Apr-17 16:54
Re: I've come to recognize that I was wrong all along 604 Warwick 08-Apr-17 18:23
Oranges and apples... 525 Racho 09-Apr-17 00:39
Re: Oranges and apples... 500 Warwick 09-Apr-17 15:59
Re: In plain sight 521 Thunderbird 10-Apr-17 19:53
It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 529 Racho 14-Apr-17 06:53
Re: It is in plain sight...or plane sight ;) 572 Thunderbird 15-Apr-17 01:31
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 482 Archae Solenhofen 09-Apr-17 16:47
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 478 Warwick 09-Apr-17 16:52
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 465 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 480 Warwick 09-Apr-17 19:53
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 460 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:09
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 563 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 19:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 556 Jon Ellison 09-Apr-17 19:59
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 467 Origyptian 09-Apr-17 20:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 486 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 15:26
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 477 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 15:46
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 524 Fsbirdhouse 10-Apr-17 18:45
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 488 Eddie Larry 10-Apr-17 18:49
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 485 Origyptian 10-Apr-17 18:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 481 Warwick 10-Apr-17 19:18
unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 445 Racho 11-Apr-17 06:22
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 562 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 09:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 358 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:32
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 508 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:38
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 347 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:11
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 460 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 14:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 463 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 14:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 432 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:27
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 441 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 15:53
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 503 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 15:55
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 501 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 16:35
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 305 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 16:49
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 348 Origyptian 11-Apr-17 19:54
once the mistake... 428 Racho 12-Apr-17 00:03
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 542 Thunderbird 12-Apr-17 04:20
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 377 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 13:14
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 510 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 17:31
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 433 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:17
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 424 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:26
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 502 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 425 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 14:43
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 439 Archae Solenhofen 11-Apr-17 18:41
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 484 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 18:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 381 Fsbirdhouse 11-Apr-17 18:48
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 468 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:00
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 387 Warwick 11-Apr-17 19:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 464 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 19:59
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 379 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 462 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:34
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 490 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:29
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 373 Warwick 11-Apr-17 20:37
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 455 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 20:45
Re: unless the cuts were being made very, very quickly... 353 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:24
science and technology...where minds come to meet 406 Racho 11-Apr-17 20:46
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 406 Jon Ellison 11-Apr-17 21:19
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 672 Archae Solenhofen 12-Apr-17 15:01
Re: science and technology...where minds come to meet 435 Warwick 12-Apr-17 17:52
43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 454 Racho 12-Apr-17 20:20
Re: 43 second mark ...anyone care to take a crack at which tools were used? 550 Origyptian 12-Apr-17 21:34
and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 578 Racho 12-Apr-17 22:54
Re: and just after 30:30 min mark..china cave - chisels did this? 457 Warwick 13-Apr-17 17:15
taking sides...I suppose so but 478 Racho 14-Apr-17 04:18
beating the dead horse... 700 Racho 20-Apr-17 06:50
Re: Carved all this out with copper tools? Hell, I'll give em hardened steel and still scratch my head 633 Notinham 11-Apr-17 01:43


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